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[W:140:186] *2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Terrorist groups don't have lippet mines or the ability to deploy them. Nor do they have the capacity for such a coordinated action.


I know you were 11Bush and all, but it’s a limpet mine and magnets are not all that complicated.

Airborne!
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

It could be an unusual terror group...

Bunch of angry dolphins armed with soviet weaponry protesting at humanity's pollution?
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I know you were 11Bush and all, but it’s a limpet mine and magnets are not all that complicated.

Airborne!

11H, the smart guys. Delta was heavy weapons company.

Hey, I read it this morning. It was pretty close.

It is complicated. And terrorist groups don't have them. And the coordination.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Oil embargo
Code Purple
Aircraft Carriers
Rufus Bratton
Events leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor - Wikipedia
U-571

must have breezed over this topic


You can try to make it personal if you like but it merely makes you look childish in addition to looking uneducated. None of that forced Japan to attack Pearl Harbor... it was their aggressive Imperial building that laid the foundations for it.

I guess by the same logic it was China's fault that Japan invaded them. The Rape of Nanking was China's fault too? It was Britain and France's fault that Hong Kong, Singapore, Indo-China, etc were also attacked?

When does it become Japan's fault? Never? My classes taught me to look at facts... yours taught you that Japan was a victim. Poor Japan!
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Bunch of angry dolphins armed with soviet weaponry protesting at humanity's pollution?

False Flag then ... the US owns those dolphins.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

So I don't care much for this kind of false flag CT nonsense honestly.
I bet you also think the moon landing is a hoax and the Earth is flat and we're all pawns in the game of the lizard people.

I did not categorically say it is a false flag operation. But it is undeniable that there are clear national motives to make someone think that a false flag operation is a very plausible scenario instead of coming immediately to the conclusion (as you did) that Iran is "obviously" behind this. Your hasty attempt to link Iran betrays your motives.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I did not categorically say it is a false flag operation. But it is undeniable that there are clear national motives to make someone think that a false flag operation is a very plausible scenario instead of coming immediately to the conclusion (as you did) that Iran is "obviously" behind this. Your hasty attempt to link Iran betrays your motives.

Your excitement in pushing this CT nonsense betrays yours actually.
There's nothing new about Iranian proxy attacks on Western/Sunni targets. They do this all the time, and have been doing so for decades.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Your excitement in pushing this CT nonsense betrays yours actually.
There's nothing new about Iranian proxy attacks on Western/Sunni targets. They do this all the time, and have been doing so for deacdes.

I am not the one who is excited. If you noticed, I did not categorically or forcefully pushed the scenario of a false flag operation. I said that it is a very plausible scenario. If somebody is excited, then the this is you who came here with an already assurance of what happened just a day after the event. And since your profile shows that you are in Israel, I can easily see your excitement to persuade us to go after Iran.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

No, but Pompeo said that Iran did it, and everybody knows he neither lies, cheats or steals! :lamo

Pompeo, is a straight talker, along with his kin, the Mustache Bolton. It must be true?
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

False Flag then ... the US owns those dolphins.

Was it the Miami accent that gave them up?
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Was it the Miami accent that gave them up?

an accent with flair...
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I am not the one who is excited. If you noticed, I did not categorically or forcefully pushed the scenario of a false flag operation. I said that it is a very plausible scenario. If somebody is excited, then the this is you who came here with an already assurance of what happened just a day after the event. And since your profile shows that you are in Israel, I can easily see your excitement to persuade us to go after Iran.

Everything is plausible when you're someone who sees a person posting from Israel on an internet forum and think that you've uncovered a ploy to cause a war between two nations.
Like I said I honestly do not care much for you CT nonsense type.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Everything is plausible when you're someone who sees a person posting from Israel on an internet forum and think that you've uncovered a ploy to cause a war between two nations.
Like I said I honestly do not care much for you CT nonsense type.

I never said anything about uncovering a ploy. I said that it is a reasonable scenario considering the motives of the Israeli government. It is too early to tell...
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I never said anything about uncovering a ploy. I said that it is a reasonable scenario considering the motives of the Israeli government. It is too early to tell...

Their motives according to you, one who uncovers ploys of war on the internet and thinks that the J00s are behind everything.
Yeah, you must know of course, you're probably an expert with a PhD from the university of literally everything after all.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

So I don't care much for this kind of false flag CT nonsense honestly.
I bet you also think the moon landing is a hoax and the Earth is flat and we're all pawns in the game of the lizard people.

I don't buy it either. It will be some local terror group.

The suspicious part will be the administration's efforts to blame it on Iran, much the way Bush &Co tried to pin 9/11 on Saddam.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I don't buy it either. It will be some local terror group.

The suspicious part will be the administration's efforts to blame it on Iran, much the way Bush &Co tried to pin 9/11 on Saddam.

Only that Saddam never did something like 9/11, and Iran has been waging a war through proxy terror groups on Western and Sunni targets for ages now, so this attack is not something unique at all.
When you point at someone and blame them for something they've never done before, it's pretty different than doing so with someone who's been doing this literally hundreds of thousands of times, even now as we're discussing here.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

Their motives according to you, one who uncovers ploys of war on the internet and thinks that the J00s are behind everything.
Yeah, you must know of course, you're probably an expert with a PhD from the university of literally everything after all.

I di not think that the "joos" are behind everything. I think some Israelis like you use such nonsense to promote their national interests. If you were a poster from Saudi Arabia, I would have told you that it is also possible that this may e a false flag operation of Saudi Arabia, since SA, just like Iran, has a very strong motive to see Iran attacked. As usual, you play the antisemitism card.

Predictable...
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I am not the one who is excited. If you noticed, I did not categorically or forcefully pushed the scenario of a false flag operation. I said that it is a very plausible scenario. If somebody is excited, then the this is you who came here with an already assurance of what happened just a day after the event. And since your profile shows that you are in Israel, I can easily see your excitement to persuade us to go after Iran.

What stupid **** is this... all Israel wants is to be left alone.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I never said anything about uncovering a ploy. I said that it is a reasonable scenario considering the motives of the Israeli government. It is too early to tell...

I don't believe the current Israeli govt would pull a false flag to gin up hostilities against Iran, but like John Bolton, they'll be looking to exploit any excuse. If the attack was not carried out by Iran, they'll be pushing the idea that it was.
 
Re: 2 oil tankers damaged in suspected attack in the Gulf of Oman, crew evacuated

I don't buy it either. It will be some local terror group.

The suspicious part will be the administration's efforts to blame it on Iran, much the way Bush &Co tried to pin 9/11 on Saddam.

There are many logical plausibilities. I find it interesting that the name Saudi Arabia was not mentioned up until now! AsI aid, they have a strong motive, not to mention that recent history shows that they can get away with horrible acts.

In any case, I will not form opinions based on Pompei and people like Bolton who now serve the administration. I will pay more attention to what the counties whose ships were actually attacked will say about the issue. If I recall well, one tanker was japanese and the other was Norwegian. I will actually pay more attention to the Norwegians since the Japanese are sooo scared with North Korea they may be willing to play along with whatever the Trump administration wants to do.

If the US intelligence has information that Iran is behind it, they can certainly share it with those countries and we will se if they will convince their allies. If we end up with a scenario in which the US says that Iran was behind it and the actual victims of such attack have reservations, I will go with what the other countries say, just like I did with the Iraqi invasion.
 
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