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Morehouse College grads are surprised by a billionaire's promise to pay off their student loans

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Robert F. Smith surprises Morehouse grads with promise to pay off student loans - CNN

(CNN)Morehouse College seniors got a surprise Sunday when billionaire investor Robert F. Smith announced during his commencement speech that he would pay off the student loan debt for the historically black college's graduating class."On behalf of the eight generations of my family who have been in this country, we're going to put a little fuel in your bus," he told the newly minted graduates in Atlanta before saying his family was creating a grant to eliminate their student loans.
The announcement was met with a standing ovation and chants of "MVP!"

Awesome gesture by a very generous man.

But what about the graduate who worked three jobs so he wouldn't have student debt? What about the families who went the extra mile to pay for their kids' college?

They're out in the audience going "What the @#$%?"
 
Robert F. Smith surprises Morehouse grads with promise to pay off student loans - CNN



Awesome gesture by a very generous man.

But what about the graduate who worked three jobs so he wouldn't have student debt? What about the families who went the extra mile to pay for their kids' college?

They're out in the audience going "What the @#$%?"

The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.
 
What a ****ty thing to do by this entitled billionaire.

Why would he take away the students obligation to pay off the loan themselves?

He is denying these people the satisfaction of paying off the obligation they created for themselves.

This will not do anything for the character of any one of those graduates.
 
I have to say it helped my kids to graduate from college without any debt, and while that was my doing,
it placed them year ahead of their friends who had piles of debt.
I suspect Smith is hoping the gesture will encourage those graduates to make similar gifts.
 
A nice individual gesture in a system that is entirely screwed up.
 
The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.

Because the free market allows them to.
 
What a ****ty thing to do by this entitled billionaire.

Why would he take away the students obligation to pay off the loan themselves?

He is denying these people the satisfaction of paying off the obligation they created for themselves.

This will not do anything for the character of any one of those graduates.

when they get hit with the tax bill to pay then yes they very much will be
having to pay it off.
 
The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.

It's insane. What I'm paying for my kid to go to Texas A&M dwarfs what I paid to go to Texas. I remember back then what it cost to go to TCU or SMU. We gasped at that $17,000 per year price tag back then. Now that's a drop in the bucket to go to a good state school.

The problem is, we've taken this mantra that "every kid needs to go to college." No, they don't. They don't teach much trade or other worthwhile work skills anymore, just prep for college. Then a lot of these kids barely graduate from some random school with a sociology degree as a C-student, and they're pretty useless in the real world in terms of career-oriented, high-paying opportunity jobs. So if you ran up $80,000 in student debt, you're looking at 40 years to pay that off.

I was talking to one of the Deans at A&M, and he told me that in 2000, they had 21,000 freshmen who applied. They take 9,000 a year. Today, they get over 50,000 applicants, and they still only take 9,000. And this despite pretty clear requirements, which is either graduating top 10% of your class or scoring a 30 on the ACT (they're about to move it to top 8% or a 33). The school now has 55,000 students, which is insane, as does UT, Michigan, Ohio State, and Illinois.

More applicants shouldn't explain higher cost. I don't know what that's based on. I'm guessing "grants" that line somebody's political pockets.

And what's even worse, only about a quarter of the schools our there are true universities and colleges. The others are glorified high schools giving away useless paper degrees with virtually no value.
 
I have to say it helped my kids to graduate from college without any debt, and while that was my doing,
it placed them year ahead of their friends who had piles of debt.
I suspect Smith is hoping the gesture will encourage those graduates to make similar gifts.

This is my system, and I HIGHLY recommend it.

Get an A, and I'll pay for it.

Get a B, and we split it.

Get a C, and it's on you.

She's a 3.9 finance major, and I'm certain this helped. LOL
 
This is my system, and I HIGHLY recommend it.

Get an A, and I'll pay for it.

Get a B, and we split it.

Get a C, and it's on you.

She's a 3.9 finance major, and I'm certain this helped. LOL
In some ways Smith's gift is a good choice, People give scholarships, but unless the person
receiving the scholarship actually graduates, then the money is partially wasted.
100% of the recipients of Smith's gift will graduate from college!
 
In some ways Smith's gift is a good choice, People give scholarships, but unless the person
receiving the scholarship actually graduates, then the money is partially wasted.
100% of the recipients of Smith's gift will graduate from college!

It's a tremendous gesture. Good on him. But if I worked to put myself through college and others just did the debt thing, I'm a little bitter.
 
The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.

It makes for more malleable employees.
 
It's a tremendous gesture. Good on him. But if I worked to put myself through college and others just did the debt thing, I'm a little bitter.
I can see that, but working your way through college can also be presented favorably on your resume.
I actually think waiting on tables in college, is more important than any sociology class.

If Smith's gesture pays off it could be worth many times what he spent.
 
It's a tremendous gesture. Good on him. But if I worked to put myself through college and others just did the debt thing, I'm a little bitter.

^
This quote kind of made me chuckle a little. So he is pissed that someone made a choice to give some of his own money away. It's HIS money, and he can do whatever he wants with it. Would I have liked to have gotten a gift like that? Hell yea, but I didn't. However, you won't be seeing me harbor even one iota of bitterness that someone else got something I didn't. Instead, I will drink a toast to the man who did what Jesus would do. Kudos to him.
 
I will drink a toast to the man who did what Jesus would do.

Are you saying Jesus would reward more those that go in debt more over working harder to pay for their education?

I think that was the point to which you are replying... not the donation itself but the way it is distributed whereby higher indebtedness got rewarded more.
 
The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.

If you want to take a look at the actual financial records of most colleges, you will find that "tuition" only covers about 25% of their operating costs.

The problem is that the college's main source of revenue (sales of football and basketball tickets) simply isn't keeping up with inflation.
 
The problem with student debt has to be solved by finding out why the hell colleges are charging so much money in the first place.

That answer is known.

Administrative costs have ballooned.
 
If you want to take a look at the actual financial records of most colleges, you will find that "tuition" only covers about 25% of their operating costs.

The problem is that the college's main source of revenue (sales of football and basketball tickets) simply isn't keeping up with inflation.

Your first sentence is about right.

Your second sentence is made up by you. The #1 revenue source for a randomly selected large school, University of Michigan was from patient care ($4.2B of $7.9 Operating Expenses).
 
If you want to take a look at the actual financial records of most colleges, you will find that "tuition" only covers about 25% of their operating costs.

Your first sentence is about right.

Your second sentence is made up by you. The #1 revenue source for a randomly selected large school, University of Michigan was from patient care ($4.2B of $7.9 Operating Expenses).

Actually, it depends on the kind of school... Here are the stats:

college_revenues.jpg
 
That answer is known.

Administrative costs have ballooned.

Oh, yes...."Administrative costs".... mmmm hmmmm.....Like dozens of redundant administrative positions....

Not to mention what Ted Kennedy's little proposal to make student loans guaranteed by the Federal Government did to the cost of a 4 year degree...
 
It's a tremendous gesture. Good on him. But if I worked to put myself through college and others just did the debt thing, I'm a little bitter.

Did you graduate from Morehouse? Why would you be bitter about a very wealthy man being philanthropic with his money?
 
Did you graduate from Morehouse?

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? So, just to understand your logic here, you are saying that unless someone graduated from Morehouse, then they don't have the right to have an opinion?

Why would you be bitter about a very wealthy man being philanthropic with his money?

You did read the very first part of his post didn't you? Here, let me re post it so you can bring yourself up to speed..."It's a tremendous gesture." The part about being bitter, is in making a distinction between those who worked hard to work themselves through college, and those taking loans who now will have had their college given to them...NOT about the gentleman setting up the grant....
 
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? So, just to understand your logic here, you are saying that unless someone graduated from Morehouse, then they don't have the right to have an opinion?



You did read the very first part of his post didn't you? Here, let me re post it so you can bring yourself up to speed..."It's a tremendous gesture." The part about being bitter, is in making a distinction between those who worked hard to work themselves through college, and those taking loans who now will have had their college given to them...NOT about the gentleman setting up the grant....

Bitterness = Jealousy
 
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