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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The world sees the USA as s joke these days, because of Trump and the insane GOP.
    Likely true.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Winnie demoted Halifax from Foreign Secretary to Ambassador to the US. He had said "Churchill lies with every word that comes out of his mouth, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying.” Halifax wrote a year later "I disdain bowing to a nevueax riche cripple, inept and blustery, a bully boy, a liar and reprobate, an amoral excuse for a man, but remain quiet for the war effort," in reference to FDR.

    Halifax had attempted to broker a treaty between Germany and Britain after Dunkirk, using Italy as the negotiator. Didn't gain acceptance.
    Hi! Thank you for the historic look back. I'm not sure what it means as far as the thread topic goes other than such things have happened in the past.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    Hi! Thank you for the historic look back. I'm not sure what it means as far as the thread topic goes other than such things have happened in the past.

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    Comparing Churchill with Trump is a stretch. One was a brilliant man, the other is not.
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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    inept ✔

    insecure ✔

    incompetent ✔

    dysfunctional ✔

    unethical ✔

    malignant narcissist ✔


    We got that. No surprises. So what was the secret part?








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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The world sees the USA as s joke these days, because of Trump and the insane GOP.
    Damn funny joke I must say. After Trump we're going to run out of political comedy. Tim Apple, Oranges, etc.. those mumbled crazy moments, it's hard even imagine what's happening in Trump's head. For me most fun is how he's bragging all the time, especially about himself "I'm very stable genius" - to talk like that you need to be truly stupid, seriously backwards. Trumpanzees think that Trump is genius because he told so?

    I enjoy watching this circus, it's something really different and can't remember anything like it in our history so far. Trump is unique phenomenon, next level delusional individual.
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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadinho View Post
    Comparing Churchill with Trump is a stretch. One was a brilliant man, the other is not.
    Then again Churchill has a lot of baggage, especially with racism.
    Only interested in serious debate.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnFox View Post
    Damn funny joke I must say. After Trump we're going to run out of political comedy. Tim Apple, Oranges, etc.. those mumbled crazy moments, it's hard even imagine what's happening in Trump's head. For me most fun is how he's bragging all the time, especially about himself "I'm very stable genius" - to talk like that you need to be truly stupid, seriously backwards. Trumpanzees think that Trump is genius because he told so?

    I enjoy watching this circus, it's something really different and can't remember anything like it in our history so far. Trump is unique phenomenon, next level delusional individual.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    Hi! Thank you for the historic look back. I'm not sure what it means as far as the thread topic goes other than such things have happened in the past.

    Regards.
    No specific correlation, only that history can judge differently than those living the experience and witnessing the words of anyone. 50 or 100 years from now, Trump may be viewed as heroic, a disaster, or inconsequential. None of us, not alive then, will ever know.

    Both Churchill and FDR made their errors, issued decisions that led to millions of deaths, hardships for many, earned the virulent enmity of the their enemies, and had enemies for no other reason that they existed. They still have their detractors, but are mostly remembered well. Both esteem and disrespect are like gossamer on the winds of time.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Winnie demoted Halifax from Foreign Secretary to Ambassador to the US. He had said "Churchill lies with every word that comes out of his mouth, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying.” Halifax wrote a year later "I disdain bowing to a nevueax riche cripple, inept and blustery, a bully boy, a liar and reprobate, an amoral excuse for a man, but remain quiet for the war effort," in reference to FDR.

    Halifax had attempted to broker a treaty between Germany and Britain after Dunkirk, using Italy as the negotiator. Didn't gain acceptance.
    And your point is.....what? Trump isn't a tenth of the man either FDR or Churchill were.

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    Re: Cables from UK's Ambassador to the US blast Trump as 'inept,' 'incompetent'

    The ineptitude is the point. That's why he was voted into office.

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