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TU Curmudgeon

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From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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I misunderstood, I thought this was a Rose Garden ceremony.... misread "Russellville." Same-same, though. Want that Steve Miller leading the march?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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Is this America becoming great again?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
​

(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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I can't find a link in your post. Where did this happen?
 
I read elsewhere that the Nazis were shouting, "six million more." They need to make up their mind, "more" means they admit that 6 million died, which is contrary to denying that it happened.

However, I'm sure they're very fine people.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
​

(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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They have the same rights to free expression as anyone else.

Why do I have to repeat this? Freedom of expression is not limited to ideas and expression we like. It expressly protects expression we do not like.

I've mentioned this before. Back when the KKK and Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, I supported the ACLU lawsuit to allow this.

Why? Because I want them out in the open, to know they still exist and have some support. To SEE them and know who I need to watch out for and to keep me motivated against allowing them any real successes in our nation.

If you muzzle them, they simply go underground, but it doesn't stop them from growing or acting.

Meanwhile, if you stop them by claiming they are too "evil" to be protected by the First Amendment, you create an insidious exception. Then where does it stop? Perhaps YOUR group declared too "offensive" to be "tolerated?"
 
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For reference, here's the article, though I can understand why the OP would've been too ashamed to actually link such a disgusting piece of propaganda:

American Nazis, white supremacists protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why. - CNN

Typical of CNN, they've linked a controversy about a scholarship at Arkansas Tech to a completely unrelated event. Basically, there's a bunch of histrionic totalitarian SJWs who want a scholarship ended because the professor whose estate is funding it is rumored to have assigned graduate students reading material presenting an alternative view of a historical event.

The narrow-mindedness of these people sometimes beggars belief.
 
AmNat said:
For reference, here's the article, though I can understand why the OP would've been too ashamed to actually link such a disgusting piece of propaganda:

American Nazis, white supremacists protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why. - CNN

Typical of CNN, they've linked a controversy about a scholarship at Arkansas Tech to a completely unrelated event. Basically, there's a bunch of histrionic totalitarian SJWs who want a scholarship ended because the professor whose estate is funding it is rumored to have assigned graduate students reading material presenting an alternative view of a historical event.
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Oh, look who shows up to defend nazis......
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From CNN
American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
​

(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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Do you ever tire of spewing out Strawman arguments? I know we get tired of them.
 
Apologies to all.

Link dropped out of the original post

Here it is

From CNN

American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
 
beefheart said:
Oh, look who shows up to defend nazis......
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This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Apologies to all.

Link dropped out of the original post

Here it is

From CNN

American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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There's no connection between the protest at the Holocaust memorial and the scholarship. CNN put them both in the same article because they're liars.

I can understand why you would be too ashamed to link to such drivel.
 
I'm sure there were good people on both sides.
 
Captain Adverse said:
They have the same rights to free expression as anyone else.

Why do I have to repeat this? Freedom of expression is not limited to ideas and expression we like. It expressly protects expression we do not like.

I've mentioned this before. Back when the KKK and Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, I supported the ACLU lawsuit to allow this.

Why? Because I want them out in the open, to know they still exist and have some support. To SEE them and know who I need to watch out for and to keep me motivated against allowing them any real successes in our nation.

If you muzzle them, they simply go underground, but it doesn't stop them from growing or acting.

Meanwhile, if you stop them by claiming they are too "evil" to be protected by the First Amendment, you create an insidious exception. Then where does it stop? Perhaps YOUR group declared too "offensive" to be "tolerated?"
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So we are supposed to "tolerate" the Nazis but it's OK to demonize the "illegals" and/or "Muslims".
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
So we are supposed to "tolerate" the Nazis but it's OK to demonize the "illegals" and/or "Muslims".
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(sigh) Red Herring.

This thread posits an issue with free expression. I never said you had to LIKE Nazis, or anyone else for that matter.

My point is that their expression, as long as it remains non-violent, is as protected as that of the other march they were "countering."

BOTH should be protected, regardless of likes or dislikes.
 
AmNat said:
This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.
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Did you know that "completely false and demonstrably so" does not quite qualify as "an alternative historical viewpoint"?

Anyone who takes the position "well, maybe, 'The Holocaust' did NOT happen" (and does so without explaining where the 15,000,000(ish) people that were no longer walking around Europe at the end of WWII had gone to) offers - at BEST - ignorant support for the Nazis and their unsuccessful attempt at genocide.
 
AmNat said:
There's no connection between the protest at the Holocaust memorial and the scholarship. CNN put them both in the same article because they're liars.

I can understand why you would be too ashamed to link to such drivel.
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And I can understand why you want to support the Nazis.
 
AmNat said:
For reference, here's the article, though I can understand why the OP would've been too ashamed to actually link such a disgusting piece of propaganda:

American Nazis, white supremacists protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why. - CNN

Typical of CNN, they've linked a controversy about a scholarship at Arkansas Tech to a completely unrelated event. Basically, there's a bunch of histrionic totalitarian SJWs who want a scholarship ended because the professor whose estate is funding it is rumored to have assigned graduate students reading material presenting an alternative view of a historical event.

The narrow-mindedness of these people sometimes beggars belief.
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It's the Nazi's who linked the holocaust event to the scholarship, not CNN.

Do you need to find Billy Roper's blog yourself, to believe it? Given your reaction to the events, I'm mildly surprised you haven't read it yet...
 
Captain Adverse said:
They have the same rights to free expression as anyone else.

Why do I have to repeat this? Freedom of expression is not limited to ideas and expression we like. It expressly protects expression we do not like.

I've mentioned this before. Back when the KKK and Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, I supported the ACLU lawsuit to allow this.

Why? Because I want them out in the open, to know they still exist and have some support. To SEE them and know who I need to watch out for and to keep me motivated against allowing them any real successes in our nation.

If you muzzle them, they simply go underground, but it doesn't stop them from growing or acting.

Meanwhile, if you stop them by claiming they are too "evil" to be protected by the First Amendment, you create an insidious exception. Then where does it stop? Perhaps YOUR group declared too "offensive" to be "tolerated?"
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I don't think anyone was saying they couldn't protest. I believe we are doing what you advocate: naming and shaming their abhorrent behavior.
 
Grand Mal said:
Is this America becoming great again?
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Before you liberals lose whats left of your minds, the article says there were 10-15 Nazis who showed up.
 
Nazis???

Puleeze!!!


Those characters are just a pathetic group of losers who have nothing else to do.


Glad to read that they were ignored, which was the correct response.


*****

What we need is a national holiday to remember ALL massacres throughout history, which (among others) would include the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking, the Rwanda genocide, the Cambodia genocide, etc.
 
exoplanet said:
It's the Nazi's who linked the holocaust event to the scholarship, not CNN.

Do you need to find Billy Roper's blog yourself, to believe it? Given your reaction to the events, I'm mildly surprised you haven't read it yet...
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Because some guy that no one ever heard of is the only or even the primary person supporting the existence of the scholarship?

It's amazing the lengths people will go to to defend CNN's dishonesty.
 
back to real news

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