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Almost 300 migrant children removed from Texas facility described as 'appalling'

SLC said:
You know what is in his heart. Interesting maybe God could use your help.
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His heart seems to be full of nothing but hate, really.
 
pamak said:
Bypassing the "whataboutism" issue, if you REALLY believe what you say, then you also indirectly make the claim that Obama's immigration enforcement policies were similar to those of Trump. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
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What? That this has been an issue for years? That one party sees this as an "opportunity"? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
 
SheWolf said:
You are one of the posters here who talks about your religion, and this much more your own personal failure as any else you try to blame. None of you Christian Trump supporters were ready to sound the bell when kids were in cages and sleeping with foil blankets: when children were first reported to die in custody: when the US government admitted to lossing track of kids and essentially creating orphans. The media exposed this one horrible center, and I am sure there are dozens more. Trump and his supporters have shown little to no concern for these people from the beginning. They have been dehumanized as criminals, invaders, and job takers. and here you are wanting to blame it on Obama. This shouldn't be about politics. It's about human rights, and you had to have your concern for human rights on the back burner if you voted for Trump.
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I don't think I've ever talked about my religion on this forum.
 
Taylor said:
What? That this has been an issue for years? That one party sees this as an "opportunity"? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
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Okay, at least you are consistent...

By the way, while I agree that the issue has been going on for years, I see this administration making decisions about how to enforce the laws that made the problem worse from a humanitarian point of view. Part of the reason is because they did not plan in advance to deal with the consequences. They were forced in most cases to react only after public pressure. The same happened with the removal of these 300 kids (or better say 200 since 100 returned back). In other cases, cruelty was indeed the point. Kelly was veryyy clear about it when he revealed his plan to expand the separation of kids from their parents.
 
Taylor said:
I don't think I've ever talked about my religion on this forum.
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Oh you have. You have talked to me about your religion and tried to lecture me on mine, and, in fact, you accused me of putting more faith in science than God. Taylor, you don't like science as much as you like God and Trump, and all you have done in this thread is play politics and whataboutism. You're not at all concerned for these people nor outraged by their treatment. You're just trying to bring negative attention to Pelosi and other democrats, and that's as far as your concern for this issue goes.
 
American said:
The left is sick in the head. They're encouraging this activity by their words and inactions on immigration reform. What happens to children was started by Obama.
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This must be that "personal responsibility" thing I've heard so much about.

"The democrats made us do it."
 
American said:
The left is sick in the head. They're encouraging this activity by their words and inactions on immigration reform. What happens to children was started by Obama.

Barack Obama's ICE Chief: Don't Blame Trump, ‘Cages’ For Illegals Were Built By Obama Administration | Daily Wire

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This didn't start with Obama. That's Trump being a liar, and if Fox News is reporting that all this happened under Obama, then they are lying to you also.

And again, here is another Trump supporter more concerned with playing politic than condemning what the government is doing. The treatment of these people is worse than the Japanese during the internment, and this is what Trump campaigned on. Mass deportations were going to inevitability lead to a crisis, and when he enacted the family separation policy and detainment of people applying for asylum, you were silent.
 
SheWolf said:
This didn't start with Obama. That's Trump being a liar, and if Fox News is reporting that all this happened under Obama, then they are lying to you also.

And again, here is another Trump supporter more concerned with playing politic than condemning what the government is doing. The treatment of these people is worse than the Japanese during the internment, and this is what Trump campaigned on. Mass deportations were going to inevitability lead to a crisis, and when he enacted the family separation policy and detainment of people applying for asylum, you were silent.
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Can you offer proof that this started under trump and not Obama. Are you saying Thomas Homan the associate director of ICE under Obama is lying. Because he said he personally oversaw the building of 3000 "cages" during the Obama administration.

Barack Obama's ICE Chief: Don't Blame Trump, ‘Cages’ For Illegals Were Built By Obama Administration | Daily Wire

Thomas Homan, Obama’s executive associate director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement between May 2013 and January 2017, was responsible for “promoting public safety and national security by maintaining direct oversight of critical ICE programs and operations to identify, locate, arrest, detain and remove illegal aliens from the United States,” according to his LinkedIn profile. Since January 2017, he has served as Acting Director for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

He stated on Wednesday, “I’ve been to that facility, where they talk about cages. That facility was built under President Obama under (Homeland Security) Secretary Jeh Johnson. I was there because I was there when it was built,”
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Taylor said:
I don't think I've ever talked about my religion on this forum.
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Well, you have. Do I really need to look up the posts? Because this site has a search function
 
American said:
The left is sick in the head. They're encouraging this activity by their words and inactions on immigration reform. What happens to children was started by Obama.

Barack Obama's ICE Chief: Don't Blame Trump, ‘Cages’ For Illegals Were Built By Obama Administration | Daily Wire

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The current narrative: We are separating parents from their children...like they did at Auschwitz! The hypothetical narrative if families were kept together: We are forcing children into prison with their parents...like they did in Stalin's gulags!

Children are the currency of the Left.... every bad idea they have is "For the children..." until they become inconvenient...… then its CHOICE!

It's a flap primarily among people who would never have voted GOP anyway. The Repubs will do just fine.
even those who despise Trump, have no business honoring this contrived nonsense.

The Obama administration placed over 100,000 unaccompanied alien children who entered the United States into illegal alien homes.

These illegal alien homes were then granted hefty commissions for housing the alien children.

Obama never vetted anyone coming into our country. I remember when an article came out stating pertaining to the ones getting here
we were not allowed to look at their social media accounts, ordered from Obama and his cronies. Sickening.

Releasing "street children" to illegal aliens. What could possibly go wrong? This is something that an enemy of the state would
try to employ not a sitting president! Then again, we ARE talking about Barack Hussein Obama here
 
300 children in one facility is gut wrenching...at least it is for those of us not hiding behind our thumping Bible.
 
JustHanging said:
Actually, I think it was more along the lines of "Building a wall is stupid. They have ladders." Because, you know, they have ladders.
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Really? Because I don't see too many ladders at places that have the wall...why is that do you suppose? Home Depot out of stock?

Seriously, that is the dumbest thing to say in this debate.

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Ikari said:
I mean, internment camps for children might be a bit overboard.

We certainly have some broken laws and for some reason cannot turn around and either deport or process these kids. But mostly, it seems like another way for government to throw money at their buddies for a broken system.
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So, I see no solution in that post...changing some laws is fine, but what do you do right now?

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HenryChinaski said:
How about we just call them "children" that are here at no fault of their own and in the care of the US government which is allowing them to sit in their own waste without food soap, toothpaste or medical care.
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Could you direct us to the EO that orders that? Surely, evil orange man bad must have ordered it...

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bluesmoke said:
While many attempt to hijack this thread, I’ll try to stay with what is relevant to the original subject. I take that to be it is a given that conditions in a border patrol facility housing children (under 18 years of age) are as described in the OP. And, that the poster is positing such is “a serious black eye on us as a so called “civilized and compassionate” nation.” I haven’t seen any post with proof that refutes the stated condition of the facility. I also haven’t seen any proof that these conditions could not have been avoided or be rectified now without having to pass legislation. Therefore the fault lies with the current administration regardless of who did what in the past. Nothing stops Trump from fixing this matter.
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Ok, what's he supposed to do?

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calamity said:
300 children in one facility is gut wrenching...at least it is for those of us not hiding behind our thumping Bible.
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Your too partisan to fix the law. It's 100% your fault.
 
slick said:
The current narrative: We are separating parents from their children...like they did at Auschwitz! The hypothetical narrative if families were kept together: We are forcing children into prison with their parents...like they did in Stalin's gulags!

Children are the currency of the Left.... every bad idea they have is "For the children..." until they become inconvenient...… then its CHOICE!

It's a flap primarily among people who would never have voted GOP anyway. The Repubs will do just fine.
even those who despise Trump, have no business honoring this contrived nonsense.

The Obama administration placed over 100,000 unaccompanied alien children who entered the United States into illegal alien homes.

These illegal alien homes were then granted hefty commissions for housing the alien children.

Obama never vetted anyone coming into our country. I remember when an article came out stating pertaining to the ones getting here
we were not allowed to look at their social media accounts, ordered from Obama and his cronies. Sickening.

Releasing "street children" to illegal aliens. What could possibly go wrong? This is something that an enemy of the state would
try to employ not a sitting president! Then again, we ARE talking about Barack Hussein Obama here
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Well it all goes hand in hand with the fact that Obama was never vetted either. The Left (incl MSM) got down on their knees and worshipped him like a god. They even felt tingles up their legs, these Obama sycophants spent 8 years defending this mouthpiece who, in the final analysis, accomplish virtually nothing. He did win a Nobel Prize for that nothing accomplishment at the start of his administration almost prophetically.
 
American said:
Well it all goes hand in hand with the fact that Obama was never vetted either. The Left (incl MSM) got down on their knees and worshipped him like a god. They even felt tingles up their legs, these Obama sycophants spent 8 years defending this mouthpiece who, in the final analysis, accomplish virtually nothing. He did win a Nobel Prize for that nothing accomplishment at the start of his administration almost prophetically.
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You're a birther?
 
SheWolf said:
This didn't start with Obama. That's Trump being a liar, and if Fox News is reporting that all this happened under Obama, then they are lying to you also.

And again, here is another Trump supporter more concerned with playing politic than condemning what the government is doing. The treatment of these people is worse than the Japanese during the internment, and this is what Trump campaigned on. Mass deportations were going to inevitability lead to a crisis, and when he enacted the family separation policy and detainment of people applying for asylum, you were silent.
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No, this happened under Obama.
 
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