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AOC claims US is putting ‘concentration camps’ on border

Just cut off the truth and mislead people, that's they way you operate?

No I didn't. Why are you lying? I quoted the relevant part of what makes a concentration camp.

The American Concentration Camps check all the boxes.

Your argument appears to be that it's only a concentration camp if it housed Jews. That is ridiculous.

From Encyclopedia Brittanica:

During war, civilians have been concentrated in camps to prevent them from engaging in guerrilla warfare or providing aid to enemy forces or simply as a means of terrorizing the populace into submission. During the South African War (1899–1902) the British confined noncombatants of the republics of Transvaal and Cape Colony in concentration camps. Another instance of interning noncombatant civilians occurred shortly after the outbreak of hostilities between Japan and the United States (December 7, 1941), when more than 100,000 Japanese and Japanese-Americans on the West Coast were taken into custody and placed in camps in the interior.


That is just clownish behavior. Why don't you just run along until you grow a spine?

You're mad at me, insult me, because you don't understand how a dictionary works?

Quit exhibiting such poor behavior, and learn to take personal responsibility for your actions.
 
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No I didn't. Why are you lying? I quoted the relevant part of what makes a concentration camp.

The American Concentration Camps check all the boxes.

Your argument appears to be that it's only a concentration camp if it housed Jews. That is ridiculous.

From Encyclopedia Brittanica:

During war, civilians have been concentrated in camps to prevent them from engaging in guerrilla warfare or providing aid to enemy forces or simply as a means of terrorizing the populace into submission. During the South African War (1899–1902) the British confined noncombatants of the republics of Transvaal and Cape Colony in concentration camps. Another instance of interning noncombatant civilians occurred shortly after the outbreak of hostilities between Japan and the United States (December 7, 1941), when more than 100,000 Japanese and Japanese-Americans on the West Coast were taken into custody and placed in camps in the interior.




You're mad at me, insult me, because you don't understand how a dictionary works?

Quit exhibiting such poor behavior, and learn to take personal responsibility for your actions.

Yikes! With your cringey edit you just face-planted with extreme prejudice ... you are fake-news.

Further spinning isn't helping, at all. That was pathetic.
 
AOC claims US is putting ‘concentration camps’ on border

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accused the Trump administration of housing immigrants in concentration camps on the Mexican border and used the phrase "never again" that is associated with the Holocaust.

"The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border and that is exactly what they are - they are concentration camps and if that doesn't bother you" Ocasio-Cortez said as she throws up her hands.


Absolute idiocy from the dumbest person ever elected to office. This woman is a menace. I'm sure the leftist media will call her out on this offensive stupidity.

They are concentration camps.

concentration camp | Facts, History, & Definition | Britannica.com

Concentration Camps Expert Andrea Pitzer: The Trump Administration Is Running Camps at the Southern Border

Your problem is that you are conflating the term "concentration camp" thinking of it as the Nazi perversion thereof. Perhaps you prefer "internment camp"

We are all sorry that this offends your sensibilities, but most human beings would be more offended by what was happening at the border than the name used by a frosh congressman to characterize a physical location.
 
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Let me help you out, since you excluded a very important part. Here it is, with the part you didn't have the guts to include...

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners.

Just cut off the truth and mislead people, that's they way you operate? That is just clownish behavior. Why don't you just run along until you grow a spine?

Yes, that is how it is often used, but that is what it is. But as you've already made clear, you would have been totally cool with Jews being kept in concentration camps except that the Nazis had to go one step too far and kill them.

Do I need to repeat your own logic back to you?
 
Her nickname should Air Head.

Living rent free in the heads of the knuckledraggers who slurp on the schlong of the tangerine toddler.
 
Yikes! With your cringey edit

LOL, don't be ridiculous. I quoted the relevant part of the definition. Your argument would only stand if something could only be a Concentration Camp if it was used to hold Jews. Of course, this is wrong.

So, once again you are factually wrong.


Further spinning isn't helping, at all. That was pathetic.

You were wrong. No amount of whinging and crying will change that. Learn to take personal responsiblity for your actions.
 
LOL! Sure you did. What a joke. Not playing your “who, lil ‘ole me?” Game. What a stooge.

Ohes noes. Someone is calling me names because I didn't include something that is common knowledge. Whatever shall I do?

LOL, learn to make a coherent argument next time, and you won't be reduced to something found on elementary school grounds.
 
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LOL, don't be ridiculous. I quoted the relevant part of the definition. Your argument would only stand if something could only be a Concentration Camp if it was used to hold Jews. Of course, this is wrong.

So, once again you are factually wrong.




You were wrong. No amount of whinging and crying will change that. Learn to take personal responsiblity for your actions.

Stop digging.
 
Stop digging.

Why? Because I didn't bother including something that's common knowledge? You're going down deeper and deeper. It's fun to watch. :lamo
 
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They are concentration camps.

concentration camp | Facts, History, & Definition | Britannica.com

Concentration Camps Expert Andrea Pitzer: The Trump Administration Is Running Camps at the Southern Border

Your problem is that you are conflating the term "concentration camp" thinking of it as the Nazi perversion thereof. Perhaps you prefer "internment camp"

We are all sorry that this offends your sensibilities, but most human beings would be more offended by what was happening at the border than the name used by a frosh congressman to characterize a physical location.

That's the thing, they want to call them anything but Concentration Camps.

I suspect for many it's that they like seeing immigrants put into Concentration Camps, but they know that if the general public hears about children dying in Concentration Camps, they might get shut down. So they're working their little hearts out trying to figure out reasons why Concentration Camps aren't actually Concentration Camps.
 
Why? Because I didn't bother including something that's common knowledge? You're going down deeper and deeper. It's fun to watch. :lamo

The projection won't save you either ... stop yourself.

You purposely omitted, what was in this instance, the most relevant sentence in the entire paragraph in order to make your weak case appear stronger ... and that was shamefully deceitful.

Now, if you would simply stop with the pitiful, face-saving gymnastics ... with any luck, no one else will read your glaringly dishonest omission. And yes, that would indeed be to your benefit.
 
As described in the general definition of "concentration camp" they are indeed concentration camps. And the phrase "never again" is also a warning against complacency to future generations. What would be grossly ignorant and dishonorable of history would be to overlook the fact that places of horror like Dachau and Auschwitz were the ultimate result of an ideological campaign of a steady incremental persecution and dehumanization of groups of people deemed inferior and labeled as being criminals, traitors, thieves, vermin, etc. over several years that eventually made it easier to make the jump from persecution to genocide. Like another poster pointed out in here, The holocaust didn't begin overnight. There were a series of smaller steps of escalation along the way.

First, closely read what I wrote. I stated that by SOME DEFINTIONS (MEANINGS) in some contexts you might refer to border detention facilities as a concentration camp. BUT there are "OTHER" definitions (meanings) and contexts using it is an absurd and disingenuous slander of the actual character of those border camps.

Absent the provision of your specific concentration camp definition, or explanation of how that is "the general definition" all you are providing is undefined terms as a soap box for bloviation.

Second, what we do know is that a word's "general meaning" is that meaning that most people attribute to a word. More specialized (academic and expert) meaning is that which those individuals attribute to a word in their work. Most people do not associate concentration camps with anything other than the holocaust, and they certainty don't associate it with the histography of the second Boar War. (its origins). Your unwillingness to acknowledge the common association with Nazi Germany is odd: "concentration camps are where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area... to provide forced labor or to await mass execution." They associate it "with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1h933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.". (Bing Definition).

Perhaps you are unaware that Ms. AOC herself acknowledges that, as a defense, she was actually using "the academic requirement for what a concentration camp is.” In other words, intentionally let an audience believe she was using THEIR meaning, linking border camps with a Jewish motto regarding the death camps and the holocaust.

Third, your equally ignorant of history of the motto "never again". It's origins are debated BUT all sources agree that as a motto, its origins use are Jewish. It was the slogan of the JDL, founded in 1968. It was in the title of a book by JDL's founder who wrote “We have seen,” referring to the Holocaust,"the mounds of corpses and visited the camps where they killed us. . . . By our sides were the ghosts of those who were no longer, whose blood was shed like water because Jewish blood is considered cheap. We saw their outstretched hands and looked into their burning and soul-searing eyes that peered into our very being and heard them say: Never again. Promise us. Never again." (Another possible source is Jewish-Swedish filmmaker's 1961 documentary Mein Kampf. The final words, over a general shot of Auschwitz, the narrator says simply, “It must never happen again—never again.”

Last, you're attacking a ghost. No one is overlooking "the fact that places of horror like Dachau and Auschwitz were the ultimate result of an ideological campaign to persecute a people" or deny that this persecution was fully intended to lead to genocide. Which, by the way, is the point: physical detention (jails, alien interment, refugee camps, etc.) doesn't cause Auschwitz's … ideology and absolute power does.

Therefore, as I said: "to use that term directed to a general audience, while also attempting to link border detention to the "never again" phrase for rejecting another holocaust (AOC). is grossly ignorant of (and dishonors) history. Border centers are NOT concentration camps as generally understood in common discourse. AOC knew that, but addressed a general audience using a loaded term with a Jewish holocaust motto..."

So I know it. She inadvertently admits to it. And long before now you should known it.

Period.
 
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For those still in denial...

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Then tell your dem leaders to pony up some cash and quit worsening a situation that they are almost entirely responsible for sustaining.

How much cash, and for what?
 
To say that concentration camp references conjure up anything other than millions of dead Jews being bull dozed into mass graves , is being intellectually dishonest. You’re fooling nobody. We know exactly what she said. This is all a lame attempt at walking back a stupid statement. AOC and her lemmings should stop digging.

No, it is not playing along with the absurd position that concentration camp only references one thing.

I know what AOC said, and I know how people are responding... and predictably it is right down political ideological lines having little to nothing to do with history.
 
Can we tell it as it is?

Generally speaking, life in the those detention camps is better for those unauthorized immigrants than life is in their homelands.

They should be grateful to the generosity of American taxpayers for such kindness.
 
Can we tell it as it is?

Generally speaking, life in the those detention camps is better for those unauthorized immigrants than life is in their homelands.

They should be grateful to the generosity of American taxpayers for such kindness.

How do you know? You know neither where or what they came from or the conditions of the detention camps in comparison.

The generosity of Americans is going into the pockets of those running the detention camps not to the kind treatment of the people there.
 
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