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A 16-year-old's MAGA hat was blurred out of his high school yearbook

Chillfolks said:
A 16-year-old'''s MAGA hat was blurred out of his high school yearbook - CNN



The mom says:

The school says:


So who do you beleive the mom that this was a deliberate act? Or the school who says it was an honest mistake?

Unless other hats were also blurred I have a hard time believing this was an accident especially with reports of people wearing MAGA clothing harassed receiving almost weekly news coverage.

If the school has a policy of not wearing political messages fine, the kids shouldn't of been allowed to wear their hats to begin with. If the picture didn't make the cut fine the boys weren't yearbook material. But putting it in and blurring it out just doesn't seem like an accident. At some point someone had to of used a photo editing software program to have the rest of the picture be so clear except for the hat. To me it seems the school district is blowing smoke and trying to cover up its poor choice.

What's your opinions?
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Tampering to cause blur is not an honest mistake.
Shame on the school for allowing the snowflakes who worked on the yearbook to have their way.
 
trixare4kids said:
The end justifies the means with some of the more desperate leftists who have lost their way.
Of course they will compare swastikas, real symbols of hate with a benign campaign slogan printed on a hat.
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The questions are (a) is it appropriate to draw lines and (b) if so, then where should the lines be drawn.

In discussing those questions, it is appropriate to give examples of symbols which may or may not be deemed to be across the line. How else are we going to come up with realistic and enforceable standards? I picked one which I thought almost everyone would agree was across the line, and one which I know to be in question.

And as noted above, there is much question about whether the confederate flag should be considered a symbol of hate.



What do you think about that? Should confederate flags be allowed on campuses or in yearbooks? If there is too much dispute about where to draw the line, then pragmatic workarounds may be deemed necessary.
 
Cardinal said:
All I can think when I see this thread is that a million species are about to go extinct due to man-caused climate change and people are upset because a kid's hat was blurred out in a school photo.
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Hear! Hear! Thank you for adding perspective.
 
Lord of Planar said:
OMG...

What does "spirit week" have to do with a hat? Why does the left have to find wrong in what might be 100% innocent? Even if planned, whose right is it to say that they shouldn't like the slogan and it is the spirit of America to be great.

So much assuming to the negative on your part.

Do you understand what bigotry is?

Please look it up in the dictionary. Do you really want to cross that line?
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Your digging in to defend you point perhaps crosses a line? You might not want to throw words around that have nothing to do with posts, only your own interpretations.

There is nothing wrong with wearing a hat. (unless it violates dress code) There is nothing wrong with editing a photo (unless it is done to make someone look foolish) Personally I think the school administration should stand behind the yearbook staff. The poor boys, if they can recover from this horrible slight, could become quite creative in their autographs for their friends. They could design their own hats. Whenever a door is closed a window opens...blah blah blah
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Which makes this nefarious as its obvious whoever edited it just wanted to rub it in instead of not including the photo.

If a republican kid was on the year book editing team and edited a "Im With Her" hat youd probably be mad even if you claim not.
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Nope, I'd think the editor did a good job. Why create a controversy over what is intended to be a happy reminiscence.

Now it might be a clever idea to include a "topics of the day" page or two where everyone could wear the hat or shirt or shoe of their liking, which might be interesting to look back at in 20 years.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Which makes this nefarious as its obvious whoever edited it just wanted to rub it in instead of not including the photo.

If a republican kid was on the year book editing team and edited a "Im With Her" hat youd probably be mad even if you claim not.
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Does it occur to you that maybe the editors liked these guys, wanted to include their candid picture as two great friends, and edited out a needless political statement? Why the assumption that it was done to "hurt" someone? It's a baseball cap with a slogan. It is not the Holy Grail.
 
Amelia said:
Nice dodge.

Do you or do you not agree that some lines should be drawn?


Oh, and many people on the MAGA side do not consider the confederate flag a symbol of hate. Trump has done a flip flop on this. He used to say confederate flags needed to go. Now he says that groups opposing the removal of confederate symbols include some very fine people. And he chose to say that about the "very fine people" at a time when the appropriate response would have been to criticize people who were marching down the street with torches, confederate flags and flags bearing swastikas.


So, since you have tacitly agreed that there are some very obvious symbols of hate which you suggest it might be appropriate to ban, the question becomes where to draw the line. And indeed it is in doubt among Trump supporters that confederate flags would be deemed to be over the line.


The obvious, logical and legal fix to this is to adopt standards which say all political messaging is off limits at school or in formal school publications because it has become so disruptive.

Much like how Texas skirted the issue of which religions' clerics are allowed in the death chamber with prisoners who are about to be executed by saying that none are. They can be in the viewing area now but none are allowed any more in the actual chamber with the prisoner.
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Still deflection onto totally unrelated items - I can't imagine any one who believes in America would ever compare the M.A.G.A to a swastika. That basically tells me all I need to know about your mind set. Have a good day.
 
Amelia said:
Nice dodge.

Do you or do you not agree that some lines should be drawn?


Oh, and many people on the MAGA side do not consider the confederate flag a symbol of hate. Trump has done a flip flop on this. He used to say confederate flags needed to go. Now he says that groups opposing the removal of confederate symbols include some very fine people. And he chose to say that about the "very fine people" at a time when the appropriate response would have been to criticize people who were marching down the street with torches, confederate flags and flags bearing swastikas.


So, since you have tacitly agreed that there are some very obvious symbols of hate which you suggest it might be appropriate to ban, the question becomes where to draw the line. And indeed it is in doubt among Trump supporters that confederate flags would be deemed to be over the line.


The obvious, logical and legal fix to this is to adopt standards which say all political messaging is off limits at school or in formal school publications because it has become so disruptive.

Much like how Texas skirted the issue of which religions' clerics are allowed in the death chamber with prisoners who are about to be executed by saying that none are. They can be in the viewing area now but none are allowed any more in the actual chamber with the prisoner.
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Do you believe in destroying symbols of history?
 
Sabre said:
Still deflection onto totally unrelated items - I can't imagine any one who believes in America would ever compare the M.A.G.A to a swastika. That basically tells me all I need to know about your mind set. Have a good day.
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And you continue to dodge. Do you think the confederate flag would be on the swastika side of the line or on the MAGA side of the line?

Is this a difficult question for you?

We know it's a difficult one for the person who brought us the MAGA hat.
 
The school did this kid a favor that he will one day appreciate as history judges this era.
 
Amelia said:
The questions are (a) is it appropriate to draw lines and (b) if so, then where should the lines be drawn.

In discussing those questions, it is appropriate to give examples of symbols which may or may not be deemed to be across the line. How else are we going to come up with realistic and enforceable standards? I picked one which I thought almost everyone would agree was across the line, and one which I know to be in question.

And as noted above, there is much question about whether the confederate flag should be considered a symbol of hate.



What do you think about that? Should confederate flags be allowed on campuses or in yearbooks? If there is too much dispute about where to draw the line, then pragmatic workarounds may be deemed necessary.
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Let me ask you if you have ever heard of Tinker vs. Des Moines? I only remember this because I participated in a thread regarding student's free speech in the schools when (on a different political forum).
Here is a link so you can learn more or revisit that ruling.
Tinker v. Des Moines - Landmark Supreme Court Ruling on Behalf of Student Expression | American Civil Liberties Union

Unless the school has a dress code policy, the MAGA logo should have remained and not blurred out by the student yearbook staff.
I can't speak for your examples other than to say wearing the symbol of the confederate flag is up to each particular school to decide when drawing up their dress code policies.

Obviously though, this particular school does allow MAGA hats to be worn since the kids have been wearing the caps to school without punishment. So, getting back to the thread premise, shame on the school for not upholding the student's first amendment rights. Recalling the yearbooks and making this error righted is going to be a lot cheaper than paying out a lawsuit should the boy(s) to decide to pursue a lawsuit; Tinler vs. DesMoines.
 
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JMR said:
Your digging in to defend you point perhaps crosses a line? You might not want to throw words around that have nothing to do with posts, only your own interpretations.

There is nothing wrong with wearing a hat. (unless it violates dress code) There is nothing wrong with editing a photo (unless it is done to make someone look foolish) Personally I think the school administration should stand behind the yearbook staff. The poor boys, if they can recover from this horrible slight, could become quite creative in their autographs for their friends. They could design their own hats. Whenever a door is closed a window opens...blah blah blah
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So do you agree now that people's interpretations differ? Why must the hat only signify negative connotations? My though is people who jump to such conclusions are very, very narrow minded.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Yeah because jobs and the economy are currently horrific.
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Did you hate Bill Clinton then? I mean the economy of the mid to late 90s was the best its been in the country's history, so surely you loved him because thats your yardstick.
 
Vadinho said:
The school did this kid a favor that he will one day appreciate as history judges this era.
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I have said many times that I would give anything if Trump's cult could read what a history textbook will say about Trump and his supporters a hundred years from now.
 
JMR said:
Does it occur to you that maybe the editors liked these guys, wanted to include their candid picture as two great friends, and edited out a needless political statement? Why the assumption that it was done to "hurt" someone? It's a baseball cap with a slogan. It is not the Holy Grail.
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Yes, I thought of the possibility and I'm sure others did too. I suspect it is more likely they wanted to include friends, but were told take it out, or lose the picture.
 
Vadinho said:
The school did this kid a favor that he will one day appreciate as history judges this era.
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Nope.
Only the kid gets to decide who does them a favor.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I have said many times that I would give anything if Trump's cult could read what a history textbook will say about Trump and his supporters a hundred years from now.
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I'll give the left this... they are the masters of hypotheticals.

Um, not.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'll give the left this... they are the masters of hypotheticals.

Um, not.
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Everyone on earth, other than 35% of Americans or so that constitute Trump's core supporters, see him as an utterly despicable human being. I assure you, that is exactly how history will judge him.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Everyone on earth, other than 35% of Americans or so that constitute Trump's core supporters, see him as an utterly despicable human being. I assure you, that is exactly how history will judge him.
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It's no reason to make someone feel bad over their choices in life.

You are enabling bullies.
 
trixare4kids said:
Let me ask you if you have ever heard of Tinker vs. Des Moines? I only remember this because I participated in a thread regarding student's free speech in the schools.
Here is a link so you can learn more or revisit that ruling.
Tinker v. Des Moines - Landmark Supreme Court Ruling on Behalf of Student Expression | American Civil Liberties Union

Unless the school has a dress code policy, the MAGA logo should have remained and not blurred out by the student yearbook staff.
I can't speak for your examples other than to say wearing the symbol of the confederate flag is up to each particular school to decide when drawing up their dress code policies.

Obviously though, this particular school does allow MAGA hats to be worn since the kids have been wearing the caps to school without punishment. So, getting back to the thread premise, shame on the school for not upholding the student's first amendment rights. Recalling the yearbooks and making this error righted is going to be a lot cheaper than paying out a lawsuit should the boy(s) to decide to pursue a lawsuit; Tinler vs. DesMoines.
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Tinker v. Des Moines has been cited multiple times in this thread, including by myself.

My initial point in this thread was that the students weren't guaranteed to have that picture in the yearbook. Their rights would not have been violated by having that photo left out. This uproar could have been avoided by simply leaving the photo in the discard pile with the thousands of other photos which were available but ultimately not included in the book.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Everyone on earth, other than 35% of Americans or so that constitute Trump's core supporters, see him as an utterly despicable human being. I assure you, that is exactly how history will judge him.
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The cow Hillary was much more despicable. She still is!
 
Have you guys even seen the picture? Its just the 2 kids with maga hats on and noone else in the picture. And they just purposely blurred out the 2 kids hats. The school just handed these 2 kids a 100,00$ lawsuit.
 
Amelia said:
Tinker v. Des Moines has been cited multiple times in this thread, including by myself.

My initial point in this thread was that the students weren't guaranteed to have that picture in the yearbook. Their rights would not have been violated by having that photo left out. This uproar could have been avoided by simply leaving the photo in the discard pile with the thousands of other photos which were available but ultimately not included in the book.
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The picture was just of the 2 kids, not a whole group spirit like you guys claimed at first. These 2 kids are about to be rich for 16 year olds. (100,000$ is alot of money to a 16 year old)
 
The school even said "We apologize. We didnt catch that this was improperly edited by someone. It is not school practice to improperly censor speech"

So all the anti-republican people in this thread can eat crow. Even the school is against your bigotry and siding with the kid.
 
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