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American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. ...

Captain Adverse said:
(sigh) Red Herring.

This thread posits an issue with free expression. I never said you had to LIKE Nazis, or anyone else for that matter.

My point is that their expression, as long as it remains non-violent, is as protected as that of the other march they were "countering."

BOTH should be protected, regardless of likes or dislikes.
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Stop with the rational arguments - you're killing the thread vibe. :2mad:
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Did you know that "completely false and demonstrably so" does not quite qualify as "an alternative historical viewpoint"?

Anyone who takes the position "well, maybe, 'The Holocaust' did NOT happen" (and does so without explaining where the 15,000,000(ish) people that were no longer walking around Europe at the end of WWII had gone to) offers - at BEST - ignorant support for the Nazis and their unsuccessful attempt at genocide.
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Can you link us to the material in question, and the professor's reasons for assigning it?

Free speech can be ugly and ridiculous.
 
Fletch said:
Thats idiotic. !0 guys with flags does NOT indicate anything is wrong with a society of 330,000,000 people. It does, however, indicate there is something terribly wrong with your thinking though.
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It's not 330,000,000 people. It's Russelville, Arkansas.
Check your own thinking, Fletch. This couldn't have happened just a couple years ago and now you say it isn't even news.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I immediately thought of Canadian varmint or Moose... "fur" as some play on strange Canadian stuff.
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Beaver. Think of beaver. Canada's national rodent.
 
Grand Mal said:
Beaver. Think of beaver. Canada's national rodent.
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I was born in Corvallis... both parents were attending Oregon State, the Beavers.

... and my grand-dad was born in Beaverton, OR.
 
NWRatCon said:
I don't think anyone was saying they couldn't protest. I believe we are doing what you advocate: naming and shaming their abhorrent behavior.
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There aren't enough minutes in the universe to name/shame all the bad behavior people exhibit, and all the bad ideas we embrace.
 
Grand Mal said:
It's not 330,000,000 people. It's Russelville, Arkansas.
Check your own thinking, Fletch. This couldn't have happened just a couple years ago and now you say it isn't even news.
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WTF are you talking about? 10 people showed up. 10. Did you check their ID's? How do you know they were locals? Answer: you dont because you dont know what you are talking about. Remember the big Nazi rally in DC last year? 24 Nazis showed up. The idea that fascism is on the rise in America is nothing but another liberal lie that you have swallowed hook, line and sinker. Stop repeating leftist propaganda and start using your head
 
Fletch said:
Before you liberals lose whats left of your minds, the article says there were 10-15 Nazis who showed up.
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Literal Nazis.

Well, neo-Nazis.

There were no Nazis until Trump; he came up with the idea, you know.
 
TheParser said:
Nazis???

Puleeze!!!


Those characters are just a pathetic group of losers who have nothing else to do.


Glad to read that they were ignored, which was the correct response.


*****

What we need is a national holiday to remember ALL massacres throughout history, which (among others) would include the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking, the Rwanda genocide, the Cambodia genocide, etc.
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...the US genocide of the indigenous people, the US bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the No Gun Ri massacre, the US bombing of Laos, the US bombing of Cambodia (which led to the OTHER genocide), the US invasion of Afghanistan, the US invasion of Iraq, the US "intervention" in Libya...

Sounds like an easy sell.

:)
 
Bodhisattva said:
I was born in Corvallis... both parents were attending Oregon State, the Beavers.

... and my grand-dad was born in Beaverton, OR.
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It's like, cosmic, man!
Tell me you didn't like 'Leave It To Beaver'.
 
Trump said:
back to real news

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Omar is one of the finest members of Congress; spectacularly good. :)
 
AmNat said:
Dr. Link was not there. Thank you for continuing to demonstrate the dishonesty of the left.
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Vaginahat liberals, not necessarily the left.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Vaginahat liberals/Democrats LOVE them some free speech...

As long as it conforms to their bigoted, rigid and ill-considered views. :(
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Yes, just so you don't disagree with what others say. People are fun to observe, they will ignore one thing then get outraged over the same thing, we are just smart (sorta) monkeys, looks like we have some further development yet to do.
 
Fletch said:
WTF are you talking about? 10 people showed up. 10. Did you check their ID's? How do you know they were locals? Answer: you dont because you dont know what you are talking about. Remember the big Nazi rally in DC last year? 24 Nazis showed up. The idea that fascism is on the rise in America is nothing but another liberal lie that you have swallowed hook, line and sinker. Stop repeating leftist propaganda and start using your head
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I don't say fascism is on the rise. Soon maybe but not yet. But I do say fascism feels more comfortable about going public.
And I have no source of leftist propaganda. I'm using my head.
 
Grand Mal said:
Where'd you get that from? There's no link in the OP.
Whatever. 10 or 15 is 10 or 15 more than ever before. How should we express that? As a multiple, you'll be multiplying 0 for a long time trying to get to 1. Same with percentage- if 0 is 100% of the nazi assholes who showed up last year, how much did it increase?
You guys denying that expressions of this kind of racism and bigotry have increased in the past couple years is like those other guys denying global warming. Just because your Dear Leader says that a lie becomes the truth as soon as he utters it doesn't make it so.
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Free speech and personal choice are bad.
 
The Mark said:
No amount of crimes is enough to ban Nazis.
Legal punishment of actions by individuals or groups/organizations who are nazis, sure.

But people have a right to be in groups so long as they don't violate laws.
And a law specifically targeting Nazi's seems like a bad direction to take things.
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Too many rational people replying on this. :(
 
Tigerace117 said:
It’s not “closed minded-ness”. The Holocaust happened. It’s a historical fact. The Germans produced thousands of documents detailing the events as they happened......not to mention, of course, the accounts of survivors, the testimony of the allied troops who liberated the camps, the admissions of the camp guards and Nazi hierarchy.......

Just like we don’t teach the “ancient aliens” theory in school, neither should we teach bull**** like Holocaust denial.
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My Ancient Alien Basket Weaving professor was always saddened by such bigotry. :(
 
Grand Mal said:
No thank you very much. I suspect that what they call greatness and what we call greatness are two different things.
We already have ours and we want no part of theirs. Keep those fine people. They wouldn't like it here anyway. Too many furriners.
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Ya gotta let them know things.
Cold country, when it is 86 in Detroit, Windsor is freezing at 30.
Use the Metric
 
Carjosse said:
Do you think that flat earthers should also be given academic legitimacy? The key to countering holocaust denial is denying it any legitimacy.

Holocaust denial is a core tenant of modern neo-Nazism and anti-semitism.
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It can be discussed; it's interesting. Ideas are bad.

Challenging popular narratives is evil.
 
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