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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    No, several women in detention told the Congresswoman that this happened. Which is what she stated, and was corroborated by other government officials.
    This does not look corroborated at all:

    "Congress members met a detained woman who told them that CBP agents suggested she drink from a toilet if she was thirsty, said New York’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Judy Chu, a Congresswoman from California:

    Immigration activists explained that the woman might have been referring to a common immigration detention set up, where a water fountain is attached to the top of a toilet."

    Border Patrol told detained woman to drink from toilets, Congress members say — Quartz

    And that doesn't even get us into the language difference and how that can lead to misunderstandings...

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This does not look corroborated at all:

    "Congress members met a detained woman who told them that CBP agents suggested she drink from a toilet if she was thirsty, said New York’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Judy Chu, a Congresswoman from California:

    Immigration activists explained that the woman might have been referring to a common immigration detention set up, where a water fountain is attached to the top of a toilet."

    Border Patrol told detained woman to drink from toilets, Congress members say — Quartz

    And that doesn't even get us into the language difference and how that can lead to misunderstandings...
    You keep moving the goal posts. You claimed AOC was lying, claiming to have heard an officer tell a woman to drink from a toilet. I disputed that, and said that a woman told AOC that had happened. That is what is corroborated. That she told AOC that. Whether or not the woman was confused is another matter. AOC reported what she was told, and others supported her.

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    You keep moving the goal posts. You claimed AOC was lying, claiming to have heard an officer tell a woman to drink from a toilet. I disputed that, and said that a woman told AOC that had happened. That is what is corroborated. That she told AOC that. Whether or not the woman was confused is another matter. AOC reported what she was told, and others supported her.
    AOC not only reported what she was told but she in fact insisted it happened. That is completely reckless for a sitting member of congress to do. Its OK to have the allegation investigated but its another to insist it happened before a proper investigation.
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    AOC not only reported what she was told but she in fact insisted it happened. That is completely reckless for a sitting member of congress to do. Its OK to have the allegation investigated but its another to insist it happened before a proper investigation.
    Why would it be reckless for her to insist it happened when the previous poster supplied photos of the toilet/fountain, and a description of them as filthy?

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    AOC not only reported what she was told but she in fact insisted it happened. That is completely reckless for a sitting member of congress to do. Its OK to have the allegation investigated but its another to insist it happened before a proper investigation.
    Why do you Congress should hide the fact that American Concentration Camps are used to incarcerate brown skinned children in filthy conditions?

    I've noticed that many conservatives are dead set against keeping Jews in Concentration Camps, but defend keeping brown skinned people in them. Why is that?

    From the conservative/libertarian Cato Institute:

    Are CBP’s Filthy and Inhumane Immigrant Detention Camps Necessary?

    ...Infamously, the Department of Justice is defending these conditions by arguing that a “safe and sanitary” requirement does not require sleep, toothbrushes, or soap for children...
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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    You keep moving the goal posts. You claimed AOC was lying, claiming to have heard an officer tell a woman to drink from a toilet. I disputed that, and said that a woman told AOC that had happened. That is what is corroborated. That she told AOC that. Whether or not the woman was confused is another matter. AOC reported what she was told, and others supported her.
    ... no, I am claiming that AOC is manipulating things purposely for politically reasons...

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Why do you Congress should hide the fact that American Concentration Camps are used to incarcerate brown skinned children in filthy conditions?

    I've noticed that many conservatives are dead set against keeping Jews in Concentration Camps, but defend keeping brown skinned people in them. Why is that?

    From the conservative/libertarian Cato Institute:

    Are CBP’s Filthy and Inhumane Immigrant Detention Camps Necessary?

    ...Infamously, the Department of Justice is defending these conditions by arguing that a “safe and sanitary” requirement does not require sleep, toothbrushes, or soap for children...
    Your race baiting is pathetic and stupid...

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    The fact is, brown-skinned people, as opposed to the visa overstays that now comprise the majority of illegal alien arrivals, are being incarcerated in record numbers in filthy condition than before with the highest percentage of family separation ever that all could have been avoided without the $4.5B that the Dems caved-in to. Trump supporters then complain of racists being race-baited and that AOC is lying, hypocritical and reckless in her response that is documented fact in the face of Trumpís continuous vomit flow of documented lies, hypocrisy and racist, bellicose attacks of misogyny and xenophobia.

    Trump supporters must understand that what is being done to the innocent at the border is being done by Trump and the Trumpicans (there are no longer any Republicans) to please them. That knowing migrant suffering must therefor leave the Trumpsters quite pleased and they need to take ownership of what they revel in.

    On the downside, Trump merely stepped in front of a decades-long MAWA movement that cut right through spineless Democrats who are all we have left in politics to defend the American democracy that Trump, Putin and others wish to destroy in favor of an oligarchy ruled by, in Trumps case, a kleptocrat (narcissistocrat?).

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Stopped reading right there. Try hard to understand how bad that comment of yours was. Try very hard.

    Oh, and fix your grammar if you want to be taken seriously.
    Is a typical democrat, then, not the pathetic display Americans have to put up with day in and day out? Every day we have to hear about how Trump should be impeached for keeping his word and achieving record-breaking successes across the board? For enforcing immigration laws that he didn't write? They have been in place for a long time yet he's racist for following them.

    Never before have we seen a party behave so childish and anti-american. They are aggressively advocating breaking the law without considering the welfare of LEGAL American citizens FIRST. How do you think that looks? How should we define a "typical" democrat?
    There are none so blind as those who choose not to see....

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    Re: Ocasio-Cortez defiant in face of criticism for opposing border $$ bill while decrying conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    No, you actually don't.

    Actually he does.

    You have people pointing and laughing at your ... claims.

    Of course he does. Racists hate it when someone defends a person with brown skin. Particularly if it's a woman. They lose their **** over AOC on a weekly basis.
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