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Antifa-Proud Boys confrontation in Portland turns violent; conservative writer injured

jmotivator said:
More to the point, they had spoken before the rally about plans to target Ngo specifically.

But either way, watch these Antifa supporters in this thread treat violence by their side as good and just... this is the mindset that leads to very bad things.
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Woah.

Add in conspiracy then.

With the hate crime enhancements, we won't be seeing these masked homophobic fascists around anymore.

:)
 
3leftsdoo said:
Woah.

Add in conspiracy then.

With the hate crime enhancements, we won't be seeing these masked homophobic fascists around anymore.

:)
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That must be very exciting for you and your friends.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Hey even CNN knows about Antifa attacking reporters....


Jim Ryan
‏Verified account @Jimryan015

First skirmish I’ve seen. Didn’t see how this started, but @MrAndyNgo got roughed up.





Jake Tapper
‏Verified account @jaketapper

Jake Tapper Retweeted Jim Ryan

Antifa regularly attacks journalists; it’s reprehensible

Cal Perry on Twitter: "“Fu** you, snitch ass news bitch. Fu** you”. #Charlotsville… " …

Tim Mak on Twitter: "Dodged an egg thrown at my head from inside the Antifa crowd as NPR's Brian Mann narrated… " …

DeJuan Hoggard on Twitter: "Protestors didn’t want to be filmed and cut my photographer’s audio cable cord.… " …
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Fascists gotta fascist.
 
I just watched the video, and the black bloc guys were yelling "**** you" and calling the guy a dick. I didn't hear any homophobic comments.
 
Cardinal said:
Also:



https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states
Center for Strategic and International Studies - Media Bias/Fact Check
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The initial discussion was about Antifa & the Proud Boys, which you then extended to 'white supremacist groups', which you're again attempting to extend to 'right-wing extremists', which includes the sovereign citizens wing nuts.

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Common Sense 1 said:
Hey even CNN knows about Antifa attacking reporters....


Jim Ryan
‏Verified account @Jimryan015

First skirmish I’ve seen. Didn’t see how this started, but @MrAndyNgo got roughed up.





Jake Tapper
‏Verified account @jaketapper

Jake Tapper Retweeted Jim Ryan

Antifa regularly attacks journalists; it’s reprehensible

Cal Perry on Twitter: "“Fu** you, snitch ass news bitch. Fu** you”. #Charlotsville… " …

Tim Mak on Twitter: "Dodged an egg thrown at my head from inside the Antifa crowd as NPR's Brian Mann narrated… " …

DeJuan Hoggard on Twitter: "Protestors didn’t want to be filmed and cut my photographer’s audio cable cord.… " …
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It's totally okay when Trump supporters do the same thing at rallies, though.
 
Hamish Howl said:
That would wash if Mcinnes and some of the other knob ends weren't constantly ranting about the Gays.
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It's just a matter of nazis being in such short supply, that some people have to pretend others are Nazis to justify their existence and violence.

McInnes has no issue with "the gays". But, look.. who cares. Since the "white supremacist label is laughable.. a different attack was needed.

They certainly are not pro Islam.. they certainly believe Western Culture is the best - and, they are correct. But anti-gay white supremacists? nah.
 
Hamish Howl said:
But you're okay with proud boys beating up a gay dude outside a bar?

Your moral outrage is selective.
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Bizarre straw man deflection.

Ludicrous/irrelevant ad hom.
 
buck said:
It's just a matter of nazis being in such short supply, that some people have to pretend others are Nazis to justify their existence and violence.

McInnes has no issue with "the gays". But, look.. who cares. Since the "white supremacist label is laughable.. a different attack was needed.

They certainly are not pro Islam.. they certainly believe Western Culture is the best - and, they are correct. But anti-gay white supremacists? nah.
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I didn't call them white supremacists. I called them nationalists. Cardinal called them white supremacists.
 
truthatallcost said:
The initial discussion was about Antifa & the Proud Boys, which you then extended to 'white supremacist groups', which you're again attempting to extend to 'right-wing extremists', which includes the sovereign citizens wing nuts.
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You attempted to refute my claim that White Supremacist groups are mostly responsible for domestic terrorism that results in death. I demonstrated that my claim was correct using...what was it...six different sources?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Bizarre straw man deflection.

Ludicrous/irrelevant ad hom.
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Where in the video were the black bloc guys shouting homophobic slurs. I just watched it, they said "**** you" and "dick".
 
j-mac said:
Let me make this clear...I do NOT support the Proud Boys, or what they claim are their values...With that said I am posting this because a Conservative writer/blogger was attacked by AntiFa during this latest riot in Portland...If this had been reversed and members of the Proud Boys had attacked a liberal journalist covering this, then not only would the left in here gone total ape ****, generalizing every conservative, or republican as a supporter of the violence that happened, but calling them responsible for the reporter's injury...I won't do that....I know that many on the left in here don't support AntiFa's leftist fascist action, just as myself and others on the right don't support Proud Boys....But, here is the opportunity for those on the left and right to denounce this violence. Let's see who are the rational members, and who can't resist the attack....
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Can we finally admit there are two sides with an agenda at fault in a violent confrontation.
 
Outlook said:
Can we finally admit there are two sides with an agenda at fault in a violent confrontation.
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Yep. That's exactly what's happening.

And it's going to continue, and get worse.
 
Cardinal said:
You attempted to refute my claim that White Supremacist groups are mostly responsible for domestic terrorism that results in death. I demonstrated that my claim was correct using...what was it...six different sources?
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The Proud Boys still aren't a white supremacist group though.

truthatallcost said:
The Proud Boys aren't a 'white supremacist group'.

Prior to 2018's Pittsburgh Synagogue Attack, Islamic terrorists produced the majority of terrorist related deaths per year. The ADL's yearly report on Extremist Driven Murders, which every major news source cites, has always been nonsense.



You shouldn't fear either group. I don't, and I live in Northern California, where Antifa tried to burn down a university for allowing Ben Shapiro to speak, lol.
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truthatallcost said:
The Proud Boys still aren't a white supremacist group though.
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White Pride, Nationalist, ultra right wing and neo-fascist would all apply without any issue.
 
Outlook said:
Can we finally admit there are two sides with an agenda at fault in a violent confrontation.
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I don't believe that it is two sides. This a coordinated campaign with confrontations and social unrest the goal.


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Cardinal said:
White Pride, Nationalist, ultra right wing and neo-fascist would all apply without any issue.
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You just described labels that were flimsily attached to Trump at one point too. It's meaningless Card. Why not just say, 'I like white violent people when they represent my interests, i.e. Antifa'?
 
Hamish Howl said:
I didn't call them white supremacists. I called them nationalists. Cardinal called them white supremacists.
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Nationalist is just putting your nation first.
Great... we should all be nationalists.
 
Cardinal said:
White Pride, Nationalist, ultra right wing and neo-fascist would all apply without any issue.
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Ok, but you aren't using any of those...No....You're trying the best you can to blur the line between White Supremacists, and other extreme right wing groups...It's so dishonest as to be a lie....
 
buck said:
Nationalist is just putting your nation first.
Great... we should all be nationalists.
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Definition:

noun

1.
a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
"he was a staunch nationalist during his 22 years in power"
a person who advocates or supports the political independence of a particular nation or people.
noun: nationalist; plural noun: nationalists
"a Basque nationalist"

adjective
adjective: nationalist

1.
relating to nationalists or nationalism.
"a nationalist movement"
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(bolding mine)
 
j-mac said:


Ok, but you aren't using any of those...No....You're trying the best you can to blur the line between White Supremacists, and other extreme right wing groups...It's so dishonest as to be a lie....
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If they hang out at Unite The Right or Patriot Prayer rallies, that's good enough for me. They go into the box with the other Nazis.
 
j-mac said:
So IOW, the bolded part is abhorrent to you?
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It is when the flavor of that nationalism is to enforce a single cultural view on people. The proud boys don't limit themselves to hating on Muslims. They also hate Gays, women that don't know "their place", and anything else that doesn't involve white people being top dog just because they're white.
 
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