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American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. ...

Fletch said:
I have never said liberals are all fascists. Get your facts straight.
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I've never said ALL liberals are fascist either. I've said the Democratic Party is a fascist organization. I've stated that many or most progressives are fascists. That some liberals are too. But never ALL liberals - because that might be against forum rules. ;)
 
Tigerace117 said:
Which is not the same as presenting works claiming the Holocaust didn't happen whatsoever as legitimate, which is what Holocaust deniers want. So your little rant is utterly meaningless.

Oh really? Everything? So, say, if one was to write a book calling for all white folks to be killed, you'd advocate for that it be presented as a legitimate argument and shown to students?
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No, of course not: I might show the book to students as an illustration of some of the bad things out there. Nor would I present 'holocaust denial' as a 'legitimate' - that is sound - argument. I would point out that the evidence that the holocaust happened is overwhelming.

Now I have answered your question - why do you avoid mine? Again: should university libraries stock the works of Hitler, Mao and Stalin?
 
AmNat said:
This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.
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When they chant "six million more", it is more than just an allegation. Those people are scum....pure unadulterated scum. And here you are, defending those bastards. Sheesh. Stormfront loves 'ya.
 
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Carjosse said:
You defeat your own argument, holocaust denial is not reasonable in any way. You keep dodging the question, do you believe that flat earthers should be presented as simply having an "alternative" viewpoint too?
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As I said, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. But it saddens me that the sort of unthinking intolerance you exhibit is taking hold in certain academic disciplines.
 
danarhea said:
When they chant "six million more", it is more than just an allegation. Those people are scum....pure unadulterated scum. And here you are, defending those bastards. Sheesh. Stormfront loves 'ya.
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I suppose you can quote me defending the protestors? Or are you also lying?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Unfortunately, no.

I wish I could, but I can't.

Indeed it can, and demanding that the name of a scholarship be changed simply because the person whom it is named after was a "Holocaust Denier" is as silly as changing the name of the Hubertus Strughold Award (for Space Medicine) or the Hubertus Strughold Aeromedical Library (at Brooks Air Force Base) simply because he was a Nazi and conducted incredibly barbaric "experiments" into decompression and cold water "survival" factors or changing the name of any facility named after Werner von Braun simply because he was directly involved in working to death thousands of slave labourers while attempting to assist the Nazis to conquer the world.
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I can't get over the fact that a slaveholding genocidal pedophile serial rapist has a memorial in DC.

Th*m*s J*ff*rs*n needs his name stricken from the annals of history!
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Mostly agree with your list - BUT, the actual facts are that the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused FEWER casualties to the Japanese then the conventional firebombing attacks on cities like Tokyo that had been going on for some time AND resulted in FEWER casualties than even the most optimistic estimates of the number of casualties that would have occurred from either the Army's preferred invasion of the Home Islands or the Navy's preferred total blockade and starvation of the Home Islands.
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BUT the problem, of course, is that the Japanese were prepared to surrender on the terms they eventually did surrender under (they just wanted to keep the Emperor honored, which he and his son still are), but we REALLY wanted to out-Nazi the Nazis, so committed not one, but two of the most horrendous war crimes in human history.

If not THE most horrendous war crimes in human history.

Great men like Einstein and Eisenhower fought furiously against it, but the AmeriNazis prevailed.

So yeah, serious war crimes.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The invasion of Afghanistan was absolutely justified--- the Taliban were never going to turn over Osama and they had brutally oppressed the people of Afghanistan in the first place.

The North Vietnamese were the ones who invaded Laos and Cambodia to begin with. Had they not done so(and enabled the Khmer Rouge to come to power in Cambodia) there wouldn't have been bombing campaigns in those areas to begin with.

The Nagasaki and Hiroshima strikes saved hundreds of thousands of lives, both of allied servicemen who would have had to invade and Japanese civilians.

Saddam was a brutal thug, as was Gaddafi; both committed atrocities and Gaddafi sponsored terrorism across the globe for decades.
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Crimes against humanity are kull when the US is the perpetrator.

:hm
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Some do, some don't.

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Communists".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Anarchists".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Terrorists".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Religious Fanatics".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Mass Murderers".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Street Corner Wackos".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Violent (White) Racists".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "Violent (Black) Racists".

In some cases "desperately marginalized people" = "...
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In all cases, desperately marginalized people = People
 
Carjosse said:
It is appropriate to deal with them by shunning, deny them legitimacy because as soon as you portray Holocaust denial as a valid viewpoint it means you are saying that they could possibly be correct. That is how academia needs to deal with these kinds of dangerous conspiracy theories. It is no different than rejecting flat earthers from scientific discourse, they use the exact same tactics and ideas as flat earthers. They are crackpots: they assert that the Holocaust never happened, they accuse people of creating the Holocaust as a Jewish conspiracy and try to come up with their own easily debunked evidence, saying that those who recognize the Holocaust are merely pawns of some Jewish world order and want to undermine the White race and the greatness of Nazism. Just replace the Holocaust with a round earth and Jews with NASA and you have flat earthers.

You are advocating for holocaust denial, at best Holocaust denial is fanatical anti-semitism, at worst it is Neo-Nazism. What other possible motivation is there to holocaust denial? It is certainly not the truth. Why are you so invested in holocaust denial being recognized as a legitimate viewpoint?
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Nonsense.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
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If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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What crime did they commit? When did we lose free speech?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Crimes against humanity are kull when the US is the perpetrator.

:hm
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You claimed that we wanted to "out Nazi the Nazis".

That is not only a lie, it is a truly moronic one.

The US pumped huge amounts of aid into Japan, like the other defeated axis powers, after the war. That is not "Nazi" behavior. You seem obsessed with this fantasy that the US committed "war crimes" which, coupled with other posts you've made, makes it seem like perhaps you are simply trolling.

Take a look at the projected casualties for Operation Downfall. Allied casualties alone would have been immense. The Japanese were planning on throwing civilians at tanks armed with spears and had also set in motion a plan to try and use Unit 731 bioweapons on San Francisco.

Oh, and there was a coup attempt to try and continue the war even after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki strikes.

You circling up in a ball and going "nuh uh I want it to be war crimes" is not a valid argument.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Which is not the same as presenting works claiming the Holocaust didn't happen whatsoever as legitimate, which is what Holocaust deniers want. So your little rant is utterly meaningless.

Oh really? Everything? So, say, if one was to write a book calling for all white folks to be killed, you'd advocate for that it be presented as a legitimate argument and shown to students?
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Psssst...

Nobody tell him about X or Cleaver or Farrakhan...

:shock:
 
danarhea said:
When they chant "six million more", it is more than just an allegation. Those people are scum....pure unadulterated scum. And here you are, defending those bastards. Sheesh. Stormfront loves 'ya.
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Completely missed the point; impressive.
 
Carjosse said:
Do you think that flat earthers should also be given academic legitimacy? The key to countering holocaust denial is denying it any legitimacy.

Holocaust denial is a core tenant of modern neo-Nazism and anti-semitism.
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I don't know of anyone calling for flat-earthers to lose their free speech.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You claimed that we wanted to "out Nazi the Nazis".

That is not only a lie, it is a truly moronic one.

The US pumped huge amounts of aid into Japan, like the other defeated axis powers, after the war. That is not "Nazi" behavior. You seem obsessed with this fantasy that the US committed "war crimes" which, coupled with other posts you've made, makes it seem like perhaps you are simply trolling.

Take a look at the projected casualties for Operation Downfall. Allied casualties alone would have been immense. The Japanese were planning on throwing civilians at tanks armed with spears and had also set in motion a plan to try and use Unit 731 bioweapons on San Francisco.

Oh, and there was a coup attempt to try and continue the war even after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki strikes.

You circling up in a ball and going "nuh uh I want it to be war crimes" is not a valid argument.
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Well, Truman & his band of AmeriNazis DID out-Nazi Hitler & Co. - that'll show 'em!

And then of course the Korean meatgrinder under Herr Truman...

So yeah, Japan was ready to surrender, but war criminals gotta war criminal.
 
Grand Mal said:
Is this America becoming great again?
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What makes America great is that even detestable scum bags who spew hateful idiocy are allowed to do that without being oppressed by the government.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Well, Truman & his band of AmeriNazis DID out-Nazi Hitler & Co. - that'll show 'em!

And then of course the Korean meatgrinder under Herr Truman...

So yeah, Japan was ready to surrender, but war criminals gotta war criminal.
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Uh.....no, they didn't.

Roughly 250,000 people died over a four month period due to the effects of the two strikes.

Hitler and his flunkies murdered six million Jewish people in the Holocaust, plus numerous others from groups such as the Roma, Slavs, homosexuals, etc.

Korea resulted from the US defending South Korea from an unjustified attack by North Korea.

So yeah, the Japanese military launched a coup to try and keep fighting even after getting nuked


Kyūjō incident - Wikipedia

So your claims ring false.

But it seems increasingly clear that you are nothing more than a common troll, so expecting honesty from you is probably a lost cause.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Uh.....no, they didn't.

Roughly 250,000 people died over a four month period due to the effects of the two strikes.

Hitler and his flunkies murdered six million Jewish people in the Holocaust, plus numerous others from groups such as the Roma, Slavs, homosexuals, etc.

Korea resulted from the US defending South Korea from an unjustified attack by North Korea.

So yeah, the Japanese military launched a coup to try and keep fighting even after getting nuked


Kyūjō incident - Wikipedia

So your claims ring false.

But it seems increasingly clear that you are nothing more than a common troll, so expecting honesty from you is probably a lost cause.
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I'm rather uncommon, thank you very much. :)

But claims of trolling?

Ridiculous, baseless, nonsensical, hysterical & desperate ad hom. :)

And yeah, our war criminals aren't war criminals because they're ours.

Not MY country!

:hm
 
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