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Toyota Details Six New electric cars Models Launching for 2020 2025

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does it mean that is the end of states gas - stations (Muscovy, KSA, Gulf states, etc.) in 2025 ?



"Toyota's ambitious plans to roll out a family of new electric vehicles by 2025, which it initially announced two years ago, are being moved up. Accelerating global demand for EVs have pushed the automaker toward putting the first of these electric vehicles on sale in 2020. At an event highlighting Toyota's newly adjusted long-term electric-vehicle plans, the automaker promised it is working on six new EVs, as well as a plan for further popularizing battery-electric cars ahead of their rollout."

Photo credit: Toyota
Toyota Details Six New EV Models Launching for 2020–2025
 
does it mean that is the end of states gas - stations (Muscovy, KSA, Gulf states, etc.) in 2025 ?



"Toyota's ambitious plans to roll out a family of new electric vehicles by 2025, which it initially announced two years ago, are being moved up. Accelerating global demand for EVs have pushed the automaker toward putting the first of these electric vehicles on sale in 2020. At an event highlighting Toyota's newly adjusted long-term electric-vehicle plans, the automaker promised it is working on six new EVs, as well as a plan for further popularizing battery-electric cars ahead of their rollout."

Photo credit: Toyota
Toyota Details Six New EV Models Launching for 2020–2025

One can only hope.
 
faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice:peace
 
Gasoline, and derivatives, are going to be around till all the current 40-50 year olds are dead. Many of them are not going to buy a EV, no matter what. People trust what they know. Its why current old people, who came up in the 50s and 60s, like to drive huge land yachts for cars. Its what they know, are used to, and trust.
 
In related news...

Walmart has installed electric vehicle charging stations at more than 120 locations across the United States, the retailer said Thursday -- and plans more in the future.

Walmart partnered with Electrify America to install and operate the chargers to meet the goal of becoming the largest retail host for chargers in the country.

"This milestone marks an important moment in the expansion of our charging station network," Electrify America COO Brendan Jones said in a statement. "We look forward to continuing our work with Walmart to make electric vehicle charging faster and more convenient for consumers across the country, and in turn, encourage more adoption of zero-emissions vehicles."

The chargers are located at stores in 34 states, mostly off major highways. Dozens more chargers are planned for major metro areas. The Electrify America chargers have been installed quickly, with the first in Hope, Ark., last summer. Since then, new chargers have opened every three days, on average.

Walmart opens 120 Electrify America electric vehicle charging stations across U.S. - UPI.com
 
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Gasoline, and derivatives, are going to be around till all the current 40-50 year olds are dead. Many of them are not going to buy a EV, no matter what. People trust what they know. Its why current old people, who came up in the 50s and 60s, like to drive huge land yachts for cars. Its what they know, are used to, and trust.

If it were to take 6 hours to fill up a gas tank to drive a max of 120 miles nobody would drive such a vehicle either.
 
If it were to take 6 hours to fill up a gas tank to drive a max of 120 miles nobody would drive such a vehicle either.

I'm guessing I pay around $50 MORE per tank full than my Neighbor with Model 3. Chargers are getting more plentiful and faster.

my other neighbor just sold his Hybrid because the batteries started to drain faster...it was Infiniti Q something..to replace batteries would eventually be $12k

One issue will be reuse or disposal of old batteries once depleted ....imagine millions of batteries in future...could ship to Philippines.:doh
 
I'm guessing I pay around $50 MORE per tank full than my Neighbor with Model 3. Chargers are getting more plentiful and faster.

my other neighbor just sold his Hybrid because the batteries started to drain faster...it was Infiniti Q something..to replace batteries would eventually be $12k

One issue will be reuse or disposal of old batteries once depleted ....imagine millions of batteries in future...could ship to Philippines.:doh

Electric car batteries can be recycled and also used for regulating electricity supply and demand before being recycled.

Can Electric Car Batteries Be Recycled? | HowStuffWorks
 
Gasoline, and derivatives, are going to be around till all the current 40-50 year olds are dead. Many of them are not going to buy a EV, no matter what. People trust what they know. Its why current old people, who came up in the 50s and 60s, like to drive huge land yachts for cars. Its what they know, are used to, and trust.

It has nothing to do with age. I know several 'older' people who have moved to hybrids. (I don't know anyone that's bought a true EV). The challenge is in overcoming the shortcomings of the vehicles. Many people aren't going to by an EV until the infrastructure is further developed and they prove they can overcome the gaps in their capabilities compared to gasoline powered vehicles.
 
Gasoline, and derivatives, are going to be around till all the current 40-50 year olds are dead. Many of them are not going to buy a EV, no matter what. People trust what they know. Its why current old people, who came up in the 50s and 60s, like to drive huge land yachts for cars. Its what they know, are used to, and trust.


That's an ageist stereotype and it's incorrect. I'm one of those "current old people" and you seem to forget the environmental movement really got rolling when my generation came of age. With the exception of one thirsty muscle car when I was young and one used full-size pickup I didn't keep very long, I've never owned anything bigger than fuel-efficient mid-size sedans and mid-size pickups. I've even had a few compacts. I know plenty of folks in my generation who are the same. I'd consider an electric or a hybrid but the upfront cost still is considerably more than gas. And in the case of electric, they're not yet practical for distance driving due to limited range. I still may consider an EV for my next (and possibly last) vehicle as I don't do much distance driving nowadays. Anyway, I expect the range and cost issues will be solved eventually but we're not there yet.
 
Gasoline, and derivatives, are going to be around till all the current 40-50 year olds are dead. Many of them are not going to buy a EV, no matter what. People trust what they know. Its why current old people, who came up in the 50s and 60s, like to drive huge land yachts for cars. Its what they know, are used to, and trust.
I am in that age bracket and i am what some would inaccuratelydescribe as a climate denier and i would buy an ev.

Forgwt the polluyion aspect of things. Electric motors are easier to maintain. If they can produce adequate performance you can sign me up for an EV.

The complaint most people i talk to isnt because they are married to mechanical combustion. Tjey dont want to be forced into the only option available to them to be inferior to what they currently have.

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In related news...
Just a little factoid for you

Walmart is a leader in the energy managment field.
I am not an employee of walmart. They were a customer. Until recently i traveled the country for them. I was hired into a progam called E.B.O.P. (energy building optimization program). My role involved airconditioning, refrigeration, dehumidification, and lighting concerns. Spesking from personal knowledge i can tell you they are invested heavily in cutting edge technology.

Different stores experiment with different strategies. Not of all of them work but they are doing some remarkable stuff and without question they are among the leaders in the energy consumption frontier.

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The EV will work for an around town car, however unless you are willing to spend countless hours waiting for it to charge you wouldn't take one on the road. I have a neighbor who has a Nissan Leaf. He paid about 33K for it and says it is equivalent to what you would get for 20K in a gas model. He says it is rated for 150 miles on a charge but says 100 miles would be stretching it. That will drop as the batteries age as well. The charging stations around here charge $10 for a charge. That equates to about 10 cents a mile if you get 100 miles out of it. However you will probably not be able to actually drive more than 80 miles on a charge, so the actual cost is higher. Most states are also starting to charge a flat rate to EV drivers for road usage since they pay on gas tax. I also understand the resale value of these cars are pitiful.

In short, owning one of these vehicles will be much more expensive than an equivalent gas car.
 
Yay! Cars that use fossil fuels from power plants instead of the gas pump.
 
Yay! Cars that use fossil fuels from power plants instead of the gas pump.

I did place order for (20) new technology Nuclear Power Plants....EPA probably delay it for 20 or 30 years and we'll be on Hydrogen by then
 
does it mean that is the end of states gas - stations (Muscovy, KSA, Gulf states, etc.) in 2025 ?

Not hardly, but it may mean eventual parity with gasoline in the following years, and gas stations may very well adapt to meet the needs of the market, too.

General Motors plans to roll out eighteen BEV models between now and 2022 as well.
 
I hope manufacturers decide to go to flow batteries. You can recharge them or exchange the electrolyte at a filling station. The electrolytes are cheap. You could drive up to a station then exchange you depleted electrolyte for charged electrolytes and they charge your old electrolyte for the next customer. Making cross country travel easier.


Flow battery - Wikipedia


 
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The EV will work for an around town car, however unless you are willing to spend countless hours waiting for it to charge you wouldn't take one on the road. I have a neighbor who has a Nissan Leaf. He paid about 33K for it and says it is equivalent to what you would get for 20K in a gas model. He says it is rated for 150 miles on a charge but says 100 miles would be stretching it. That will drop as the batteries age as well. The charging stations around here charge $10 for a charge. That equates to about 10 cents a mile if you get 100 miles out of it. However you will probably not be able to actually drive more than 80 miles on a charge, so the actual cost is higher. Most states are also starting to charge a flat rate to EV drivers for road usage since they pay on gas tax. I also understand the resale value of these cars are pitiful.

In short, owning one of these vehicles will be much more expensive than an equivalent gas car.

Hate to disagree with your figures, but first, I am over the age being talked about and I am on my second EV. I have the 2018 Nissan Leaf now and constantly charge to 160 miles on charge up. The miles trade off to an average of 1:1 and that is at a freeway speed, but it also regenerates on braking and you can coast at speed for quite a distance and increase the miles traveled beyond the 160 indicated, I know because I have tracked odometer miles against charge miles and it has been as I stated. I have had no worries making a 130 mile round trip several times and got home with plenty to spare.

Mine was 34,500 dealer price, but with all the rebates available, including from the electric company and a 4k trade, my final cost was 17,500. Add to that the electric company has a special rate plan for EV owners who charge at home that is half of the standard rate, that applies to the whole house so I save on all electric used.

Many more reasons to use the EV but I believe that the future belongs to the fuel cells, hydrogen power, which is actually in the end an EV because the hydrogen is used to produce electricity. The main hold up right now is hydrogen fueling stations, but more are being built all the time.

BTW, I set the timer on the car to charge overnight so I do not worry about waiting for it, it is always ready when I get up.
 
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Not hardly, but it may mean eventual parity with gasoline in the following years, and gas stations may very well adapt to meet the needs of the market, too.

General Motors plans to roll out eighteen BEV models between now and 2022 as well.

"gas stations may very well adapt to meet the needs of the market, too." what else can sell Muscovite empire ? women ?
 
70 years of costly western involment in Middle East have failed to create a peacful, democratic and stable Middle East. So being dependent on fossil fuel cars still mean a big financial risk because of the threath of new big revolutions and wars in the Middle East.
 
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