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Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president, hundreds of former federal pro

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.3be3d88c2907

More than 370 former federal prosecutors who worked in Republican and Democratic administrations have signed on to a statement asserting special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings would have produced obstruction charges against President Trump — if not for the office he held.

The statement — signed by myriad former career government employees as well as high-profile political appointees — offers a rebuttal to Attorney General William P. Barr’s determination that the evidence Mueller uncovered was “not sufficient” to establish that Trump committed a crime.
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Mueller followed OLC guidance.
Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction
That said Trump would not be held to account as he owns the R Party
 
Still can not let it go! IT"S OVER!

Trump won the election and is and will be the president till the next election!
 
From Barr's letter:

The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime. Over the course of the investigation, the Special Counsel's office engaged in discussions with certain Department officials regarding many of the legal and factual matters at issue in the Special Counsel's obstruction investigation. After reviewing the Special Counsel's final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense. Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president.

It's over.... There will be no obstruction charge!
 
losers just can't accept results....

huff and puff
 
JANFU said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.3be3d88c2907



Mueller followed OLC guidance.
Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction
That said Trump would not be held to account as he owns the R Party
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Mueller made it absolutely clear in his summary of volume II that it was OLC guidelines that prevented him from even concluding a crime was committed, let alone from indicting him. So while the opinion of 370 former prosecutors puts the icing on the cake, Mueller's own words are pretty clear.
 
JANFU said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.3be3d88c2907



Mueller followed OLC guidance.
Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction
That said Trump would not be held to account as he owns the R Party
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You people really hate Trump and the economic results being generated don't you?? You will have that opportunity in 6 years as there isn't a Democrat Running that warrants a vote. Tell us exactly what any Democrat is going to do to benefit the American people like Trump has with the economy?
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Still can not let it go! IT"S OVER!

Trump won the election and is and will be the president till the next election!
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Exactly.

So long as he keeps his base energized, he's safe. Most American Conservatives are too big of cowards to do anything. LOL, look at Ted Cruz.
 
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Common Sense 1 said:
Still can not let it go! IT"S OVER!

Trump won the election and is and will be the president till the next election!
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Pretty damning report on how Trump operates eh? Asking WH staff to lie and present false statements to a Federal Investigation. All of this an official report, Americans will decide Nov 2020 if this is behaviour acceptable from a President.
 
Democrats need to get on their Donkeys and go off and lick wounds in private.

Steny Hoyer just can't get'm to mount up
 
Cardinal said:
Mueller made it absolutely clear inar.
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Blah blah blahbbbedy blah.

Don't you get ever tired of hearing yourself impotently bloviate for no reason?

LAFFFRIOT!!!!!
 
Confirmed, Trump is a criminal. We all knew this after the Mueller report was released but it's always nice to hear it again.
 
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;)
 
yankintx said:
Pretty damning report nt.
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No just the opposite. You wanted that report to lead toa criminal charge and/or a slam dunk impeachment.

It did neither.
You got DUNKED in your face by BARR.
#BOOOM
 
KLATTU said:
No just the opposite. You wanted that report to lead to criminal charge and/or a slam dunk impeachment.

It did neither.
You goy DUNKED in your face by BARR.
#BOOOM
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You must be quite proud that a criminal attorney general is protecting a criminal president.

Way to stick it to the libs! #winning #maga

:lamo
 
Verax said:
You must be quite proud that a criminal attorney general is protecting a criminal president.
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No I'm just laughing at what a big nothingburger this turned out to be.
No charges.
No impeachemnt.
#LOSERS
 
370 former federal prosecutors (Democrat and Republican) assert.....

“Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice. We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment ( ← this sentence essentially says that their conclusion is professionally obvious - RV). Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here . . . But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice — the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution — runs counter to logic and our experience.”

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What they are saying in essence is that only the office of president and OLC policy saves Donald Trump from being indicted for obstruction of justice. They also state that this conclusion is obvious to anyone with US federal prosecutor experience, and they strongly suggest that William Barr's bastardized 'interpretation of obstruction' runs counter to the standard principals and precepts of law as understood and applied in the field of federal prosecution.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Still can not let it go! IT"S OVER!

Trump won the election and is and will be the president till the next election!
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How does that change anything and is in your world winning an election a pass for criminal activity?
 
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