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Trump still wants tanks displayed at July 4th celebration

Tangmo said:
Only crackpots believe the Democratic party "really does hate this country."
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I wouldn't say "hate" in the true sense of the word, but they are certainly ashamed to have been lucky enough to be born here....
 
j-mac said:
Oh the dread....Someone who want's to put us first...Terrible isn't it?
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Our country is founded on putting principles first.
 
ecofarm said:
Our country is founded on putting principles first.
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Principles that you libs won't get the chance to control for a long, long time if y'all keep acting like you have been.
 
j-mac said:
Principles that you libs won't get the chance to control for a long, long time if y'all keep acting like you have been.
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I will not abandon the soul of my nation for selfish gain.
 
ecofarm said:
I will not abandon the soul of my nation for selfish gain.
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:roll: You'd abandon "the soul" of your nation for anything you want....Remember the rule, 'what ever a liberal is accusing you of, is indeed what they are doing.'
 
Tangmo said:
That's a lot of mangled ideation. It's consistent with Trump however and certain historical figures who need enemies in order to usurp power. That is what is happening here bud. We saw it again today. It will be brought to a stop, Constitutionally of course.

Neither am I a socialist so go back to your broken down drawing board.
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So, yes, you’d like that leftist dictatorship to happen here. Of coarse, if it happened, you leftists would cry like babies that this isn’t what you wanted.


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j-mac said:
:roll: You'd abandon "the soul" of your nation for anything you want....Remember the rule, 'what ever a liberal is accusing you of, is indeed what they are doing.'
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True! And, have you noticed that the left is always trying to define “who we are as a nation”?
 
Crystal said:
True! And, have you noticed that the left is always trying to define “who we are as a nation”?
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Yeah, they also have some weird notion that 22% means that everyone agrees with them....lol
 
Dittohead not! said:
No, not Obama. That was Trump.

Before Trump, it seemed obvious that America would never adopt socialism...
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Really, what made it obvious for you? Obama trying to socialize our healthcare? Taking over student loans? The expansion of food stamps? Of course, this goes on and on. Which was it?



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j-mac said:
:roll: You'd abandon "the soul" of your nation for anything you want....Remember the rule, 'what ever a liberal is accusing you of, is indeed what they are doing.'
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Countries in Europe are founded on ethnicity. Countries in Africa are founded by white tyranny. Countries in the East are founded by ancient tribal wars.

But America is different. We're not founded on geography or ethnicity or lines drawn by outsiders. America is founded on principles. That's what makes us different than every other country in the world. I, for one, am not about to abandon that.
 
j-mac said:
:roll: You'd abandon "the soul" of your nation for anything you want....Remember the rule, 'what ever a liberal is accusing you of, is indeed what they are doing.'
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Perhaps I said it better here:

ecofarm said:
This website is not supposed to be home schooling regarding nationalism.

Anyway, that's a lesson ahead of itself. Clearly we need to start with "what makes someone an American". The answer to that is far more simple than some would like to believe for various agendas: being enlightened.

An enlightened individual, one who recognizes natural rights and seeks to validate and realize them, is an American. That's what the Enlightenment, The American and French Revolutions, The Constitution of the US and the foundation of the Western world and law as we know it is all about.

America is not a nation of geography or religion or ancestry. It's a nation of philosophy. A nation founded on a rock, the brotherhood of mankind.
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Worthy of defense against all enemies foreign and domestic.
 
j-mac said:
I wouldn't say "hate" in the true sense of the word, but they are certainly ashamed to have been lucky enough to be born here....
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That big lie has become standard Right Wing propaganda since Trump.

The only place that mindset goes is to camps.



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Yet some of us have radically different ideas about who goes to camp after the WH has been swept clean. The vile statement comes from the side of the political spectrum where many Americans would rather be ruled by Russia than governed by Democrats or democrats in their own native land. This can only go so far. Each day we get closer to its certain limit.
 
What a debacle ; )
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Anthony60 said:
So, yes, you’d like that leftist dictatorship to happen here. Of coarse, if it happened, you leftists would cry like babies that this isn’t what you wanted.


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American armed forces commanders active and retired are democrats to their core. They would act only to restore democracy, not to destroy it. The Putin-Trump Rowers need to awaken to the fact and reality and to prepare themselves for the possible eventuality. Because everything revolves around Trump. What Trump does or doesn't do will determine the nature, ways and means of an American Restoration, for lack of a better term. A second national reconstruction under the Constitution.
 
Anthony60 said:
Really, what made it obvious for you? Obama trying to socialize our healthcare? Taking over student loans? The expansion of food stamps? Of course, this goes on and on. Which was it?



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The only real excursion we made into socialism was the bailout and partial take over of General Motors. When else has the government ever taken over the means of production?

Socialized healthcare is what they have in Spain. I'm aware of no other nation that has such a system, and none has been proposed here.
 
Interesting discussion on Trump politicizing the military. Take note also of his saying My Generals, My Military.

 
Tangmo said:
That's a lot of mangled ideation. It's consistent with Trump however and certain historical figures who need enemies in order to usurp power. That is what is happening here bud. We saw it again today. It will be brought to a stop, Constitutionally of course.

Neither am I a socialist so go back to your broken down drawing board.
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I don't see Trump usurping power. Is he trying to take over healthcare? Is he having the government take over student loans? He's been reversing a lot of Obama's power grabs, thank God.
 
Tangmo said:
American armed forces commanders active and retired are democrats to their core.
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They are not in support of Socialism and government taking our freedoms and liberties away, as todays Democrats want.
They would act only to restore democracy, not to destroy it.
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They are commanded by a civilian in this country, so it's really not up to them. Oh, how the left would love for the military to move against Trump. Our country is over at that point, of course.
 
Anthony60 said:
They are not in support of Socialism and government taking our freedoms and liberties away, as todays Democrats want.
They are commanded by a civilian in this country, so it's really not up to them. Oh, how the left would love for the military to move against Trump. Our country is over at that point, of course.
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You do know of course the difference between Democrats and democrats, right? I didn't think so. Accordingly, allow me to advise you our generals and admirals are not Socialists nor are they members of the Democratic National Committee. Or any Democratic state committee. I can't speak for the county level however :lamo What I do say is that they are democrats to the core. In their genes in fact.


And that the armed forces oath is to the Constitution and to the Constitution only. Or are you going to say the Potus/ CinC is above the Constitution. And that the armed forces are committed to that. If you did try to say any such thing you'd be speaking out your ass.

Potus is mentioned in the enlisted oath which is -- under UCMJ -- to the Constitution and to the Constitution only. No one is in the oath of the commissioned officer. The oath of the commissioned officer is to the Constitution and the Constitution only, clearly and directly. Only a sophomore would try to argue otherwise in any of this. Or perhaps just a plain ol' Right Wing Putin-Trump Rower.
 
Anthony60 said:
I don't see Trump usurping power. Is he trying to take over healthcare? Is he having the government take over student loans? He's been reversing a lot of Obama's power grabs, thank God.
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You're thanking God because you're certain he's a Rightwinger too.

In which case neither He nor You can get anything right. Right in this instance meaning of course accurate and true.

Obama is your anti-Christ which leaves you with Trump being your savior. All of which suggests this will not end well over there. One way I measure how badly things are going for the Right is the number of times they have to fall back to put Obama into your posts. Keeps getting worse eh. I mean you guyz have got Obama all over this thread.
 
Tangmo said:
That big lie has become standard Right Wing propaganda since Trump.

The only place that mindset goes is to camps.



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Yet some of us have radically different ideas about who goes to camp after the WH has been swept clean. The vile statement comes from the side of the political spectrum where many Americans would rather be ruled by Russia than governed by Democrats or democrats in their own native land. This can only go so far. Each day we get closer to its certain limit.
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That's just silly...And if you really believe that instead of just trying to be provocative, then, I think you need to take a few steps back...
 
Tangmo said:
You do know of course the difference between Democrats and democrats, right? I didn't think so. Accordingly, allow me to advise you our generals and admirals are not Socialists nor are they members of the Democratic National Committee. Or any Democratic state committee. I can't speak for the county level however :lamo What I do say is that they are democrats to the core. In their genes in fact.
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What? Really? the generals and admirals are not part of the DNC??? OMG! LOL!


And that the armed forces oath is to the Constitution and to the Constitution only. Or are you going to say the Potus/ CinC is above the Constitution. And that the armed forces are committed to that. If you did try to say any such thing you'd be speaking out your ass.

Potus is mentioned in the enlisted oath which is -- under UCMJ -- to the Constitution and to the Constitution only. No one is in the oath of the commissioned officer. The oath of the commissioned officer is to the Constitution and the Constitution only, clearly and directly. Only a sophomore would try to argue otherwise in any of this. Or perhaps just a plain ol' Right Wing Putin-Trump Rower.
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Thanks for yesterday's news. How about a point? You forgot to include one.
 
Tangmo said:
You're thanking God because you're certain he's a Rightwinger too.

In which case neither He nor You can get anything right. Right in this instance meaning of course accurate and true.

Obama is your anti-Christ which leaves you with Trump being your savior. All of which suggests this will not end well over there. One way I measure how badly things are going for the Right is the number of times they have to fall back to put Obama into your posts. Keeps getting worse eh. I mean you guyz have got Obama all over this thread.
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Hey, another post without a point. You're on a roll. Maybe you should stop telling me what you think that I think and believe, since you start off being entirely wrong and your post is a joke. Just a bit of advice. The flawed, bend, and twisted logic doesn't help either.
 
Tangmo said:
American armed forces commanders active and retired are democrats to their core. They would act only to restore democracy, not to destroy it. The Putin-Trump Rowers need to awaken to the fact and reality and to prepare themselves for the possible eventuality. Because everything revolves around Trump. What Trump does or doesn't do will determine the nature, ways and means of an American Restoration, for lack of a better term. A second national reconstruction under the Constitution.
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First sentence is fantasy.

The entire post is partisan BS.
 
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