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US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror

TU Curmudgeon

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From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
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The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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TU Curmudgeon said:
From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
​

The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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Bernie Sanders wants the Boston bomber to vote!
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
​

The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
​
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So very, very wrong.

They're defending free speech.

Period.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
​

The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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If this were a synagogue, instead of a mosque, this would be done already.
 
OlNate said:
If this were a synagogue, instead of a mosque, this would be done already.
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Also very, very wrong.

We had an attack on a synagogue here, and the president did his job.

That job is to protect and defend the Constitution.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Also very, very wrong.

We had an attack on a synagogue here, and the president did his job.

That job is to protect and defend the Constitution.
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Yeah, yeah, everyone's wrong except for you. We good for this thread now? lol...
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
​

The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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What does this commitment actually mean?

In a statement, Facebook said that anyone sharing "violating content" like a statement from a terrorist group without context would be blocked from using Facebook Live for a set period, such as 30 days.
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Crystal said:
Bernie Sanders wants the Boston bomber to vote!
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Congratulations on winning this thread's Whataboutism award in the very first post after the OP! :bravo:
 
3leftsdoo said:
So very, very wrong.

They're defending free speech.

Period.
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So you absolutely support the right of people to chant "Kill The Cops" and/or "Whitey Must Die" (1st Amendment Right) as well as their right to wave fully automatic weapons around (2nd Amendment Right) when demonstrating do you?

What's your position on the practice of "Baal Worship" - including all of the traditional rites associated with it (1st Amendment Right)?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
What does this commitment actually mean?
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After intensive research (I typed "christchurch call full text" into Google) I am able to answer your question.

Unfortunately the document is too long to fit within the character allotment and I'm not about to spoon feed you, so you will have to go to THIS LINK to read it.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
So you absolutely support the right of people to chant "Kill The Cops" and/or "Whitey Must Die" (1st Amendment Right) as well as their right to wave fully automatic weapons around (2nd Amendment Right) when demonstrating do you?

What's your position on the practice of "Baal Worship" - including all of the traditional rites associated with it (1st Amendment Right)?
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Generally speaking, but brandishing? Probably not.

Worship is fine; sacrifice may not be.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
After intensive research (I typed "christchurch call full text" into Google) I am able to answer your question.

Unfortunately the document is too long to fit within the character allotment and I'm not about to spoon feed you, so you will have to go to THIS LINK to read it.
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Appalling restrictions on speech.

But the Strayan PM is HOT.

:yes:
 
OlNate said:
If this were a synagogue, instead of a mosque, this would be done already.
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Well, it was a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Nothing was done.
 
HumblePi said:
Well, it was a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Nothing was done.
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Depends on what you consider to be nothing done. Pence was all over an anti-Semitism bill that went a little sideways, I seem to recall...much to the chagrin of the folks behind it.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From the BBC

US says it will not join Christchurch Call against online terror
​

The US has declined to join an international initiative aimed at tackling the spread of terror online.

The White House said on Wednesday it supported the Christchurch Call's aims but was "not in a position to join", citing the need for freedom of speech.

The comments came as five of the world's biggest tech companies pledged to tackle extremist material.

The Christchurch Call was launched in response to a deadly terror attack that was live streamed on Facebook.

The March attack launched by a lone gunman on two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch left 51 people dead.

COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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When Trump publicly defends Neo Nazis and the KKK, he obviously believes they are an important part of his base. Particularly when he repeatedly refuses to denounce them, until finally the pressure grows, and he is forced to. But by that time, they know Trump has defended them as much as he could. And don't they love them some Trump.

Hail Trump: White nationalists mark Trump win with Nazi salute - BBC

One group loved Trump's remarks about Charlottesville: White Supremacists

Neo-Nazis Praise Trump's Response to Charlottesville: 'He Said He Loves Us All!'


They love Trump. Trump loves them. So I don't think this should surprise anyone.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
COMMENT:-

Mt. Trump and "Team Trump" are to be congratulated for their staunch defence of the terrorists' First Amendment Rights.

Right?
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From the link you gave, one of the commitments made.
Ensure effective enforcement of applicable laws that prohibit the production or dissemination of terrorist and violent extremist content, in a manner consistent with the rule of law and international human rights law, including freedom of expression.
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I picked this one out because it appears to be the main contention given by some americans (trump and his ilk).

Beside the irony of trump declining to prohibit the production or dissemination of information under the guise of free speech. There is the curious point of they they think terrorism and extremist content is free speech.


The other point would be the use of wording to give meaning.

There are three separate and distinct statements being made here.

First the constitutions wording of the freedom of speech. Which i would argue is another reason to point out how outdated and in desperate need of revisal the american constitution is.

The second is the wording of this christchurch document, freedom of expression. I would argue a far better wording giving a more consistent meaning that cannot be used as the next meaning has been abused by some on this thread and americans in general.

The third used here on this thread, defending free speech. Given the context by trump and his ilk again, it means you can say anything you want and never have to face the consequences of what you say.
 
JustHanging said:
When Trump publicly defends Neo Nazis and the KKK, he obviously believes they are an important part of his base. Particularly when he repeatedly refuses to denounce them, until finally the pressure grows, and he is forced to. But by that time, they know Trump has defended them as much as he could. And don't they love them some Trump.

Hail Trump: White nationalists mark Trump win with Nazi salute - BBC

One group loved Trump's remarks about Charlottesville: White Supremacists

Neo-Nazis Praise Trump's Response to Charlottesville: 'He Said He Loves Us All!'

They love Trump. Trump loves them. So I don't think this should surprise anyone.
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Complete, unfettered nonsense.
 
Crystal said:
Bernie Sanders wants the Boston bomber to vote!
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Interesting. My dog is at the veterinarian. He's 13 years old and weighed in at 12 pounds this morning. :doh
 
JasperL said:
Interesting. My dog is at the veterinarian. He's 13 years old and weighed in at 12 pounds this morning. :doh
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He’s a punk.
 
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