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    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    AUGUSTA, Maine —Maine's Senate has approved a plan to allocate the state's four electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote, instead of the candidate who wins the Electoral College.


    An interesting approach the the real issue.

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Interesting that it's part of the pact of multiple states, but so far this pact would not have worked in 2000 or 2016...

    The pact endorsed Wednesday would only kick in if the states signed on to it achieve more than 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to win the White House.
    This makes sense!

    ... But now look at the states involved

    California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Washington, D.C, have signed on to the pact.

    The 14 states in the pact, and Washington, D.C., had electoral votes that went to Clinton in the 2016 election.
    With only blue states involved this would help a Republican if R wins popular vote but would NOT help a Democrat if D wins popular vote. I guess the idea is to get some R or flip-flop states on board...

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    AUGUSTA, Maine —Maine's Senate has approved a plan to allocate the state's four electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote, instead of the candidate who wins the Electoral College.


    An interesting approach the the real issue.
    If the existing bills still in legislation were all passed, that would move the threshold to over 270 electoral votes, and then the compact would be activated.

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by Slavister View Post
    Interesting that it's part of the pact of multiple states, but so far this pact would not have worked in 2000 or 2016...

    This makes sense!

    ... But now look at the states involved

    With only blue states involved this would help a Republican if R wins popular vote but would NOT help a Democrat if D wins popular vote. I guess the idea is to get some R or flip-flop states on board...
    I've never looked into this but I'm pretty sure it is improbable if not impossible for Republicans to win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote.
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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by Slavister View Post
    Interesting that it's part of the pact of multiple states, but so far this pact would not have worked in 2000 or 2016...



    This makes sense!

    ... But now look at the states involved



    With only blue states involved this would help a Republican if R wins popular vote but would NOT help a Democrat if D wins popular vote. I guess the idea is to get some R or flip-flop states on board...
    I'm not sure I follow your logic. If the pact had existed in 2016 then 270 electoral votes would have automatically gone to the popular vote winner, which was Clinton.

    And in any case, even if this ends up working in Republicans' favor and Trump wins the popular vote, then all that means is that he wins according to an unassailable argument, which is that it isn't a democratic principle for a minority of the country to choose the next head of state.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 05-15-19 at 04:07 PM.

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    This would be massively helpful in depolarizing the Republican party as they would have no choice but to appeal to more moderates and shuck the lunatics or never hold the presidency again.
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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Cue the inevitable and idiotic "Our founding fathers never intended for city people to choose the next president, for reasons I have no intention of sourcing" argument.

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If the existing bills still in legislation were all passed, that would move the threshold to over 270 electoral votes, and then the compact would be activated.
    you really think that's going to happen?

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    you really think that's going to happen?
    I have no idea.

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    Re: Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    Maine Senate moves to award electoral votes to popular vote winner


    AUGUSTA, Maine —Maine's Senate has approved a plan to allocate the state's four electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote, instead of the candidate who wins the Electoral College.


    An interesting approach the the real issue.
    Democrats can't win the legal way, so they cheat.

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