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Elderly Trump supporter pushed to ground during London anti-Trump protest

There is not such thing as a good mob, regardless of whether it is called a protest rally. Such mob-protests never accomplish anything positive - ever - regardless of who or what it is supposedly for or against.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, SLC. :2wave:

My first thought after reading that the elderly Englishman was okay after being pushed to the ground by a group of protesters was... "why would anyone in London ever give a rat's patootie about anything Trump does?" Sheesh!
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Yeah right why would anti Trump protesters even care about Trump enough to attack an old man.
 
MTAtech said:
Didn't have access to a vid before.

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For one thing, that video looked like it was repeating the same ones over and over ... to make it look like there were more than there were?
For another thing, it looked like they were all responses to provocative actions that disrupted rallies. Is that correct?
There was nothing that called for indiscriminate antifa-like violence against anyone or anything, was there?
 
ecofarm said:
Political party is not a protected class. Your book is stupid and bigoted. You are apologizing for hate crimes.
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You've just admitted hate crimes are political crimes. Who establishes the protected class, hum? Why is there a protected class, hum?
 
bubbabgone said:
For one thing, that video looked like it was repeating the same ones over and over ... to make it look like there were more than there were?
For another thing, it looked like they were all responses to provocative actions that disrupted rallies. Is that correct?
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Ah, so it's ok to respond to verbal "disruption" with violence. Got it!

There was nothing that called for indiscriminate antifa-like violence against anyone or anything, was there?
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I don't know what antifa-like violence is.
 
justabubba said:
let's look at another incident where a tRump opponent's face assaults the fist of an old man


because the old bastard is old does not mean he was an innocent, as the above video shows
what was his intent to confront a crowd of active tRump opponents. hell, there was even a stupid antifa flag flying to let him know he was in the midst of a bunch of hoodlums
pops certainly was a willing participant in this fray UNLESS it can be shown he has dementia and wandered into that crowd by mistake
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Justabubba: "Hey guys, look! Here is a video of an old Trump supporter punching someone... so the old guy assaulted in London who is the subject of this thread had it coming!"
 
MTAtech said:
Ah, so it's ok to respond to verbal "disruption" with violence. Got it!

I don't know what antifa-like violence is.
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Acting like fascists to deter fascism.
 
At about 23 seconds of the clip, as the man was being shoved to the ground, I heard from the crowd, "If you act like that, if you act like Donald Trump, that is what you get."
 
jmotivator said:
You do realize that your asinine contribution to this thread reads like you are condoning assaulting the elderly?

Step 1) Make an idiotic statement mischaracterizing the attack as "throwing a milkshake"

Step 2) Argue that the old man wasn't a protected class therefore... what, exactly? It's OK to assault him?

Maybe you should have started with "I think this is an awful thing that was done to that old man" before launching into all the other idiocy you are contributing...
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don't you know? it's ok to assault Trump supporters now. it's "patriotic"!
 
jmotivator said:
The thread is about the assault on the old man, not the milkshake.



... Sooooo Anti-Trumpers knock an old man to the ground... but it's OK because some other anti-Trumpers helped him up? :roll:



You mean, there were fine people on both sides?
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Yeah I was impressed with the anti Trump protestor that helped the old man to his feet and patted his back. I have no problem with peaceful protestors its the violent ones that disgust me.
 
Kreton said:
Perhaps you should look into what a hate crime is. Apparently you will be surprised by the definition. He wasn't abused because he was elderly and it doesn't appear his age played any role in the crime.

You can attempt to make this an example of anti Trump violence but it is nothing compared the idiots in Trumps camp and more importantly this type of behavior is the direct result of the division and hate Trump spews on a daily basis. Trump has Americans hating Americans, left and right hating each other rather than just disagreeing. I know this happened in England but it is a ripple effect to the damage he is causing here.
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He was old and he was abused. England is looking at including crimes against the elderly as hate crimes. Here are some more examples of the "tolerant" Left.


 
cabse5 said:
Acting like fascists to deter fascism.
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Oh, I'm not condoning the attack on the elderly man. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the Trump crowd, who think it's fine to commit aggression on the opposition but whine about it when done to them.
 
MTAtech said:
Oh, I'm not condoning the attack on the elderly man. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the Trump crowd, who think it's fine to commit aggression on the opposition but whine about it when done to them.
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Exactly who here is doing that?
 
Why are there "Trump" Supporters in the UK? Shouldn't they be focused on their own failure in politics?
 
Obscurity said:
Why are there "Trump" Supporters in the UK? Shouldn't they be focused on their own failure in politics?
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Perhaps they are people who are old enough to remember WWII and want a stronger NATO. But you also should ask yourself why are there anti Trump protestors in England? Shouldn't they be focused on the failures of English politics.
 
SLC said:
Exactly who here is doing that?
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The OP's article is clearly whining about violence to them.
Trump supporters at least defacto support Trump's call for violence -- as evident by no calls from his supporters that he was/is wrong when he egged on violence against hecklers.
 
SLC said:
Exactly who here is doing that?
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You are.
And again, please answer the question:

Are you blaming people on the Left in America for the actions of someone in England?
Sure seems that way.
 
SLC said:
Perhaps they are people who are old enough to remember WWII and want a stronger NATO. But you also should ask yourself why are there anti Trump protestors in England? Shouldn't they be focused on the failures of English politics.
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Yes, they should, frankly. It's a weird fascination foreigners seem to have. How many of these pundits on youtube are from different countries.
 
SLC said:
Perhaps they are people who are old enough to remember WWII and want a stronger NATO. But you also should ask yourself why are there anti Trump protestors in England? Shouldn't they be focused on the failures of English politics.
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Trump is effectively DISMANTLING NATO for all practical purposes! You're not even making sense anymore.
 
MTAtech said:
The OP's article is clearly whining about violence to them.
Trump supporters at least defacto support Trump's call for violence -- as evident by no calls from his supporters that he was/is wrong when he egged on violence against hecklers.
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So that makes you complicit for the Steve Scalise shooting or Maxine Water's calls for public intimidation or the abundant violence from the left.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You are.
And again, please answer the question:

Are you blaming people on the Left in America for the actions of someone in England?
Sure seems that way.
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Show me where I ever blamed the Left In America for the actions of the Left in England. I'll wait for your response. :roll:
 
Hypothetical said:
don't you know? it's ok to assault Trump supporters now. it's "patriotic"!
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Rules for being a Progressive Activist:

Rule #1 - It's OK to punch Nazis.

Rule #2 - Everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi.


I can't blame them... the school system did them no favors. ;)
 
SLC said:
So that makes you complicit for the Steve Scalise shooting or Maxine Water's calls for public intimidation or the abundant violence from the left.
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Thanks your your lame attempt to find false equivalence.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump is effectively DISMANTLING NATO for all practical purposes! You're not even making sense anymore.
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Well that is a lie. The NATO Chief Stoltenberg praised Trump for getting additional funding flowing into NATO.



During a joint appearance, Stoltenberg said, “First of all, it’s great to see you again, Mr. President. And good to have you here for a summit. And we are going to discuss many important issues at the summit. Among them is defense spending. And we all agree that we have to do more. I agree with you that we have to do make sure that our allies are investing more. The good news is that allies have started to invest more in defense.”

He continued, “After years of cutting defense budgets, they have started to add billions to their defense budgets. And last year was the biggest increase in defense spending across Europe and Canada in that generation.”
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