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US makes deal with Mexico on tariffs, immigration, Trump announces

Of course you are not going to give him credit now or ever....

That's a given. You love your politics more than you respecgt our president's attempts to keep America's sovereignty, borders safely in check from some who do wish us harm.
Our country is overwhelmed right now because of the the influx of those who are claiming political asylum. MX., the first country the central American migrants step foot in should be sharing the burden until the GD Democrats cough up the funds to help us deal with the asylum crisis.

And don't you dare lecture me that this is not a crisis. I live in a border city...

The democrats would give him all the money needed to deal with the asylum crisis if he respected law and treaty.
 
It will soon become plain enough - either matters improve on the southern border or they do not. Either the rush of asylum seekers stay in the US or they get sent back into Mexico. It's hard to fake a change in that situation if none actually occurs.
And how do we know when matters improve? Who will give us the numbers? The agencies Trump gutted and replaced with his sycophants? Do we believe KellyAnne Conway? Sarah Sanders?

See the problem here?

There's really nothing we can believe anymore, with this government. That's why I believe none of it, and just wait for the day I can vote.
 
Trump has proven that the power of propaganda is powerful enough, that he could stand in front of a burning building and claim the fire was out, and his fanatics would repeat it along with him.
No ****! Today Laura Ingrahm on Fox told Trump's supporters that Trump did not say what he said. Can't make it up! But then kellyAnne Conway & Sarah Sanders have been saying the same thing for years!

(Renato Mariotti) Laura Ingraham tells her viewers not to believe what they just heard Donald Trump say.
 
Don't think I've seen this kind of anger drip off one of your posts, Chomsky.

Sounds like you've reached the point of pure disgust. :lol:
Absolutely. "Disgust", is a good word. It grows by the day. Along with fears of how it will only get worst. It's beyond hope. The only solution is to get him out of office, and let SDNY and the NY AG have him. Barr will likely take-out SDNY, but I think NY State will get him.
 
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The democrats would give him all the money needed to deal with the asylum crisis if he respected law and treaty.
You know, that's a fair point. It's no longer about the policies, but about Trump. Trump himself. He simply cannot be trusted. Best to just confine & neuter him, until he can be voted out.
 
Absolutely. "Disgust", is a good word. It grows by the day. Along with fears of how it will only get worst. It's beyond hope. The only solution is to get him out of office, and let SDNY and the NY AG have him. Barr will likely take-out SDNY, but I think MY State will get him.
The most important thing is to keep the House and win the Senate. Yes, the presidency is a crisis, but control of the both congressional chambers is the grand prize, something Gingrich taught Republicans.

Democrats need to stop worry about the 43-44% of Americans that will never vote for them, and start worrying about pleasing the 56% that gave them the House back.

Gingrich understood this. He looked at any situation and always asked "what does the base want?" and based his strategy on that. He whipped the GOP into shape and transformed them from miserable losers that hadn't held the House in a generation, to a party of front line warriors, out to please their base, and who were rewarded for it 12 years in a row.

If we have both the Senate and House, then Trump can't get jack done. He can't appoint anybody to the courts, he can't pass fascist laws, and he can't set the nations agenda. Both chambers can also use synchronized parliamentary tricks to cripple his powers, such as refusing to hold SOTU's in either chambers, and refusing to fill his cabinet with conservatives.

Food for thought.
 
The democrats would give him all the money needed to deal with the asylum crisis if he respected law and treaty.

And Trump would gladly accept that money to deal with the asylum problem if the asylum seekers would use the methods
afforded them and seek asylum in their respective countries of origin rather than rushing through border areas unprotected by wall
to jump into the hands of the border patrol to claim the asylum they seek. The democrats offered almost no money to build
the wall needed to prevent illegal crossings forcing Trump to gather funds in other ways.

All is well, Mexico signed an agreement to alleviate the problem, hopefully it will minimize illegality on the border. By the end of
Trump's first term he'll have sufficiently built most of the wall needed to deter what has happened in the last three months &
along with the Mexican agreement a sane border atmosphere will be established!
 
Succinctly stated... The sackless wonders, AKA the hateful Trump resistors ought to save what dignity they have left and :surrender
What a bunch of sorry losers!

I seriously have to question why anyone could put their politics before keeping our country safe.


Why for the "greater good" of course! (and about 100,000 new voters a month ... asylum is all the rage!)
 
They wonder why he's so powerful. It's called propaganda.

They should not cover his Tweets. If he has something to say, let him say it on camera to our eyes and ears, instead of hiding behind the internet like a *****.

Oh... getting very mad....... Trump won big and that just pisses you off! :2wave:
Bet he tweets about it!!
 
Shipping from Mexico rushed before tariff threat lifted
Shipping from Mexico rushed before tariff threat lifted

TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Before U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday abruptly suspended the threat of tariffs against Mexico, companies were rushing cars, appliances and construction materials across the border to beat Monday’s deadline.

Mexican-made tiles were piled up on the pavement next to a warehouse in New Mexico. A furniture factory and a jalapeno exporter fretted about a huge financial hit next week. And hundreds of semi-trailers carrying medical devices, televisions and Toyota pickups idled in line Friday at the truck crossing in Tijuana.

On Friday night, Trump tweeted that the tariffs were indefinitely suspended and that Mexico had agreed to take “strong measures” to stem the tide of Central American migrants heading through Mexico to the U.S.
 
Mexico reported yesterday they moved 6,000 national guard to their Southern Border; and they also began arresting immigration activists previously identified as participating in an effort to aide migrants traveling through the country.

Additionally, according to Mexican officials and negotiators working to find a solution, the Mexican government has begun freezing the financial assets of immigration groups working to undermine immigration law.
 
U.S.-Mexico Joint Declaration

The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law. Given the dramatic increase in migrants moving from Central America through Mexico to the United States, both countries recognize the vital importance of rapidly resolving the humanitarian emergency and security situation. The Governments of the United States and Mexico will work together to immediately implement a durable solution.

As a result of these discussions, the United States and Mexico commit to:

Mexican Enforcement Surge


Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.

Migrant Protection Protocols

The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.

In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.

The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.

Further Actions

Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.

Ongoing Regional Strategy

The United States and Mexico reiterate their previous statement of December 18, 2018, that both countries recognize the strong links between promoting development and economic growth in southern Mexico and the success of promoting prosperity, good governance and security in Central America. The United States and Mexico welcome the Comprehensive Development Plan launched by the Government of Mexico in concert with the Governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras to promote these goals. The United States and Mexico will lead in working with regional and international partners to build a more prosperous and secure Central America to address the underlying causes of migration, so that citizens of the region can build better lives for themselves and their families at home.

Read the US-Mexico statement on immigration that averted Trump'''s tariffs
 
Another day, another manufactured crisis avoided.
 
Yeah, that must be why MX. caved to the United State's premier negotiator in the eleventh hour.

Respectfully, but do you actually believe in the crap you are trying to sell?

America won today because the WH gave MX. a deal they couldn't refuse or it would have been economic suicide for the people of their country. Be happy for our country, but also be happy for the working Mexicans who needed their government to bend for their sake.

So, besides this one deal, what other ones has Trump successfully negotiated?
 
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The Republicans told him he can't have his tariffs because they're too costly to American consumers and they won't vote for it. So he makes up a story about Mexico 'conceding' so he can 'lift' the tariffs. In effect nothing happened at all.

I mean, he's been away on a holid...sorry 'state visit' all week. When did he even have time to handle this. there were important things to do like trolling Bette Middler.
 
And trumps poorly educated rubes bought it! :lamo

Create a crisis. Ratchet up tension. Then just drop the issue and claim it is 'resolved'. Rinse and repeat. Works every time.

"Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!"

Umm yeah, right. Details. Believe Trump tweet. Sure.
 
And how do we know when matters improve? Who will give us the numbers? The agencies Trump gutted and replaced with his sycophants? Do we believe KellyAnne Conway? Sarah Sanders?

See the problem here?

There's really nothing we can believe anymore, with this government. That's why I believe none of it, and just wait for the day I can vote.

If we could place any trust in the MSM then they could be a good source of such information.
 
You can't that's a certainty. Do you see anything that's not fact from my post. I don't see why anyone would ever expect me to back off from the truth.

Preach it Brother Slick, preach YOUR truth, hallelujah.
Let us know when you want to finish up your propaganda about the Democrats.
Or better yet, don't bother, because we've all seen this movie several times.

And now that President Donald Trump has singlehandedly solved the Mexico issue, I expect we will not have to hear another word about it from the Right. But you go ahead and finish up your rally, I'm sure the owners of the hall will let you stay another couple of hours.
 
CS, do you really believe Trump may have gotten the substantive deal he's claiming in a Tweet.

I said, "Sounds good, let's see if it works proper."
President Trump basically said that he has singlehandedly solved the Mexico problem!
So now that is off of the agenda. You and I, and all our buddies here on DP won't have to hear another word about it anymore from Camp Twumpy.
If it really really does work, tell him "good job", but hey...I think there's a few more items that need attention, quite a few.
And he's been making an awfully big mess of them so far.
If it doesn't work, remember....he SAID that we now have a deal with Mexico, and he's happy with it. If it doesn't work, then it's going to be because he DID NOT fix the problem like he says he did. He owns that puppy now.

The same as he did from NK, China, Canada, Germany? We've seen this Reality Show before, my friend. For three years! Is it possible? Anything's possible, including me winning the Lotto. Is it likely? No. It's as likely as his successes in the aforementioned countries, which is to say not at all.

Remember when he had a great time playing with his shiny brand new toy, the "national emergency"?
Remember when he had a great time playing with his shiny brand new toy, the government shutdown?
Now he has found another brand new shiny toy, the ROLLING POLITICALLY MOTIVATED TARIFF toy.

What's going to happen is that just like with those other countries, Trump will claim there's a great deal, Mexico will claim there's a great deal, the heads of the departments he placed there to control will cook the books, and his supporters will herald him a God Genius, and they'll admonish us for not believing it.

How can we believe it or not believe it when the Right has spent the last three years not even allowing us to even HAVE an opinion on it, or ON ANYTHING? Have you been shouted down and told you want utterly and completely open borders?
Have people on the Right screamed at you and accused you of wanting to help illegal aliens vote?
Have you had to put up with page after page after page of nonstop Trump Drones accusing you of hugging and kissing Antifa?
Have you been told innumerable times that you hate America, hate freedom, hate capitalism and hate the military?

We aren't allowed to have an opinion about anything unless the Right gives it to us. So the Right cannot accuse us of not believing it or anything else, because the Right isn't interested in either hearing our opinion or even allowing us to have an opinion.
But remember, it's us being accused of shutting down THEIR free speech.

S.S.D.D.

We've had three years of this nonsense. Three_long_years. And I can't wait to place my vote next year to end it.

Maybe I haven't had enough coffee this morning, but what is S.S.D.D. ?
Yeah, of course we have to stop the bleeding in 2020, and remember, we're not JUST electing a POTUS, we're cleaning out both houses in Congress, too. Do or die.

Now more coffee with my new offensive mug!

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In return for Mexico promising to "move toward" stemming the flow of people crossing Mexico and then entering the United States of America in order to make a perfectly legal (under American law) claim for asylum, all Mr. Trump had to do was to make the minor concession which would have precluded people entering the US from Mexico and making the perfectly legal (under American law) claim for asylum.

This is another YUGE victory for Mr. Trump, but the left-wing, liberal, socialist, pinko, commie, traitors are never going to admit it.
 
Nice punctuation.

Impersonation of an authorized agent of the International Grammar Police is a VERY serious offence.

You have been warned. Use of deadly force is authorized. There will be NO second warning.

Govern yourself accordingly.
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The deal was good for MX. too or the socialist president of MX. would not have made it for the workers of MX.
What kind of socialist are you not to recognize the obvious?

Boy do I have a deal for you. It's almost identical to the "Trump/DPRK Deal" and the "Trump/Mexico Deal".

If you will do what I want you to do (and do it right now), I will promise to think about maybe (in the future) possibly doing something that sort of sounds a bit like what you want me to do (but I will use my own definitions for any term in what you want me to do that I feel like defining to my advantage).

How could you possibly even think about passing up such a marvellous deal?
 
I hope that the Trump opposition is not too proud to concede, and admit that this is a good deal for our country.

Does this mean the US will take steps to stop the illegal immigrants crossing into Canada?
 
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