A cap that may or may not apply. Could be on the hook for as much as $57.2 with attorney fees. And hope they see even more than that in loss of donations and declining enrollments.
I have just read a headline that says that the college claims to be too poor to pay the fine.
Shall we take up a collection?
That was found to be false at the hearing.
Oberlin College to Jury: We're cash poor and big punitive award to Gibson's Bakery will hurt students
Of course they don't have rights. It's all part and parcel of our institutional so-called "justice" system. Whales have been hunted down and viciously slaughtered and consumed for 1000's of years. When will it end???!Whales are not citizens with rights, were not enslaved, did not suffer segregation and Jim Crow. Whales were not completely defamed and disenfranchised.
No justice for black people.
But whitey gets $44,000,000.
Institutional racism.
Of course they don't have rights. It's all part and parcel of our institutional so-called "justice" system. Whales have been hunted down and viciously slaughtered and consumed for 1000's of years. When will it end???!
We're all animals, are we not? The fact that you naturally assume I'm only "comparing black people to animals" tells me all I need to know about you and the reason for your "white guilt" posts. Thanks.Comparing black people to animals is racist. It's dehumanizing.
We're all animals, are we not? The fact that you naturally assume I'm only "comparing black people to animals" tells me all I need to know about you and the reason for your "white guilt" posts. Thanks.
That's your wishful thinking. The fact is that in the founders time slavery was legal and despite what their constitution said they would of believed the idea of a black man or a woman even of being equal to them to be ridiculous..
The cap applies. It is Ohio law. The maximum for punitive damages is 22 million. The 33 million I quoted earlier includes the bakery's attorney fees that Oberlin is responsible.
Le*gal In*sur*rec*tion
It made the free blacks in America equal when it was enacted and wrote in the coming end of the importation of slaves 20 years later.
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight,.....
Explain your position. How did the founders doom slavery? By doom you mean they allowed it to continue for another hundred years. Allowed millions to be bought, sold, worked, raped, murdered and split up from their families. Allowed men to become some of the wealthiest businessmen the world had seen on the back of that slave labor? Man that was some bad juju.
Whales are not citizens with rights, were not enslaved, did not suffer segregation and Jim Crow. Whales were not completely defamed and disenfranchised.
No justice for black people.
But whitey gets $44,000,000.
Institutional racism.
Segregation and Jim Crow did not cause massive social and economic harm, those were wrong and they were done away with generations ago, as was slavery. The balance sheet is now zero. In fact I would argue the welfare state which is disproportionately used by blacks is the main driver of economic and social harm to the black population. Economists like Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell agree with me.
institutional racism does not exist in contemporary America. The harm to the black community is self inflicted. No whites are forcing black mothers to have kids out of wedlock, or black fathers to be absent from the home, no white authorities tell black children to disrespect the police and commit crime, these are self inflicted harm.
Not true, Northern and British industralists were the richest in the world, not plantation owners in the south.
...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States. In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.*
The facts are very clear. The students did in fact attempt to steal.
The college did spread lies about the bakery.
Gibson's sues Oberlin College - Chronicle-Telegram
So, this article quotes rather liberally from briefs submitted by the plaintiff; not so much from the defendant. In the fact of me providing reasons for why things might not be as they seem, you've basically just said the same thing over again. That's not how discussion works.
The defendents lost btw
Yes, I know they did. As I mentioned in my first appearance in this thread, I'd expect this outcome to be appealed. The President of Oberlin has all but said as much. Of course, appeals fail to be perfected on numerous occasions, or otherwise sometimes fail to manifest. We shall see.
It's a good bet that when a jury examines all the evidence, they'll reach the right decision. But that's all it is--a good bet. We know that in fact juries sometimes reach an incorrect conclusion (looks like it may be somewhere between 10% and 25% of the time). In this case, there are reasons to think it's more likely than it might normally be that the jury did reach the incorrect conclusion. That doesn't mean they got it wrong--only that strident rushing forward toward a conclusion is not warranted, or not yet warranted, in this case.
I reiterate what I wrote in my first post in this thread: while I'm generally happy to be considered politically pretty far left, I do find some of what my fellow lefties do wrongheaded and even disturbing. Rioting before an Ann Coulter visit, rather than listening to what she says and having a spirited but civil discussion, for example. Proclaiming that since 9 out of 10 accusations of sexual harassment or assault are probably factual, it's OK to ruin the lives of innocent men by just automatically believing any and all such accusations, for another. And if this case turns out to be what Gibson's bakery alleges, this would be another. My point, however, is that such is not yet clear. It is better to withhold judgment for a while yet.
Justice for white people is swift and merciless.
Justice for black people is still waiting, 200 years and counting.
I see you approve of reducing 13% of the population to 0% of power and keeping them there.
You cheer a gross lawsuit because it will dissuade black people from complaining and others from taking up their complaints.
Capitalizing white is racist. It's not an ethnic group, despite what white supremacists say.
Actually, 44 million bucks is "don't tell lies in an attempt to destroy someone". I'm proud to be one of the biggest Trump bashers in this forum, but I won't stoop so low as to make false accusations. The college made false accusations. Let them pay for it.