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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It's really sad when legislation like this is purposefully packaged in a way to score political points, and force political hands.

    Don't like it when either party does it.

    It's not like they are so swamped they have to combine these bills for efficiencies sake.

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    Awful when bills have multiple provisions that help people instead of just one.

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Awful when bills have multiple provisions that help people instead of just one.
    Of course you completely miss the point.

    I didn't think it was so complex that it was possible to do so.

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    LOL.. When the GOP controlled the House under Obama they voted what??? 50-60 times to de-fund ACA... But now the Dems are being accused by Trumsters of 'driving a wedge' and using this to 'play politics'?????

    It is scary to see how far Trumpsters will let Trump and the Republican cowards in Congress get away with.
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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Exactly, you made my point. What does the DoJ have to do with healthcare? In particular, William Barr, the Attorney General of the US? Barr has already shown himself to be a toadie for Trump and this goes one step further. This goes to show how far William Barr will bend over for Trump. He has no business inserting himself into the ACA debate just as he had no right to defy a Congressional subpoena. Even Susan Collins implored him two days before the DoJ filing not to interject himself into the ACA debate, that it was Congress's obligation. It's not very comforting knowing that the AG of the U.S. who is supposed to be looking out for us - the people of the US- in fact doesn't care if the law regarding pre-existing conditions gets wiped out which will cause many people to die. He doesn't care because he only cares about Trump and the GOP.

    On May 5th, the Justice Dept. filed a court brief arguing that the ACA was unconstitutional and should be struck down including the provisions for pre-existing conditions.

    Barr's Justice Dept asks court to tear down the ACA in its entirety | MSNBC

    The Trump administration's position is that the courts should do what Congress did not do, destroy the existing health care system.the

    William Barr's DOJ files the most nakedly partisan brief in history.
    William Barr is smarter than the entire Intelligence subcommittee put together. He's no one's toadie, because you clearly don't know his background. What you can't stand is that he's now doing a full cavity search on the Obama administration's Russia investigation. Something has been stinking about it for over 2 years, and he's going to find out what it is.
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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemiroff View Post
    "Dems seized it as a wedge issue"??? In what leap of nonsense? Dems are trying to increase health coverage. Its been their stated goal since step 1!

    It is Republicans who decided to dig in despite health coverage becoming increasingly popular amongst their constituents (but not the people they actually represent). This is just embarrassing as the only 1st world country that "cant afford it". We're supposed to be the greatest...
    Too bad they are so short sided to see that absolutely everyone must pay federal taxes to pay for it. Dems want to give health care to all the illegals. They are on the path to destroying Medicare.

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    They're trying to take it from tens of millions of Americans. (Texas v. Azar)

    Very on-brand, as with the GOP members of the House virulently opposing helping people get coverage or protecting people with pre-existing conditions last night.
    I'm sure you take that story was gospel. This is nothing more than Dems trying to save Obamacare; a healthcare insurance plan that NEVER kept its promise of inexpensive insurance. It was a total flop, and everyone knows it.
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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    "The process" (multi-day committee markups) started several weeks ago and culminated in floor debate yesterday.

    Markup of H.R. 1644, H.R. 1781, H.R. 938, H.R. 1520, H.R. 1503, H.R. 1499, H.R. 965, H.R. 1385, H.R. 1386, H.R. 987, H.R. 1010, H.R. 986, H.R. 1425, H.R. 9, Full Committee (April 3-4, 2019)

    And no, it's not horrible policy. It's good policy. The GOP just finds helping people get coverage extremely offensive, it seems.
    As you demonstrate with this post, it's not about helping people or creating good policy, but about scoring political points. If this was a serious bill it wouldn't have been completed in a few weeks.

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    [FONT="]Its a viable bill, duly passed by the House, who Republicans charge is only interested in stopping Trump. The bill makes sense and helps Americans. There is no rational reason Republican Senators, who care about their constituents, as opposed to their donors, should reject it. [/FONT]
    Nope. It's DOA - which is why they spent so little time on it, and made no attempt to get bipartisan support.

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    “Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come
    when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict
    the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to
    others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special
    privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.” -Benjamin Rush

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    Re: Dems push bill on health care, drug prices through House

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    As you demonstrate with this post, it's not about helping people or creating good policy, but about scoring political points. If this was a serious bill it wouldn't have been completed in a few weeks.
    Why not? Hearings in Feb and March, markups in April, six weeks for members to review, floor debate and amendments/votes in May. Regular order all the way. This isn’t rocket science. And it had the votes.

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