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Morehouse College grads are surprised by a billionaire's promise to pay off their student loans

haymarket said:
How would you propose to fix the problem you identify with the 5th grade level education?
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Have you considered the possibility of eliminating "social passes" and actually requiring the students to have exhibited mastery of the course content before passing them on to a higher level course?

If, for example, someone "graduates High School" with only a Grade 5 reading ability, what were their

Grade 6,

Grade 7,

Grade 8,

Grade 9,

Grade 10,

Grade 11, and

Grade 12

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teachers doing other than acting as babysitters?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Have you considered the possibility of eliminating "social passes" and actually requiring the students to have exhibited mastery of the course content before passing them on to a higher level course?

If, for example, someone "graduates High School" with only a Grade 5 reading ability, what were their

Grade 6,

Grade 7,

Grade 8,

Grade 9,

Grade 10,

Grade 11, and

Grade 12

​

teachers doing other than acting as babysitters?
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I was a teacher for 33 years and have long advocated that every student learn and master every lesson before moving on. That means abolishing the grade system and letting students learn in there own way and at their own pace.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Most of that is controlled and funded at the state/local level. I suggest you go plead your case to those governments. The nonsense that everything should become a federal government matter (because they can borrow/print money?) is getting old.
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Being trapped in poverty for the crime of getting sick is getting old.
Crippling livelong debt just to get a halfway decent education is getting old.
 
Morehouse College grads are surprised by a billionaire's promise to pay off their student loans
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that's quite a generous gift. kids to him for doing that.
 
Deuce said:
Being trapped in poverty for the crime of getting sick is getting old.
Crippling livelong debt just to get a halfway decent education is getting old.
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Then I assume so is your state government's inaction - vote them out.
 
Erod said:
Robert F. Smith surprises Morehouse grads with promise to pay off student loans - CNN



Awesome gesture by a very generous man.

But what about the graduate who worked three jobs so he wouldn't have student debt? What about the families who went the extra mile to pay for their kids' college?

They're out in the audience going "What the @#$%?"
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I don't think you should be working three jobs to avoid student debt. Its best to go into debt if you have to, because the sooner you get your degree, the sooner you earn good money, assuming your degree is worth it.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Have you considered the possibility of eliminating "social passes" and actually requiring the students to have exhibited mastery of the course content before passing them on to a higher level course?

If, for example, someone "graduates High School" with only a Grade 5 reading ability, what were their

Grade 6,

Grade 7,

Grade 8,

Grade 9,

Grade 10,

Grade 11, and

Grade 12

​

teachers doing other than acting as babysitters?
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They were following established precedent and building the ever advancing (socially promoted?) student's self esteem.
 
distraff said:
I don't think you should be working three jobs to avoid student debt. Its best to go into debt if you have to, because the sooner you get your degree, the sooner you earn good money, assuming your degree is worth it.
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That, of course, assumes that you graduate and have a valuable degree - it seems that 30% do not graduate thus have student debt without gaining any significant better ability to repay it.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That, of course, assumes that you graduate and have a valuable degree - it seems that 30% do not graduate thus have student debt without gaining any significant better ability to repay it.
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Then my suggestion is to graduate and to get a valuable degree. Thats what I did.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Then I assume so is your state government's inaction - vote them out.
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I'd rather do these things federally so the entire country benefits from them. That will be better for me in the long run.
 
jonny5 said:
Then why are you on a debate forum?
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Mostly for the luls. Are you mad that nobody is taking the whining about this seriously?

Maybe Rush will step in to help some of the folks at Trump university.

Sent from the Oval Office using Putin's MacBook, and Barr's Wi-Fi password.
 
Deuce said:
I'd rather do these things federally so the entire country benefits from them. That will be better for me in the long run.
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The continue to be patient since federally you must wait for many, many more folks to see things your way.
 
distraff said:
We should educate them better in high school so they are a little better at making life choices.
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Good luck with that. Have you noticed how many remedial (non-credit) classes are now offered in community colleges?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The continue to be patient since federally you must wait for many, many more folks to see things your way.
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Oh, for real? And here I was thinking the Republican party was going to mass-resign any minute now.
 
Gesture orchestrated by Smith may one day come back and financially haunt him.
 
Deuce said:
I mean he's practically a Republican so I'm gonna take a wild ass guess at "no."
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He is deemed most electable of the current herd of (announced) demorat POTUS candidates. They seem to feel the need to run an old white guy lately.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
He is deemed most electable of the current herd of (announced) demorat POTUS candidates. They seem to feel the need to run an old white guy lately.
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You need 60 solid liberals in the Senate for any of this to matter and that will happen at around the heat death of the universe because our government is literally designed to tilt power towards rural areas.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Good luck with that. Have you noticed how many remedial (non-credit) classes are now offered in community colleges?
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I'd have high school courses in:
Personal Finance: Budgeting, bills to pay, saving money.
Investment
Cars, Houses, Renting, and Insurance.
Career Choice
Job seeking
Career Success
Starting a small business

I'd also remove all government funding for fluff courses. Just a dream.
 
Deuce said:
You need 60 solid liberals in the Senate for any of this to matter and that will happen at around the heat death of the universe because our government is literally designed to tilt power towards rural areas.
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Which is even more reason for some bright blue state to bite the bullet and try taxing folks enough to make loads of stuff "free" for the 'less fortunate' in their state. When they watch those rich "liberals" vote with their feet and move to a less blue state, as hoards of the 'less fortunate flock in to get "free" stuff, then they will learn what many of us already know.
 
distraff said:
I'd have high school courses in:
Personal Finance: Budgeting, bills to pay, saving money.
Investment
Cars, Houses, Renting, and Insurance.
Career Choice
Job seeking
Career Success
Starting a small business

I'd also remove all government funding for fluff courses. Just a dream.
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I think that as incredibly useful as these courses would be, I believe that there would be a strong lobby by the credit card industry against them. If enough kids were made aware of how much it costs to pay back compound interest on credit card payments from an early age, I think many credit card companies would go out of business.
 
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