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Trump's New York Tax Returns Now Available to Congress Under New Law

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler has said the New York law would make getting the returns “a little easier,” but under the law only the chairmen of the tax-writing committees could request the state returns.
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So will they or won't they?
 
tres borrachos said:
Good question. Who knows? This Congress is mystifying.
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They've lost a lot of credibility with their own base. From the bits that I've seen they want to hold teethless hearings into perpetuity.
 
Winston said:
Not sure. I really do think Nancy Pelosi is half a Trumper herself. She will protect him as much as she can.
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She knows that what's good for the goose...
 
If we can see Trump's, we can see everybody's.

Maxine Waters is going to freak out. So is Pelosi, Kamala, Schumer, and a bunch more.
 
Erod said:
If we can see Trump's, we can see everybody's.

Maxine Waters is going to freak out. So is Pelosi, Kamala, Schumer, and a bunch more.
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Good point. There are likely a few dems who have skeleton in their closet too. A reason they may avoid pursuing trump and setting a precedent. For them it's probably just better that he maintains a certain level bad press until the election to help the opposition' chances.
 
Winston said:
They've lost a lot of credibility with their own base. From the bits that I've seen they want to hold teethless hearings into perpetuity.
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Meanwhile, accomplishing nearly zilch.

And voters are going to be asking lots of questions at townhalls next year....like "Why should I vote for you again when all you did was hold ****ing hearings?"
 
Winston said:
Not sure. I really do think Nancy Pelosi is half a Trumper herself. She will protect him as much as she can.
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i'm not her biggest fan in general, but i think that she's making the right call when it comes to impeachment. the best bet is to first focus on winning the presidential election while kicking as many cultists out of congress as possible. there will be plenty of time for prosecution after he can no longer hide behind the power of the office. however, i do support pushing to have evidence released. the more he obstructs, the worse it will potentially be for him later.
 
Helix said:
i'm not her biggest fan in general, but i think that she's making the right call when it comes to impeachment. the best bet is to first focus on winning the presidential election while kicking as many cultists out of congress as possible. there will be plenty of time for prosecution after he can no longer hide behind the power of the office. however, i do support pushing to have evidence released. the more he obstructs, the worse it will potentially be for him later.
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I vehemently disagree.

How many nonsense hearings did the GOP pursue under Obama? 547? If the shoe were on the other foot, and the GOP was running the Congress, with a Democrat in office, can you imagine the bloodbath they would've spearheaded by now, regardless of who controlled the Senate.
 
Winston said:
I vehemently disagree.

How many nonsense hearings did the GOP pursue under Obama? 547? If the shoe were on the other foot, and the GOP was running the Congress, with a Democrat in office, can you imagine the bloodbath they would've spearheaded by now, regardless of who controlled the Senate.
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sure, they would have tried and failed to impeach him. it probably would have cost them, as well. i'd rather see Tweety defeated first, so i support the best path to do that. it's going to mean that more Democrats are going to have to show up and probably vote for a meh candidate that they don't one hundred percent agree with. if they run someone better than last time and improve their get out the vote efforts, they have a chance. i don't see any likely path to a pre-2020 impeachment and conviction, however.
 
Helix said:
sure, they would have tried and failed to impeach him. it probably would have cost them, as well. i'd rather see Tweety defeated first, so i support the best path to do that. it's going to mean that more Democrats are going to have to show up and probably vote for a meh candidate that they don't one hundred percent agree with. if they run someone better than last time and improve their get out the vote efforts, they have a chance. i don't see any likely path to a pre-2020 impeachment and conviction, however.
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I disagree.

You seen the video where Kevin McCarthy admitted that they succeeded in dropping Clinton's poll #'s with their bogus hearings? That's the purpose of impeachment in this case. The GOP know how to make mountains out of molehills and cause a ruckus, to keep their base fired up. I wish the Democrats would not cower in fear of what the GOP might do or say about them, or, about how their actions would play politically. The GOP never made those wimpy calculations and they were rewarded, electorally for it.
 
Winston said:
I disagree.

You seen the video where Kevin McCarthy admitted that they succeeded in dropping Clinton's poll #'s with their bogus hearings? That's the purpose of impeachment in this case. The GOP know how to make mountains out of molehills and cause a ruckus, to keep their base fired up. I wish the Democrats would not cower in fear of what the GOP might do or say about them, or, about how their actions would play politically. The GOP never made those wimpy calculations and they were rewarded, electorally for it.
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the GOP is now Trumpcult, and no matter what he has done, 90+ percent of them will vote for him. the Democrats need to focus on getting Democrats, independents, and those who couldn't be bothered to vote last time out in higher numbers. i don't see a failed impeachment attempt accomplishing that goal.
 
Helix said:
the GOP is now Trumpcult, and no matter what he has done, 90+ percent of them will vote for him. the Democrats need to focus on getting Democrats, independents, and those who couldn't be bothered to vote last time out in higher numbers. i don't see a failed impeachment attempt accomplishing that goal.
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I definitely see it challenging the narrative that Trump was 100% exonerated, as is currently believed by the lay-person. And that will help bring his poll #'s down which are already approaching 50% as of this week.

How could the Dems **** it up any more? Trump's #'s are going up. Do you think they would hit the 50's for the first time ever if Democrats held impeachment hearings? Because, I definitely do not, the evidence is clear and damning.

I guess, we have Mueller's testimony, that is still on correct?
 
Winston said:
I definitely see it challenging the narrative that Trump was 100% exonerated, as is currently believed by the lay-person. And that will help bring his poll #'s down which are already approaching 50% as of this week.

How could the Dems **** it up any more? Trump's #'s are going up. Do you think they would hit the 50's for the first time ever if Democrats held impeachment hearings? Because, I definitely do not, the evidence is clear and damning.

I guess, we have Mueller's testimony, that is still on correct?
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Slip it in... :lamo
 
Winston said:
I definitely see it challenging the narrative that Trump was 100% exonerated, as is currently believed by the lay-person. And that will help bring his poll #'s down which are already approaching 50% as of this week.

How could the Dems **** it up any more? Trump's #'s are going up. Do you think they would hit the 50's for the first time ever if Democrats held impeachment hearings? Because, I definitely do not, the evidence is clear and damning.

I guess, we have Mueller's testimony, that is still on correct?
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i don't see much coming out of Mueller's congressional testimony. cultists and the willfully uninformed aren't going to be swayed by a failed impeachment attempt. i suppose an argument could be made that a defeat like that might at least motivate the Democratic base, but i doubt that it will motivate Democrats and independents more than it will motivate cultists. i still see winning as the best first step. the way to that, IMO, is good candidates, good strategy, and a great platform.
 
Winston said:
Not sure. I really do think Nancy Pelosi is half a Trumper herself. She will protect him as much as she can.
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She definitely has a vested interest in the status quo and a history of having really flexible convictions.
 
Erod said:
If we can see Trump's, we can see everybody's.

Maxine Waters is going to freak out. So is Pelosi, Kamala, Schumer, and a bunch more.
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No, because the NY law only applies to Trump and a few select staffers/cabinet members.

That's what's known as a bill of attainder.

This ****'s going to be great!...lol
 
BlueTex said:
What would be the basis of the lawsuit?


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The part where it specifically forbids bills of attainder. Do you know what a bill of attainder is, without googling? Be honest.
 
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