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U.S. budget deficit balloons to $739 billion despite tariff revenue

Wow, dude! You're really on a tear. Our "dear leader" is blowing up the deficit with his tax cuts and spending as well as harming farmers and middle class consumers by imposing tariffs (which are really taxes). I guess you're all "anti-tax" and "free traders" until your "dear leader" tells you you're not. You support law enforcement until your dear leader tells you they're all out to get him.

Hypocrisy, thy name is the modern GOP politician.

Blowing up the deficit?? Are you really this partisan and poorly informed? Feel sorry for people like you, he isn't blowing up the deficit, Obama did that by adding 9.3 trillion to the debt. Trump won't come close to that record as if you truly give a damn about the deficit. this is all about bashing Trump or any Republican to divert from the reality of what is actually happening in the country today. Your party offers the American electorate nothing but more spending, higher debt, more dependence, class envy, jealousy and lawsuits.
 
Blowing up the deficit?? Are you really this partisan and poorly informed? Feel sorry for people like you, he isn't blowing up the deficit, Obama did that by adding 9.3 trillion to the debt. Trump won't come close to that record as if you truly give a damn about the deficit. this is all about bashing Trump or any Republican to divert from the reality of what is actually happening in the country today. Your party offers the American electorate nothing but more spending, higher debt, more dependence, class envy, jealousy and lawsuits.
Are you sure?

The US posted a $234 billion budget deficit in February, the biggest one-month deficit in history.

Sounds like it is blowing up! And jobs added that month were only 56,000 oh my!



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Are you sure?

The US posted a $234 billion budget deficit in February, the biggest one-month deficit in history.

Sounds like it is blowing up! And jobs added that month were only 56,000 oh my!



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And what was the budget deficit in April??
 
Are you sure?

The US posted a $234 billion budget deficit in February, the biggest one-month deficit in history.

Sounds like it is blowing up! And jobs added that month were only 56,000 oh my!



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Yep, pretty sure what was the April deficit?
 
And what was the budget deficit in April??
Don't know don't care! One month doesn't mean anything just like your stupid April jobs number you keep posting (posting the incorrect number I might add). Jobs so far in CY 2019 average 164k, way down and debt added is projected to be 896b for the FY way up. Could be higher for the CY. I'll admit breaking that record is pretty impressive!

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And what was the budget deficit in April??
April 15 is when income tax payments are due for the previous year. It would be remarkable if there was a deficit in that month.

Notice the large surplus in Apr-2018 (paying income taxes at the 2017 tax-rates) and compare it to the much lower Apr-2019.
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Don't know don't care! One month doesn't mean anything just like your stupid April jobs number you keep posting (posting the incorrect number I might add). Jobs so far in CY 2019 average 164k, way down and debt added is projected to be 896b for the FY way up. Could be higher for the CY. I'll admit breaking that record is pretty impressive!

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Really? One month doesn't matter? then why did you post February data and since when does the deficit matter to you? Which Democrat is going to cut that deficit and focus on the debt?
 
April 15 is when income tax payments are due for the previous year. It would be remarkable if there was a deficit in that month.

Notice the large surplus in Apr-2018 (paying income taxes at the 2017 tax-rates) and compare it to the much lower Apr-2019.
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So the deficit really bothers you NOW, which Democrat is going to meet your requirements? Oh, why, taxing the rich is going to solve all the problems, right?
 
So the deficit really bothers you NOW, which Democrat is going to meet your requirements? Oh, why, taxing the rich is going to solve all the problems, right?
I advocate of a tax rate of 70-80 percent on very high incomes, which, according to Conservative is obviously crazy, right? I mean, who thinks that makes sense? Only ignorant people like … um, Peter Diamond, Nobel laureate in economics and arguably the world’s leading expert on public finance. And it’s a policy nobody has ever implemented, except the United States, for 35 years after World War II -- including the most successful period of economic growth in our history.

To be more specific, Diamond, in work with Emmanuel Saez -- one of our leading experts on inequality -- estimated the optimal top tax rate to be 73%. Some put it higher: Christina Romer, top macroeconomist and former head of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, estimates it at more than 80%. Those higher taxes could do wonders to plug deficit holes.
 
I advocate of a tax rate of 70-80 percent on very high incomes, which, according to Conservative is obviously crazy, right? I mean, who thinks that makes sense? Only ignorant people like … um, Peter Diamond, Nobel laureate in economics and arguably the world’s leading expert on public finance. And it’s a policy nobody has ever implemented, except the United States, for 35 years after World War II -- including the most successful period of economic growth in our history.

To be more specific, Diamond, in work with Emmanuel Saez -- one of our leading experts on inequality -- estimated the optimal top tax rate to be 73%. Some put it higher: Christina Romer, top macroeconomist and former head of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, estimates it at more than 80%. Those higher taxes could do wonders to plug deficit holes.

Of course you would as you have no problem taking from someone else for your own personal gain and responsibility. There is no justification for your proposals as it would never generate enough revenue to fund the liberal spending appetite and yours along with creating consequences that you refuse to accept. You don't understand the private sector at all and I cannot believe your parents taught you that someone else should always pay for your personal responsibility issues. I also bet your parents taught you about states' right and responsibilities that you are now ignoring
 
Tariffs would affect trade deficit not budget deficit. The budget deficit is so high because our government spends too much.

Yep and as is states in the OP article the trade deficit is growing as well. Thanks for reminding me!
 
I have no idea where you get your information but there is no proof of anything you are saying which is why today we are within a couple hundred points of record territory in the DOW, Record dividends were paid by S&P companies last year, all taxpayers have more spendable income so get your head out of the sand and see what is really going on in the country. The private sector will go into shock if one of the radicals running for President happen to win which by the way leads me to the question as to what the Democratic Party stands for today and what policies are they promoting that will help the private sector?

You are so clueless! You won't believe it but American BUSINESSES are running a surplus with China!

China ran a $376bn trade surplus against the US in 2017 when you look at imports vs exports. US goods exports to China are worth only a quarter of US imports from China.

However, these numbers do not capture the true size of US business interest in China. They are at odds with the fact, for example, that Chinese consumers own more active iPhones and buy more General Motor cars than US consumers do. These cars and phones are sold to China not through US exports, but through Chinese subsidiaries of US multinational enterprises.
The bilateral trade balance is misleading because (1) it does not capture the sales of goods and services by foreign firms' local subsidiaries (the FDI channel); and (2) countries such as Japan and Korea have large businesses in China that export to the US.

Our March 25 report corrected for these biases and found that US firms sold $372bn of goods and services to China in 2015, while Chinese firms sold $403bn to the US. The net balance, which we defined as "aggregate sales balance", is a surplus of $30bn from China's perspective, much smaller than the $367bn bilateral trade balance.

We estimate that from the US perspective, this balance has turned from a deficit of $30bn in 2015 to a SURPLUS of $7bn in 2016 and $20bn in 2017.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...WMAN6BAgAEAE&usg=AOvVaw2EJnKhmIvwcB04cPaeEGX-

And we could be in big trouble if we push the Chinese too far:

However, as bilateral trade tensions escalate, the large US corporate presence in China could become a critical vulnerability. As previous political spats between China and trade partners such as Japan and South Korea flared, Chinese consumers expressed their ire with retail boycotts against Japanese and Korean goods.

So far, Beijing has reined in the reaction from its state-run media even as Washington has launched fusillades of outrage. But on Tuesday such restraint appeared to slip. China???s commerce ministry complained of blackmail after Mr Trump's issued instructions to prepare tariffs on a further $200bn of Chinese exports.

If the US suffers a loss of rationality and issues a (tariff) list, China will have to adopt strong countermeasures, which will be comprehensive measures combining quantity and quality, the ministry said in a statement.

The worry now for US companies operating in China is that Beijing may respond not only with formal trade measures but also through an informal nationalist backlash. Much of China's leverage over US companies in China such as GM, Ford, Starbucks, Nike and others can be enacted informally, said Mr Wolf.

If the US is portrayed as having hurt the feelings of the Chinese people in the Chinese media, then you could see the sales of these companies getting hit not by official regulatory action but by consumer boycotts, he added.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...-T5esjdL8brzBoDvXLUh&cf=1&cshid=1560891397881

Your head is in the sand. This problem is well known.
 
You are so clueless! You won't believe it but American BUSINESSES are running a surplus with China!

China ran a $376bn trade surplus against the US in 2017 when you look at imports vs exports. US goods exports to China are worth only a quarter of US imports from China.

However, these numbers do not capture the true size of US business interest in China. They are at odds with the fact, for example, that Chinese consumers own more active iPhones and buy more General Motor cars than US consumers do. These cars and phones are sold to China not through US exports, but through Chinese subsidiaries of US multinational enterprises.
The bilateral trade balance is misleading because (1) it does not capture the sales of goods and services by foreign firms' local subsidiaries (the FDI channel); and (2) countries such as Japan and Korea have large businesses in China that export to the US.

Our March 25 report corrected for these biases and found that US firms sold $372bn of goods and services to China in 2015, while Chinese firms sold $403bn to the US. The net balance, which we defined as "aggregate sales balance", is a surplus of $30bn from China's perspective, much smaller than the $367bn bilateral trade balance.

We estimate that from the US perspective, this balance has turned from a deficit of $30bn in 2015 to a SURPLUS of $7bn in 2016 and $20bn in 2017.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...WMAN6BAgAEAE&usg=AOvVaw2EJnKhmIvwcB04cPaeEGX-

And we could be in big trouble if we push the Chinese too far:

However, as bilateral trade tensions escalate, the large US corporate presence in China could become a critical vulnerability. As previous political spats between China and trade partners such as Japan and South Korea flared, Chinese consumers expressed their ire with retail boycotts against Japanese and Korean goods.

So far, Beijing has reined in the reaction from its state-run media even as Washington has launched fusillades of outrage. But on Tuesday such restraint appeared to slip. China???s commerce ministry complained of blackmail after Mr Trump's issued instructions to prepare tariffs on a further $200bn of Chinese exports.

If the US suffers a loss of rationality and issues a (tariff) list, China will have to adopt strong countermeasures, which will be comprehensive measures combining quantity and quality, the ministry said in a statement.

The worry now for US companies operating in China is that Beijing may respond not only with formal trade measures but also through an informal nationalist backlash. Much of China's leverage over US companies in China such as GM, Ford, Starbucks, Nike and others can be enacted informally, said Mr Wolf.

If the US is portrayed as having hurt the feelings of the Chinese people in the Chinese media, then you could see the sales of these companies getting hit not by official regulatory action but by consumer boycotts, he added.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...-T5esjdL8brzBoDvXLUh&cf=1&cshid=1560891397881

Your head is in the sand. This problem is well known.

Look, post the data to support your claims or admit that this is nothing more than Trump derangement syndrome? Results matter not your opinions or those of others Results matter and the U.S. doesn't need China and China is suffering a lot more than anyone in this country. Stop buying what you are being told simply to promote hatred which the left is good at doing. 3.2% GDP growth first quarter 2019 doesn't support your claims
 
The narrative that Republicans have been trying to appease Democrats is a work of fiction. Republicans had the votes last year in both the Senate and House to pass whatever budget they wanted without Democrats, and they did.

The 'narrative' is what happened. Interesting attempt to rewrite history. As you doubtlessly know it requires more than a simple majority to move a bill through the senate.

And the article you included is from June - half a year before the budget passed. Good of you to note that House Republicans were in favor of spending cuts though
 
The 'narrative' is what happened. Interesting attempt to rewrite history. As you doubtlessly know it requires more than a simple majority to move a bill through the senate.

And the article you included is from June - half a year before the budget passed. Good of you to note that House Republicans were in favor of spending cuts though

You oversimplify things...

As you doubtlessly do not know, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Bill passed the Senate in 2017 with a 51-49 votes

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

Measure Number: H.R. 1 (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act )
Measure Title: To provide for reconciliation pursuant to titles II and V of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018.
Vote Counts: YEAs51 NAYs 49

Required For Majority: 1/2
Vote Result: Bill Passed
 
Look, post the data to support your claims or admit that this is nothing more than Trump derangement syndrome? Results matter not your opinions or those of others Results matter and the U.S. doesn't need China and China is suffering a lot more than anyone in this country. Stop buying what you are being told simply to promote hatred which the left is good at doing. 3.2% GDP growth first quarter 2019 doesn't support your claims
Well if you think Deutsche Bank, one top China research firms, is lying about American companies activity in China because they have some left wing agenda then there really is no hope for you. How is it you believe someone who has lied to you over 10,000 times and you don't believe people who actually know what they are talking about? Do you also think GM is lying about their sales? Do you really think these people are spreading left wing propoganda?

Do you not know that China is buying 28 million total cars a year and we buy 17 million? Do you really want to jeopardize American companies access to what is already the world's largest market for many products and certainly will become the world's largest economy?

Here's GM's sales by country:

• General Motors - vehicle sales by country 2018 | Statistic

If you actually want to learn something you might want to read the Deutsche Bank report on China linked in the previous post.

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Well if you think Deutsche Bank, one top China research firms, is lying about American companies activity in China because they have some left wing agenda then there really is no hope for you. How is it you believe someone who has lied to you over 10,000 times and you don't believe people who actually know what they are talking about? Do you also think GM is lying about their sales? Do you really think these people are spreading left wing propoganda?

Do you not know that China is buying 28 million total cars a year and we buy 17 million? Do you really want to jeopardize American companies access to what is already the world's largest market for many products and certainly will become the world's largest economy?

Here's GM's sales by country:

• General Motors - vehicle sales by country 2018 | Statistic

If you actually want to learn something you might want to read the Deutsche Bank report on China linked in the previous post.

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Do you like the trade deficit and the Chinese manipulation of currency that benefits Chinese companies over American? How are the tariffs hurting you and this country?

Learn why the tariffs were issued and what the goals are

Tariffs hurt, but China must be held accountable: Union Pacific CEO
 
Do you like the trade deficit and the Chinese manipulation of currency that benefits Chinese companies over American? How are the tariffs hurting you and this country?

Learn why the tariffs were issued and what the goals are

Tariffs hurt, but China must be held accountable: Union Pacific CEO
Do you really think American companies should be forced to close their Chinese factories and "bring back" those jobs to the US because that is the only way to cure the so called trade deficit? You sound like a socialist Bernie Sanders. Is that what you are advocating, government control of the means of production? That actually IS socialism. That IS what Trump is advocating. And you support him?

Apparently you still think Deutsche Bank is lying about American companies having a trade surplus with China. Do you also still think GM is lying about China being their largest customer? How about Starbucks with their 3,600 stores there and on and on. Are they ALL lying.

You've been paying too much attention to Trump again. Contrary to what the liar in chief has been telling you China is not a currency manipulator. This in spite of Trump putting pressure on Treasury to say so.

Treasury Department Declines to Designate China a Currency Manipulator - WSJ

All I can say about the tariffs is...duh. Of course the hurt every American. They raise prices so we have to pay more. Not only on Chinese goods but competing US goods. Then the government also has to borrow money to pay farmers because they can't sell their products so we are paying for that too.

"Goldman Sachs Chief Economist Jan Hatzius, in a note to clients Saturday. "First, the costs of US tariffs have fallen entirely on US businesses and households, with no clear reduction in the prices charged by Chinese exporters. Second, the effects of the tariffs have spilled over noticeably to the prices charged by US producers competing with tariff-affected goods."

This chart from Goldman Sachs shows tariffs are raising prices for consumers and it could get worse

You should change your handle to Connedservative.

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Do you really think American companies should be forced to close their Chinese factories and "bring back" those jobs to the US because that is the only way to cure the so called trade deficit? You sound like a socialist Bernie Sanders. Is that what you are advocating, government control of the means of production? That actually IS socialism. That IS what Trump is advocating. And you support him?

Apparently you still think Deutsche Bank is lying about American companies having a trade surplus with China. Do you also still think GM is lying about China being their largest customer? How about Starbucks with their 3,600 stores there and on and on. Are they ALL lying.

You've been paying too much attention to Trump again. Contrary to what the liar in chief has been telling you China is not a currency manipulator. This in spite of Trump putting pressure on Treasury to say so.

Treasury Department Declines to Designate China a Currency Manipulator - WSJ

All I can say about the tariffs is...duh. Of course the hurt every American. They raise prices so we have to pay more. Not only on Chinese goods but competing US goods. Then the government also has to borrow money to pay farmers because they can't sell their products so we are paying for that too.

"Goldman Sachs Chief Economist Jan Hatzius, in a note to clients Saturday. "First, the costs of US tariffs have fallen entirely on US businesses and households, with no clear reduction in the prices charged by Chinese exporters. Second, the effects of the tariffs have spilled over noticeably to the prices charged by US producers competing with tariff-affected goods."

This chart from Goldman Sachs shows tariffs are raising prices for consumers and it could get worse

You should change your handle to Connedservative.

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This issue really seems to bother, doesn't bother me at all. China has had a trade advantage for years and you don't seem to comprehend why nor do you care.
 
This issue really seems to bother, doesn't bother me at all. China has had a trade advantage for years and you don't seem to comprehend why nor do you care.
Your comment is exactly the problem. You want to punish China for what they have done in the past.

I understand that China has followed a path like Japan and South Korea while they were going through their developing years. Stealing intellectual property and such. But I also understand that as the others did they are changing as they mature and that is why, for example, intellectual property has fallen from the number 2 concern to the number 8 concern of American companies doing business in China.

I also understand that China unlike Japan or South Korea is already the world's biggest and fastest growing market for many American companies and that Trump's policies of trying to punish them for their past actions. may very well backfire and leave US companies out in the cold.

You say you support the private sector but American companies are in grave danger which you don't seem to comprehend nor do you care.

You have it backwards, US companies need China more than Chinese companies need the US because the Chinese market is so much bigger. GM could have ended up selling several times as many cars in China as they do in the US but that is beginning to look less and less likely.

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Your comment is exactly the problem. You want to punish China for what they have done in the past.

I understand that China has followed a path like Japan and South Korea while they were going through their developing years. Stealing intellectual property and such. But I also understand that as the others did they are changing as they mature and that is why, for example, intellectual property has fallen from the number 2 concern to the number 8 concern of American companies doing business in China.

I also understand that China unlike Japan or South Korea is already the world's biggest and fastest growing market for many American companies and that Trump's policies of trying to punish them for their past actions. may very well backfire and leave US companies out in the cold.

You say you support the private sector but American companies are in grave danger which you don't seem to comprehend nor do you care.

You have it backwards, US companies need China more than Chinese companies need the US because the Chinese market is so much bigger. GM could have ended up selling several times as many cars in China as they do in the US but that is beginning to look less and less likely.

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My problem is I understand that past and that things haven't changed. We finally have a President putting America first, sorry that bothers you so much. Trade deficit the first quarter annualized is the same as it was for 2017 a significant drop from 2018 showing that tariffs are working.
 
You oversimplify things...

As you doubtlessly do not know, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Bill passed the Senate in 2017 with a 51-49 votes

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 115th Congress - 1st Session

Measure Number: H.R. 1 (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act )
Measure Title: To provide for reconciliation pursuant to titles II and V of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018.
Vote Counts: YEAs51 NAYs 49

Required For Majority: 1/2
Vote Result: Bill Passed

That was reconciliation which requires 50%. (And again, not the budget we are talking about.)
 
Your comment is exactly the problem. You want to punish China for what they have done in the past.

I understand that China has followed a path like Japan and South Korea while they were going through their developing years. Stealing intellectual property and such. But I also understand that as the others did they are changing as they mature and that is why, for example, intellectual property has fallen from the number 2 concern to the number 8 concern of American companies doing business in China.

I also understand that China unlike Japan or South Korea is already the world's biggest and fastest growing market for many American companies and that Trump's policies of trying to punish them for their past actions. may very well backfire and leave US companies out in the cold.

You say you support the private sector but American companies are in grave danger which you don't seem to comprehend nor do you care.

You have it backwards, US companies need China more than Chinese companies need the US because the Chinese market is so much bigger. GM could have ended up selling several times as many cars in China as they do in the US but that is beginning to look less and less likely.

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Since American companies are in grave danger, how do you explain the 26,5 DOW close yesterday. How does this indicate that tariffs are hurting U.S. companies? As for China, are you also advocating Americans be paid Chinese wages?

Don't think auto sales by GM as an indication that tariffs are hurting, what is hurting GM remains GM management which is now Union controlled.
 
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