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More brutal 2020 poll numbers for Trump

I have completely lost faith in polls. They're basically the same thing as waving a chicken's foot around and throwing sand. Impressive, but not in any way connected to reality, except by chance.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I have completely lost faith in polls. They're basically the same thing as waving a chicken's foot around and throwing sand. Impressive, but not in any way connected to reality, except by chance.
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I find it hilarious how the actual election is more than a year away and yet folks are already predicting doom and gloom for Trump.

Don't they remember what happened in 2016?

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Mr. Invisible said:
I find it hilarious how the actual election is more than a year away and yet folks are already predicting doom and gloom for Trump.

Don't they remember what happened in 2016?

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It does enhance the freakout of the left when he wins in the end. I hope they keep it up.
 
Plus Ultra said:
The election is too far off to be forecasted with polls right now. Lots of things could happen; Trump and Kim could have a nice summit and make an earnest deal; Iran could attack another tanker and this time people are killed; China could buckle under the tariffs; the economy could suddenly tank; we've got all sorts of investigations going on; maybe Pelosi loses control and they start impeachment proceedings...

I did read a story on how different Trump's campaign will be this time; the Trump campaign has instituted all sorts of training programs for volunteers, has a very effective small donor fundraising process, and an greatly improved "ground game", additionally this time around there's more solidarity among the Republicans. On the other hand, he campaigned as an outsider, now he stands astride that swamp. From what I gather Trump realistically confronts either Biden or Bernie. Biden is the blandest of moderates, so Trump has to position himself as more of a maverick, with Bernie (Harris, Buttigieg, Warren, Booker, Beto...) its just let them explode in their own Marxist delusion.
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LOL! "Marxist"?

You should really learn words.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I have completely lost faith in polls. They're basically the same thing as waving a chicken's foot around and throwing sand. Impressive, but not in any way connected to reality, except by chance.
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Not true, but if you believe polls must be precise to have merit you won’t like them. Well designed polls are roughly accurate but only that, the most famous (or notorious) recent example being Hillary’s predicted national vote victory and unpredicted Electoral College defeat.
 
JackA said:
Not true, but if you believe polls must be precise to have merit you won’t like them. Well designed polls are roughly accurate but only that, the most famous (or notorious) recent example being Hillary’s predicted national vote victory and unpredicted Electoral College defeat.
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It wasnt just a predicted national vote victory. They were predicting victory in the electoral college. They dont do a randomn national poll, they do state by state polls to predict the win in the electoral college. I love watching clips on the earlier returns with the talking heads on TV with their map of US States and electoral college votes won and needed to win explaining how it would be impossible for Trump to come out with a win.
 
dixon01767 said:
It wasnt just a predicted national vote victory. They were predicting victory in the electoral college. They dont do a randomn national poll, they do state by state polls to predict the win in the electoral college. I love watching clips on the earlier returns with the talking heads on TV with their map of US States and electoral college votes won and needed to win explaining how it would be impossible for Trump to come out with a win.
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Yes, what I said. Her EC defeat was unpredicted. The national daily polls that showed Hillary with a 3 to 4 point lead in the last week of the campaign were popular vote polls. There were also individual state polls and the leads Hillary held in swing states that went for Trump were all within the margins of error, just as the national polls were. I remember Ninethirtyeight showing some Pennsylvania polls in the last week that had Trump edging ahead of her.
 
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Conservative said:
Could it be that you are the one working for McDonalds that doesn't understand home deductions as it has been explained to you in post 305 along with post 310 and beyond, guess reality really bothers you for your silence is deafening. Your income tax liabilities were less in 2018 but your deductions probably changed because of deducting invalid home office expenses from your federal return.
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I don't work for McDonald's. It's another reason I'm not a Trump supporter. Unlike you and your fellow devotees, I don't need a President to take care of me.

My taxes weren't less in 2018. My husband and I make too much money. Don't be jealous.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't work for McDonald's. It's another reason I'm not a Trump supporter. Unlike you and your fellow devotees, I don't need a President to take care of me.

My taxes weren't less in 2018. My husband and I make too much money. Don't be jealous.
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Thanks for confirming how bad the education system is in the Northeast where keeping more of what you earn is the President giving us something. Your taxes weren't less because you lost deductions not because your rate was higher. I suggest moving to somewhere else where you will learn that keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift and the federal gov't shouldn't be paying for your state and local issues
 
Conservative said:
Thanks for confirming how bad the education system is in the Northeast where keeping more of what you earn is the President giving us something. Your taxes weren't less because you lost deductions not because your rate was higher. I suggest moving to somewhere else where you will learn that keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift and the federal gov't shouldn't be paying for your state and local issues
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The education system in the Northeast is great. If you had gone to college you'd know that too. Too bad you didn't even get accepted at Trump University.
 
Conservative said:
Thanks for confirming how bad the education system is in the Northeast where keeping more of what you earn is the President giving us something. Your taxes weren't less because you lost deductions not because your rate was higher. I suggest moving to somewhere else where you will learn that keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift and the federal gov't shouldn't be paying for your state and local issues
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The US spends more on HC and Education and has low rankings for both. Yep- that works
You do not retain an Empire with consistently low results in education.

U.S. academic achievement lags that of many other countries | Pew Research Center
One of the biggest cross-national tests is the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which every three years measures reading ability, math and science literacy and other key skills among 15-year-olds in dozens of developed and developing countries. The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science. Among the 35 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which sponsors the PISA initiative, the U.S. ranked 30th in math and 19th in science.
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US ediucational compared tp ther countries - Google Search
 
tres borrachos said:
The education system in the Northeast is great. If you had gone to college you'd know that too. Too bad you didn't even get accepted at Trump University.
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You want to make me the issue to divert from your own ignorance, keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift from anyone. I don't expect people like you to grasp that reality but I will tell you that you appear to be a legend in your own mind touting your income. Glad to see you found a husband that can support a McDonald employee.
 
JANFU said:
The US spends more on HC and Education and has low rankings for both. Yep- that works
You do not retain an Empire with consistently low results in education.

U.S. academic achievement lags that of many other countries | Pew Research Center


US ediucational compared tp ther countries - Google Search
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Throwing money at the problem without getting results has been a problem for years. The same holds true with social spending. Liberalism is all about feel good spending, the results be damned.
 
Conservative said:
You want to make me the issue to divert from your own ignorance, keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift from anyone. I don't expect people like you to grasp that reality but I will tell you that you appear to be a legend in your own mind touting your income. Glad to see you found a husband that can support a McDonald employee.
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Why are you talking about gifts? Did you get an email from Trump that he's going to give you a pair of his dirty tighty whities for your birthday?

My husband and I don't eat at McDonald's. That's why we don't know you.
 
Conservative said:
Throwing money at the problem without getting results has been a problem for years. The same holds true with social spending. Liberalism is all about feel good spending, the results be damned.
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For the most powerful economy on earth, ya just can't get it right. Why is that?
 
JANFU said:
For the most powerful economy on earth, ya just can't get it right. Why is that?
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This country has a lot of things right but liberalism has gone way too far. there is no discipline now, no focus on the basic, too much on outcome based education and no accountability for teachers or students. Unions are too strong and personal responsibility is always delegated to someone else. Basic civics isn't being taught nor is economics. The vocal minority is getting all the press and hard work seems to be a lost art. Want me to go on?
 
Conservative said:
This country has a lot of things right but liberalism has gone way too far. there is no discipline now, no focus on the basic, too much on outcome based education and no accountability for teachers or students. Unions are too strong and personal responsibility is always delegated to someone else. Basic civics isn't being taught nor is economics. The vocal minority is getting all the press and hard work seems to be a lost art. Want me to go on?
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Yes, you are doing a fine job of describing Trump supporters, but you left out the most important item: blaming brown people for all that is wrong in a white man's life.
 
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You forgot, Hilary's rallies had low turnout, but 67 million voted for her, 3 million more than Trump.


What you are showing us is a demographic difference, not a proof of popularity.

At least Biden did not hire people to show up at the early stages of his campaign as did Trump.

Note that far more turned out for Obama's inauguration than turned out for Trump's.
 
Conservative said:
You want to make me the issue to divert from your own ignorance, keeping more of what you earn isn't a gift from anyone. I don't expect people like you to grasp that reality but I will tell you that you appear to be a legend in your own mind touting your income. Glad to see you found a husband that can support a McDonald employee.
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There's a difference between what a middle class worker earns and keeps, than what a billionaire doesn't earn but keeps.


You righties never seem to grasp something so simple.
 
OscarLevant said:
There's a difference between what a middle class worker earns and keeps, than what a billionaire doesn't earn but keeps.


You righties never seem to grasp something so simple.
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Got it, you want to penalize the rich because they earn more? What you cannot seem to grasp is you cannot give a FIT cut to people who PAY ZERO in FIT!!
 
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