Page 7 of 10 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 91

Thread: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

  1. #61
    Guru

    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    2,925

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Their bills said to eliminate the protections that give millions of people access to coverage and care. So yes, that’s what their bills said.

    That’s also what their lawsuits say. They won’t rest until they’ve stripped tens of millions of their coverage.



    The ACA has numerous provisions addressing cost. And health care cost growth over the past decade has been the lowest on record.
    The ACA had little attempt to reduce cost, and it's key provisions increased it. Despite having 'affordable' in the title, the primary goal was to increase the number of people covered, which it did, but mostly through brute force medicaid expansion.

  2. #62
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    55,621

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Good point. One that those on the left need to hear.
    See you just proved my point again, your biased and dishonest views are part of the problem
    Quote Originally Posted by MeThePeople View Post
    homosexual conduct is what makes them homosexual
    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.
    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm not at risk for AIDS. Gays are.

  3. #63
    HoHoHo
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    06-21-19 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    58,665

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    This patient observer is still awaiting the Republican replacement for the ACA. They have yet to provide a date when it will be ready for the American public to read it.
    Trump claims he's going to release his big, beautiful healthcare plan after the 2020 election.

    And I'm sure a lot of drooling idiots actually believe him.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The FBI isn't an intelligence agency.

  4. #64
    Sage



    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    16,501

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    The GOP was not against healthcare reform. They advocated for it. There was a lot in the ACA (estimates of 90% of the bill) that had strong bipartisan support, regarding quality measures, communication standards, etc. They could have passed this and had a big win, then moved on with a discussion on addressing coverage and cost. Democrats instead pushed forward and refused to cooperate on real fixes.

    The ACA crippled itself - the exchange plans were designed poorly. It really has to be fixed before we can move forward with any significant changes. Yet rather than try to work together, Democrats are passing show bills and trying to use this as, yes, a wedge issue.
    The GOP plan to cripple the ACA was centered around defunding the taxes on the rich that paid for subsidies and weakening the individual mandate, which makes covering preexisting conditions possible.

    I see no evidence that the ACA had "strong bipartisan support. In the Senate, the bill was passed with a total of 60 votes -- 58 Democratic Party votes and 2 Independent Party votes. The House passed the legislation with 219 Democratic votes. The Affordable Care Act received 39 votes against it in the Senate, all from Republicans. One senator abstained from voting.

    The only thing that would make the ACA better (e.g. an improvement) would be bigger subsidies. Instead, the GOP, with full control of the House, Senate and White House tried to shove their version of "reform" that raised the cost to unaffordable levels on tens of millions of Americas, and overall made coverage worse.
    "I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." --J.S. Mill

  5. #65
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Last Seen
    06-08-19 @ 04:44 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Trump claims he's going to release his big, beautiful healthcare plan after the 2020 election.

    And I'm sure a lot of drooling idiots actually believe him.
    You mean the one where he specifically promised Universal Healthcare paid for by the government, and even admitted it was an "UnRepublican thing" for him to say? Hmmm, surely you jest...

  6. #66
    HoHoHo
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    06-21-19 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    58,665

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    You mean the one where he specifically promised Universal Healthcare Care paid for by the government, and even admitted it was an "UnRepublican thing" for him to say? Hmmm, surely you jest...
    That's the one.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The FBI isn't an intelligence agency.

  7. #67
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Last Seen
    06-08-19 @ 04:44 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    This patient observer is still awaiting the Republican replacement for the ACA. They have yet to provide a date when it will be ready for the American public to read it.
    They've been talking about this so called "replacement" since 2010. Nine years counting...

  8. #68
    Sage



    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    16,501

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    This patient observer is still awaiting the Republican replacement for the ACA. They have yet to provide a date when it will be ready for the American public to read it.
    What do you mean? Trump said on Feb. 27, 2017 that Republican health care will be special.



    This is what they actually produced:

    "I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." --J.S. Mill

  9. #69
    Guru

    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    2,925

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    The GOP plan to cripple the ACA was centered around defunding the taxes on the rich that paid for subsidies and weakening the individual mandate, which makes covering preexisting conditions possible.

    I see no evidence that the ACA had "strong bipartisan support. In the Senate, the bill was passed with a total of 60 votes -- 58 Democratic Party votes and 2 Independent Party votes. The House passed the legislation with 219 Democratic votes. The Affordable Care Act received 39 votes against it in the Senate, all from Republicans. One senator abstained from voting.

    The only thing that would make the ACA better (e.g. an improvement) would be bigger subsidies. Instead, the GOP, with full control of the House, Senate and White House tried to shove their version of "reform" that raised the cost to unaffordable levels on tens of millions of Americas, and overall made coverage worse.
    Several issues here:
    1) No GOP plan to 'cripple the ACA' - only to remove its more damaging aspects. It was built to fail from the start
    2) Taxes on the rich? It's taxes on the middle class. And it didn't make the plans work
    3) I said there was 'a lot in the ACA' that had strong bipartisan support. There were also several VERY problematic and VERY expensive measures added in -- which caused concern among conservatives (and others). Democrats refused to discuss or work on these.
    4) Throwing more money can fix a lot of problems -- but unfortunately there isn't a magic money tree.

  10. #70
    Sensational

    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Paradise
    Last Seen
    @
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    41,802
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    The Senate should pass a bill with the parts they like and toss it back to the Democrats in the House.

Page 7 of 10 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •