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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    0/10 projection attempt. Try harder next time.
    Okay, I will. Do any of you democrats stop to think about what we're arguing about? You want a standing President to break the law and allow an endless flow of immigrants to be given immediate citizenship. Because Trump refuses to break the law, you then call him racist and then stage protests because our President won't do this insane thing.

    Now take a step back and ponder this bizarre behavior by the dems . I can't believe this is even an issue. No, Trump is not going to ignore our immigration laws, and suggesting he is a racist simply because he wants to go by the book only shows how juvenile and out of touch the party has become.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Okay, I will. Do any of you democrats stop to think about what we're arguing about? You want a standing President to break the law and allow an endless flow of immigrants to be given immediate citizenship. Because Trump refuses to break the law, you then call him racist and then stage protests because our President won't do this insane thing.

    Now take a step back and ponder this bizarre behavior by the dems . I can't believe this is even an issue. No, Trump is not going to ignore our immigration laws, and suggesting he is a racist simply because he wants to go by the book only shows how juvenile and out of touch the party has become.
    Yea, none of that is accurate. No one coming here gets immediate citizenship and no one is arguing they should. Refugees also have the legal right to apply for asylum.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    ..and as long as I can remember, just like any other country in the world, the USA has a process. You have to wait in line like everybody else. Do you know any country where you can show up at the border and demand immediate citizenship and they say "right this way sir we have your papers right here"? They knew before coming here that it doesn't work that way but they're so "out there" they come anyway. Why should the Trump administration cater to these idiots and be expected to ignore the ages-old process that EVERYBODY knows is the proper way to enter a country and apply for citizenship? And why should such a blatant disregard of the US immigration laws be rewarded with luxurious club med treatment. Let's not forget that they can leave anytime they want. If the "conditions" are so bad why don't they leave and come back later and apply like everybody else?

    But the thing is most them are entering the country legally through the asylum process. They're not illegal immigrants, they're asylum seekers and they're being held in dehumanizing and unsanitary conditions for weeks if not months and it didn't used to be like that. It's not the asylum seekers fault, it's Trump's zero tolerance immigration policy that causing all this human suffering and for no other reason than to help Trump appease his base. One really has to wonder what kind of people his base are if they can condone and support this kind of atrocity.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But the thing is most them are entering the country legally through the asylum process. They're not illegal immigrants, they're asylum seekers and they're being held in dehumanizing and unsanitary conditions for weeks if not months and it didn't used to be like that. It's not the asylum seekers fault, it's Trump's zero tolerance immigration policy that causing all this human suffering and for no other reason than to help Trump appease his base. One really has to wonder what kind of people his base are if they can condone and support this kind of atrocity.
    There was a time when the US would sanction and rebuke other countries for treating asylum seekers at their borders like this, for violating human rights. Now WE are one of those countries. Sad. And ironic.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

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    There was a time when the US would sanction and rebuke other countries for treating asylum seekers at their borders like this, for violating human rights. Now WE are one of those countries. Sad. And ironic.
    Yup, Americans have lost credibility in the human rights arena. It is sad. The effect will be felt for generations to come.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Okay, I will. Do any of you democrats stop to think about what we're arguing about? You want a standing President to break the law and allow an endless flow of immigrants to be given immediate citizenship. Because Trump refuses to break the law, you then call him racist and then stage protests because our President won't do this insane thing.

    Now take a step back and ponder this bizarre behavior by the dems . I can't believe this is even an issue. No, Trump is not going to ignore our immigration laws, and suggesting he is a racist simply because he wants to go by the book only shows how juvenile and out of touch the party has become.
    You're still conflating citizenship applications with asylum applications, on top of spouting bull**** that no Democrat is arguing for; even amnesty isn't blanket citizenship, and that's a contested issue on the left in and of itself. Try actually understanding the issue before opening your mouth, would you? Thanks.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

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    Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions | Fox News

    See this is typical Democrat, look at the Tweets. If they sit with them in a cell and talk, then they are one of them. It's like always, symbolism over substance. She won't vote to help them, but will gladly do a photo-op at the border, and then sit on the concrete with them; followed by criticism of the people who are actually trying to help them. You don't have to join them in the cell to know they need food, and you certainly don't need to join them, to help the CBP personnel who are actually working for the American people.............and have been begging for support. I'll bet the dumb bitch still thinks it's a manufactured crisis. All she's done is piss off the CBP and make unsubstantiated allegations about them.
    Problem: why vote for a bill the president has promised to veto?

    Second problem: Trump vetoes darn near anything that has no funding for his wall. In so many of the bills vetoed by Trump or killed in Congress due to his threat to do so we could have done the following: increase pay/recruitment/training/new equipment for ICE and the Border Patrol to do their jobs more effectively. We could have upgraded any number of facilities that house illegals that we catch. We could dramatically increase the number of judges to hear their cases more quickly...which would prevent illegals from disappearing into the US when they are released and told to wait up to two years for a court date...with the possible added benefits of sending more back across the border.

    But noooooo.....if there's no wall funding, Trump will just veto it.

    Look, I'm not a big AOC fan for the most part. But before you call her bitch, perhaps you should call the president out for not doing his job on the issue.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    No. That is a problem for the Repubs to resolve. They're the ones that paved the pathway for an outright bigot to ascend to the highest office in the land. It would not have been possible without their complicity. Trump is just the most visible symptom of a disease that was permeating it's way through GOP well before Trump and his birtherism ever arrived on the scene.
    You've got the wrong topic. Please see #119.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Okay, I will. Do any of you democrats stop to think about what we're arguing about?
    What a stupid question. We already figured out the existence of fascism in you people's arguments long ago.

    You want a standing President to break the law
    Of course not. That's why I want tRump out of office.

    and allow an endless flow of immigrants to be given immediate citizenship.
    Why do you like to lie?

    Because Trump refuses to break the law,


    you then call him racist and then stage protests because our President won't do this insane thing.
    Try to see if you can match tRump's anti-brown-immigrant policies to the ten stages of genocide. Denial is not an acceptable answer.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yup, Americans have lost credibility in the human rights arena. It is sad. The effect will be felt for generations to come.
    Most Americans and the rest of the world are aware that this entire thing is a fake narrative that the dems and the MSM are pushing unsuccessfully. The only ones who are buying it are the die hard democratic followers who are unwilling to consider that they are being duped and are victims of mass fraud.

    The dems and MSM are the only ones who are saying that Trump is the "worst President we've ever had". The rest of us look at the numbers and the growth and record-breaking highs and realize these are lies because the facts on paper are a tangible testimony to this. The dems and MSM are the only ones who say he is racist. The rest of the world read the reports of his "racist tweet" and I'm still trying to figure out how his tweet is "racist". He said they came from other countries. That's racist?

    So, the blind democratic followers are the only ones who are being fooled. The rest of the world is not for one second. The blind democratic followers might realize it only after the votes are in and they see how much of a minority they've become. This will be the end of the democratic party and their blatant corruption. We're witnessing their self destruction and it is amazing to see how dumb they are, or rather how dumb they think we are.
    There are none so blind as those who choose not to see....

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