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[W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

dobieg said:
Do you just pull stuff out of your backside?

Whether or not Steele was an active agent doesn't matter. He was a foreign operative. The very thing you liberals are throwing a hissy fit over.


And you know perfectly well the RNC didn't pay for or have anything to do with the dossier.
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HIllary did not hire Steele. She hired Fusion GPS, an American firm.


Trump, on national television, invited Russia to commit espionage, and deliver the work product of that espionage to the American press.


They listened, they complied, and the President appreciated it.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
And, apparently ("Clinton campaign officials were reportedly unaware that Fusion GPS had subcontracted Steele, and he was not told that the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research."), neither did Ms. Clinton or her campaign officials, or is your source lying?

But, what the heck "That's DIFFERENT!!!" - right?
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Must be why the DNC/Clinton Campaign paid Fusion GPS through a third party. They were very much aware, tis also why the DNC/Clinton Campaign denied paying Fuison when it first became public knowledge.
 
dobieg said:
By all means, please explain the difference between hiring a foreign operative and just accepting information from a foreign operative.


Honestly, the amount of bat **** insane nonsense that comes out of the mouth of some of you is beyond head scratching.
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Hillary did not hire steele. The latter point is therefore moot.
 
Idiometer said:
Great Brittain is not an adversarial country, and they did not hack email servers or mount massive disinformation campaigns on our social media platforms. Anyone who doesn't get the difference is just as stupid as Trump, and just as un-American.

:yt
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The point is moot. Hillary did not hire Steele. She hired Fusion GPS, an American firm.


From the viewpoint of the law, that is all that matters.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Holy smoke! The claim had been Russia launched a campaign targeting the 2016 election. You heard the stories-- Russia is the great evil, Putin is the son of the devil ect ect.
Yet here you are blindly accepting Russian sources as long as they were channeled by Steele ( he isn't the source. He hasn't been in Russia in 20 years). Why are you accepting the legitimacy of such information?
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The hired investigator was FORMERLY an intel officer of an ALLY. Who specialized in Russian intel. Yeah I trust that source quit a bit more than pledging fealty to trump bending over to Putin like you do.

You clearly hate America. Why is that Ath?
 
DiAnna said:
This "story" was debunked as a lie years ago, and you've brought it back for no other reason than to derail a Breaking News thread about real Breaking News from today.
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At this point, the supporters of this administration have zero credibility.

They are unrepentant liars no differently than Trump himself.
 
danarhea said:
Trumpanzee: "As a Trump supporter, I'll drink a toast to that. Pass the vodka, Vladimir."
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It's disgusting. If these folks posting this **** are actually Americans, they are absolutely ****ing traitors to their country.
 
OscarLevant said:
The point is moot. Hillary did not hire Steele. She hired Fusion GPS, an American firm.


From the viewpoint of the law, that is all that matters.
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There's no evidence I'm aware of that Clinton herself directed the research done by Steele.
 
OscarLevant said:
Trump, on national television, invited Russia to commit espionage, and deliver the work product of that espionage to the American press.

They listened, they complied, and the President appreciated it.
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And now the President of the United States just said he'd do it again.
 
pamak said:
We are talking about the morality of using a Russian to get information. My point is that just because a source may be foreigner does not necessarily mean that it is immoral or wrong to use him. It is lame to try to equate the case of a Russian who is giving information ON BEHALF of his government to advance its policies to a Russian who is leaking information about the Russian government.
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When it comes to Trump accepting help ( a thing of value) from a foreign agent, it is illegal ( campaign laws ) and that is that.

Because Hillary did not hire Steele, she hired Fusion GPS, she did nothing illegal.

Though Fusion hired Steele, Steele, after realizing what he had uncovered, he took it to Senator McCain, who took it to the FBI.
 
hanger4 said:
Must be why the DNC/Clinton Campaign paid Fusion GPS through a third party. They were very much aware, tis also why the DNC/Clinton Campaign denied paying Fuison when it first became public knowledge.
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Either way, its irrelevant. Clinton wasnt tying her political fortune to the bidding of a foreign government, as Trump is so willing to do.
 
j brown's body said:
Either way, its irrelevant. Clinton wasnt tying her political fortune to the bidding of a foreign government, as Trump is so willing to do.
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There was no conspiracy or coordination between the Trump Campaign and the Russians. That's a fact you really need to wrap your head around.
 
uptower said:
Well according to the law it's a crime to accept stolen goods. So the president's opinion that it's okay is wrong and if he does it he's breaking the law. If the president is allowed to redefine that law or defy it without consequences or just because he outranks someone then that means he is above the law, and is the road to dictatorship.

Short answer: 'just because he's boss' is never good enough.
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Oh? Did Trump actually say it's ok to accept stolen goods? Or, are you making **** up again?
 
dobieg said:
Oh so using a foreign intermediary to get dirt from Russia somehow makes it different.


Gotcha!!
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If Russia is dishing the dirt, we can safely assume they are doing it for reasons not in the best interest of America.

If Trump believe's it is acceptable to receive such dirt, then he is committing a felony if he acts on that belief.

Hillary did not hire Steele, she hired Fusion GPS, who later hired Steele without Clinton's knowledge.

Therefore, any claims of impropriety regarding whom she hired for oppo research is without merit.
 
Mycroft said:
We aren't talking about the CIA doing it. We are talking about Clinton/DNC doing it and the FBI eagerly using it.
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Doing what?


The FBI is interested in all sorts of information that might help them solve crimes.
 
OscarLevant said:
Doing what?


The FBI is interested in all sorts of information that might help them solve crimes.
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Doing what?

Haven't you been following my conversation with pamak?
 
lurchadams said:
Yes, because refusing to impeach is just as bad as cow towing to a hostile foreign power.

Methinks your moral compass is broken.

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Not impeaching Trump is being complaisant with Trump. I think that you should worry less about my morals and more about getting a corrupt President out of office. Or are you the new moral police?
 
MTAtech said:
Moreover, Flynn and his son were conspiring to kidnap a Turkish national and deliver him to the Turkish government.

Anyone capable of looking beyond their ideological blinders can see what unpatriotic crooks the entire bunch is.
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Yeah, I know... but Hillary's emails.....
 
Athanasius68 said:
But what does this have to do with a claim that Trump and Russia conspired in the election?
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Go back and learn about what I was responding to. You post has nothing to do with it.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Not impeaching Trump is being complaisant with Trump. I think that you should worry less about my morals and more about getting a corrupt President out of office. Or are you the new moral police?
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LOL - ok pal. You're accusing the dems of being "compliant with trump". What about your buddies the GOP sycophants in congress covering for trump? What about trump refusing to turn over documents or letting witnesses pertinent to the case testify?

You need to clean up your own house before you start pointing fingers at the democrats. How delusional can one be?
 
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