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The New York Times U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia's Power Grid

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U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
[h=1]U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid[/h]WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Under the law, those actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without special presidential approval.
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The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld details about this operation with Trump over concerns that he might leak it to Russia. The fact that our own intelligence officials are not comfortable sharing intelligence information with the president of the US-- two years later demonstrates what dangerous territory we're in. The fact is, they cannot trust the president of the US with the details of highly classified information, they have an obligation to protect and defend the United States.
 
U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
[h=1]U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid[/h]WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Under the law, those actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without special presidential approval.
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The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld details about this operation with Trump over concerns that he might leak it to Russia. The fact that our own intelligence officials are not comfortable sharing intelligence information with the president of the US-- two years later demonstrates what dangerous territory we're in. The fact is, they cannot trust the president of the US with the details of highly classified information, they have an obligation to protect and defend the United States.

LOL

Sure thing. The President knows nothing about it.

:lamo


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LOL

Sure thing. The President knows nothing about it.

:lamo

That's absolutely right. The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld the details of this operation from blabbermouth Trump because they do not trust our own president. I'm glad that they're smart, I feel safer knowing this.
 
That's absolutely right. The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld the details of this operation from blabbermouth Trump because they do not trust our own president. I'm glad that they're smart, I feel safer knowing this.

True, Trump would no doubt compromise the operation in some stupid tweet or pep rally or phone call to Putin or his cronies. On the other hand, by keeping Trump ignorant of the details, it gives him plausible deniability should anything go south. That would be important to Trump.
 
U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
[h=1]U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid[/h]WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Under the law, those actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without special presidential approval.
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The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld details about this operation with Trump over concerns that he might leak it to Russia. The fact that our own intelligence officials are not comfortable sharing intelligence information with the president of the US-- two years later demonstrates what dangerous territory we're in. The fact is, they cannot trust the president of the US with the details of highly classified information, they have an obligation to protect and defend the United States.

You guys are a laugh riot.
Trump hasn't done anything ... what Trump did risked escalating the Cold War ... Trump wasn't told anything about it.
Just about covers every situation.
 
Well, we can sure as hell be certain that our cyberattacks against Russia are going to end now that trump knows about them.

Unless, of course, the department of defense simply ignores his orders to stop.
 
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That's absolutely right. The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld the details of this operation from blabbermouth Trump because they do not trust our own president. I'm glad that they're smart, I feel safer knowing this.

don't trust a thing NYT prints .....huge agenda against Trump and red state Americans.
 
So Trump does not know about the super secret program but MSM does and writes an article about it? Just freaking hilarious!!

Never mind this from the story:

Mr. Trump issued new authorities to Cyber Command last summer, in a still-classified document known as National Security Presidential Memoranda 13, giving General Nakasone far more leeway to conduct offensive online operations without receiving presidential approval.

The president knows exactly what is going on.... he give them the approval to do it!

Another fail thread to attack the president.
 
So Trump does not know about the super secret program but MSM does and writes an article about it? Just freaking hilarious!!

Never mind this from the story:

Mr. Trump issued new authorities to Cyber Command last summer, in a still-classified document known as National Security Presidential Memoranda 13, giving General Nakasone far more leeway to conduct offensive online operations without receiving presidential approval.

The president knows exactly what is going on.... he give them the approval to do it!

Another fail thread to attack the president.

Nothing in that paragraph specifically suggests that trump was aware of...let alone approved of...cyberattacks against Russia’s power grid.
 
Anyone who claims that trump ordered the cyberattacks (he didn’t) must first have all of their memories from the past three years surgically removed from their brains.
 
In future years historians will have the opportunity to explore in depth the curious relationship between our federal government and the current President of the United States who, in theory at least, administers it. This old codger will not be around to read them, unfortunately.
 
we'll never know:lol:

Since every Democratic candidate is polling better than trump, that’s certainly possible. You could just as easily be saying “President Warren” in 2021 as “President Biden.”
 
I have been counting in our multiple layers of bureaucracy and professional civil servants to help keep us safe from Trump's excesses for these four years.

So far, they're mostly holding the line. He still manages to punch through in places, but even his own staff is helping curb that. So maybe we can make it.



Then there will be a lot of reassessing to do if we manage to return to a time when the players are will to accept traditional and common sense limitations. WILL we be able to return to such a state? Or will have a flurry of restrictive laws passed to try to prevent Trumpian abuses in the future? Or will the powers that be decide they want to keep and take advantage of the precedents Trump has set?
 
I have been counting in our multiple layers of bureaucracy and professional civil servants to help keep us safe from Trump's excesses for these four years.

So far, they're mostly holding the line. He still manages to punch through in places, but even his own staff is helping curb that where they can. So maybe we can make it.



Then there will be a lot of reassessing to do if we manage to return to a time when the players are will to accept traditional and common sense limitations. WILL we be able to return to such a state? Or will have a flurry of restrictive laws passed to try to prevent Trumpian abuses in the future? Or will the powers that be decide they want to keep and take advantage of the precedents Trump has set?

It’s likely that some norms have already bit the dust. Two democratic candidates have already said that under their presidency the DOJ would prosecute trump. That would have been unthinkable four years ago.

Also, every time a party controls both the senate and the White House will be a judicial appointment free-for-all.
 
U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid
[h=1]U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid[/h]WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Under the law, those actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without special presidential approval.
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The Dept of Defense intentionally withheld details about this operation with Trump over concerns that he might leak it to Russia. The fact that our own intelligence officials are not comfortable sharing intelligence information with the president of the US-- two years later demonstrates what dangerous territory we're in. The fact is, they cannot trust the president of the US with the details of highly classified information, they have an obligation to protect and defend the United States.

Nonsense....That's not how it works...
 
Anyone who claims that trump ordered the cyberattacks (he didn’t) must first have all of their memories from the past three years surgically removed from their brains.

We would also need to have removed from our brains the fact that Donald Trump has been ever simultaneously duplicitous whenever he is being obsequiously praising and solicitous towards Russia and really anyone. The moment Donald Trump says how much he likes and trusts a person is pretty much the precursor to firing them or stabbing them in the back, and his solicitous words have rarely translated into solicitous actions. The man cannot be trusted to show fidelity towards the mother(s) of his children. I highly doubt that he is any more loyal to our foreign adversaries.
 
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Since every Democratic candidate is polling better than trump, that’s certainly possible.

That's what they said prior to the 2016 election as well.
How'd that work out for them?

Yeah, it didn't. ;)
 
That's what they said prior to the 2016 election as well.
How'd that work out for them?

Yeah, it didn't. ;)

Trump's internal polling showed him losing to Clinton?
 
That's what they said prior to the 2016 election as well.
How'd that work out for them?

Yeah, it didn't. ;)

I wouldn't believe any poll that predicts something 18 months out, but hey they are desperate to tell themselves that they will vanquish the usurper Trump from "their" White House.....;)
 
I wouldn't believe any poll that predicts something 18 months out, but hey they are desperate to tell themselves that they will vanquish the usurper Trump from "their" White House.....;)

18 months is certainly a long time out, but what do you imagine could break Trump's 45% ceiling? Do you think Trump will suddenly decide to be nice?
 
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