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Trump says he would ask Supreme Court to intervene if Democrats move to impeach him

Cardinal said:
So that's one person who doesn't think it's crazy that he may refuse to leave office.

Anybody else?
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LOL you're an idiot....and yea, I will get an infraction for that...but seriously, you are,

You list 5 things and say 2 years ago, they would have been unthinkable,

I then point out that those same 5 things have been done for YEARS, AND YEARS AND YEARS.

And you then equate that to me not thinking it's crazy he may refuse to leave....

Are you just throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks?
 
SLC said:
But Eric Holder said he was Obama’s wingman and Loretta Lynch was meeting on the Tarmac with Obama’s choice for President.
Exactly what would you have him do if the political opponents violate the law and if the investigators abuse their power or violate the law would you have them do nothing?
Congress gave up some of their purse string power to the office of the president if they don’t like it then they should change the law that they made.!
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I didn't know Bill Clinton was running for President in 2016.
 
SLC said:
But Eric Holder said he was Obama’s wingman and Loretta Lynch was meeting on the Tarmac with Obama’s choice for President.
Exactly what would you have him do if the political opponents violate the law and if the investigators abuse their power or violate the law would you have them do nothing?
Congress gave up some of their purse string power to the office of the president if they don’t like it then they should change the law that they made.!
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It was Trump that said Eric Holder was Obama's wingman and Bill Clinton wasn't eligible to run for President because he already served his 2 terms in office.:roll:
 
Cardinal said:
I know not the ways of mods, but it does seem likely.
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Yep, it's one of those, you just gotta take for the team, it's gotta be said, even though you know what's gonna happen,

Your critical thinking skills just CALLED OUT for it....so I obliged....

Tell me again how pointing out you are wrong about those 5 things happening in the past, somehow led you to believe I think Trump trying to stay in power regardless, is the same?

Can't even edit it out lol, go figure.
 
Cardinal said:
So let's look at the scoreboard:

1)Trump abolishes the traditional boundry between the White House and the DOJ. Utilizes the AG as his own personal lawyer.
2)Has called for the investigation of political opponents as well as nearly everybody who participated in an investigation on himself. For those he hasn't called for an investigation of, he's gotten them fired.
3)Has taken the position, both in word and in action, that Congressional oversight is illegitimate.
4)Has taken it upon himself to nullify the House as legitimate holder of the purse strings.
5)Has taken the position that it's not within the power of Congress to impeach him.

These five things were unthinkable two short years ago. Does anybody at this point still think the idea that he'll refuse to leave office is all that crazy?
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Let me add that he is the only candidate I can recall who refused to commit during his campaign that he would recognize the results of an election. And since he always tries to use the myth of the millions of the illegal voters who cost him the popular vote, I seriously do not see it as a far fetched scenario that if he loses he may decide to throw a tantrum and start talking about the stolen elections or asking for new ones.
 
MTAtech said:
The impeachment provision is part of the Constitution that was ratified by all the states at the time. It's the supreme law of the land. You are about 230 years late to bitch about the impeachment provision being unfair.

If a majority of the House and 2/3 of the Senate agree that a president is unfit, he/she is out according to the law of the land. That's the exact opposite of a banana republic that makes up laws as they go along -- LIKE SAYING HE WILL RUN TO THE SUPREME COURT TO OVERRULE AN IMPEACHMENT!
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Why does it matter what Trump says more than what your party is doing, running solely on everything negative and proposing nothing positive for the American people? You think Impeachment is a winning position for the Democrats? Why would anyone vote for the party that offers nothing but negativity and how does getting rid of Trump which Impeachment WON'T do solve anything? Now run away as you always do
 
sjmay said:
Yep, it's one of those, you just gotta take for the team, it's gotta be said, even though you know what's gonna happen,

Your critical thinking skills just CALLED OUT for it....so I obliged....

Tell me again how pointing out you are wrong about those 5 things happening in the past, somehow led you to believe I think Trump trying to stay in power regardless, is the same?

Can't even edit it out lol, go figure.
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In one breath you made it clear that you directed an ad hom at me and that you were just taking one for the team, and in the next breath you wish you had edited out the ad hom. Dude, make up your mind.
 
pamak said:
Let me add that he is the only candidate I can recall who refused to commit during his campaign that he would recognize the results of an election. And since he always tries to use the myth of the millions of the illegal voters who cost him the popular vote, I seriously do not see it as a far fetched scenario that if he loses he may decide to throw a tantrum and start talking about the stolen elections or asking for new ones.
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I can't believe that one already fell into the "ancient history" bucket.
 
sjmay said:
Yep, it's one of those, you just gotta take for the team, it's gotta be said, even though you know what's gonna happen,

Your critical thinking skills just CALLED OUT for it....so I obliged....

Tell me again how pointing out you are wrong about those 5 things happening in the past, somehow led you to believe I think Trump trying to stay in power regardless, is the same?

Can't even edit it out lol, go figure.
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Can you mention a single candidate other than Trump who refused to commit during his campaign that he would recognize the results of the elections? Such attitude fits perfectly to the claim that Trump sees the US as a banana republic. The legitimization of a foreign intervention is also a characteristic of banana republics.
 
pamak said:
Can you mention a single candidate other than Trump who refused to commit during his campaign that he would recognize the results of the elections? Such attitude fits perfectly to the claim that Trump sees the US as a banana republic. The legitimization of a foreign intervention is also a characteristic of banana republics.
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Probably not,

Are you telling me Trump is the only President who has used the AG for his own use, allegedly? Or fought with Congress, daily? Etc?
 
Cardinal said:
In one breath you made it clear that you directed an ad hom at me and that you were just taking one for the team, and in the next breath you wish you had edited out the ad hom. Dude, make up your mind.
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Oh let's be straight, it wasn't an ad hominen attack I directed at you, you literally, avoided the topic that you brought up, and had a severe lack of critical thinking skills show.
 
sjmay said:
Probably not,

Are you telling me Trump is the only President who has used the AG for his own use, allegedly? Or fought with Congress, daily? Etc?
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You already answered to what I am telling you by admitting that you cannot recall another candidate refusing to commit to the idea that he would recognize the results of the elections.

The last sentence is just an attempt to detract from your admission.
 
Cardinal said:
Like smj, are you another vote for "it's really not a crazy theory that trump will refuse to leave office"?
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:lol: you can't debate the topic so you turn to ad hominem attack. You FAIL!
 
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Atomic Kid said:
It was Trump that said Eric Holder was Obama's wingman
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Oh Really?:roll:

Attorney General Eric Holder brushed off a question Thursday about when he might leave the administration. Instead, the top lawman professed his allegiance to President Barack Obama.

"I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy. So we’ll see," Holder said in an interview on the Tom Joyner radio show.
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Eric Holder: 'I'm still the president's wingman' - POLITICO



and Bill Clinton wasn't eligible to run for President because he already served his 2 terms in office.:roll:
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True but Bill was there as Hillary's proxy. And even Loretta Lynch said the meeting was inappropriate.
 
trump just says anything so his base of angry white men will get........angry......
 
Conservative said:
Why does it matter what Trump says more than what your party is doing, running solely on everything negative and proposing nothing positive for the American people? You think Impeachment is a winning position for the Democrats? Why would anyone vote for the party that offers nothing but negativity and how does getting rid of Trump which Impeachment WON'T do solve anything? Now run away as you always do
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Discussions of impeachment is not an election strategy. It's a legitimate duty of Congress' oversight responsibility.

The American people threw the Republicans out of control of the House and gave it to the Democrats. That House has the power to subpoena. We have a president who unabashedly ignores subpoena and has ordered his staff to ignore Congressional subpoenas. This president's defying Congress is a clear abuse of power. Previous presidents who did the same faced impeachment.

“The Congress representing the voice of the people who just spoke resoundingly in an election should use every constitutional tool available to prevent the President from subverting the rule of law. When the President usurps the legislative powers and defies the limits of his authority, it becomes all the more imperative for Congress to act. And Congress should use those powers given to it by the Constitution to counter a lawless executive branch, or this body will lose its authority. If the President will not respect the people, Congress must.” -- Ted Cruz
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MTAtech said:
[h=1]Trump says he would ask Supreme Court to intervene if Democrats move to impeach him[/h]


I would add that the Trump tweet confirms that he has a profound lack of understanding of the constitution in general and this is merely a sample.

The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction to vacate an impeachment, should it occur. The guy really does want a banana republic.
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More evidence that Trump is a moron, and unfit for office.

No one with such a profound ignorance of the constitution should not be president. I should think future presidents be required
pass an exam to prevent ignorant know nothings like Trump from seeking the presidency.
 
Conservative said:
So you cannot win at the ballot box
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Hillary won at the ballot box. Dems kicked your butt in the house in 2018
so you overturn election results from the ballot box?
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Impeachment is in the constitution, to so complain about impeachment by characterizing it as "overturning an election", is specious reasoning.
The banana republic is what you want knowing that there is no way Trump is going to be removed from office with a Republican Senate and no illegal actions proven.
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Trump is a big fish, takes time to real a big fish in. There are 14 pending investigations, and we already have indictments, Trump as co-conspirator, and no doubt Trump will be impeached.
All you radicals want to do is prolong investigations to divert from the reality that your party has nothing positive to run on thus personality is the only issue in our favor. Nominate a candidate that isn't radical, offers something other than anti Trump rhetoric giving the reason for people to vote FOR someone else
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What is just is to remove an incompetent president who poses a greater threat to national security.

What is radical is that we have a president who is basically ignorant, who has no curiosity, who is fine being ignorant, who has authoritarian tendencies, who is demonstrably incompetent, all of these things and much much more, who is in charge of the nuclear codes.



What would be radical would be to be oblivious to the above and not care.

Dems want to provide everyone with health care, and have done much much more to that objective than Republicans, who are working tirelessly to take it away.

Who is positive?

Trump is in power, he is radical, he is a loose cannon, he is dangerous, he takes up all the oxygen. Go figure.

You're riff about anti-Trump rhetoric might mean something if the above weren't true.
 
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MTAtech said:
[h=1]Trump says he would ask Supreme Court to intervene if Democrats move to impeach him[/h]


I would add that the Trump tweet confirms that he has a profound lack of understanding of the constitution in general and this is merely a sample.

The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction to vacate an impeachment, should it occur. The guy really does want a banana republic.
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It's a hard road coming out of the private sector into the swamp where everyone is gunning for they guy trying to cut their paychecks.

I get that Trump is wrong on impeachment, but knowing Trump, he has a few aces left up his sleeve.

People what the "Old Republicans" back who laid down and let everyone walk on them. Trump is a breath of fresh air to those of us who would like to have a country for our progeny.
 
MTAtech said:
[h=1]Trump says he would ask Supreme Court to intervene if Democrats move to impeach him[/h]


I would add that the Trump tweet confirms that he has a profound lack of understanding of the constitution in general and this is merely a sample.

The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction to vacate an impeachment, should it occur. The guy really does want a banana republic.
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One can only shake his head. Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. The Constitution outlines exactly what has to take place. All the SCOTUS can do is provide the Chief Justice to preside over the Trial in the Senate.
 
MTAtech said:
Discussions of impeachment is not an election strategy. It's a legitimate duty of Congress' oversight responsibility.

The American people threw the Republicans out of control of the House and gave it to the Democrats. That House has the power to subpoena. We have a president who unabashedly ignores subpoena and has ordered his staff to ignore Congressional subpoenas. This president's defying Congress is a clear abuse of power. Previous presidents who did the same faced impeachment.
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The American people are fickle and the American people are sick and tired of the negativity and politics of personal destruction. There is no value to the American people of an Impeachment this close to the next election but that is all you have, politics of personal destruction as there is no reason to turn the WH over to the Democrats, Radicals like you aren't in the majority
 
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