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Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border

VanceMack said:
Shows how ****ed up and idiotic the American left is. US Citizens preventing people from entering the country illegally...why thats bad. Illegal immigrants...thats good.


****ing morons...the lot.
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White Trash Morons with NO legal authority taking the law into their hands...Your "kind" proud of that?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Take a look at my sig line.
What if a similar looking "militia", all dressed up in camo and armed to the teeth, decides that their mission is something else?

Originally Posted by joko104
The Democratic Party should be declared a domestic terrorist organization and a foreign espionage organization. With this, the Democratic Party should be outlawed before they completely destroy the United States.


They too can argue that they "have the right to neutralize" that which they see as a threat.
There's a reason we actually have legitimate military and law enforcement, otherwise I can just go buy a Ford Crown Vic, install all the lights and sirens and run around pulling people over.

We can ALL be "citizen police" and "citizen militia" and do whatever we like, right?
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What if you were sunning outside and a satellite fell from the sky and ran right up your ass?

Again...we have reached a point where idiot leftists in this country bemoan American citizens stopping illegal immigrants while those same idiot leftists facilitate 78,000 illegal immigrants a month being dumped on the streets of this country. There is no way getting around how sick and indefensible the American lefts positions anymore.
 
VanceMack said:
What if you were sunning outside and a satellite fell from the sky and ran right up your ass?

Again...we have reached a point where idiot leftists in this country bemoan American citizens stopping illegal immigrants while those same idiot leftists facilitate 78,000 illegal immigrants a month being dumped on the streets of this country. There is no way getting around how sick and indefensible the American lefts positions anymore.
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You must be talking to someone else outside this conversation because my issue has to do with the fact that these citizens aren't sworn members of either law enforcement or the military and as such they do not have any legal standing or authority.

Playing tin soldier sounds like fun for some people but if they can do that, I guess I can pretend to be a cop.

I don't have a problem with apprehending border jumpers.
They can apprehend all the border jumpers they want, just go get hired by BP or reenlist in the military. Trumpy already sent military to the border, or didn't you hear? Why aren't they re-upping with Uncle Sam?

This is typical nonsense coming from you. You do have a problem with accountability. Ad hoc private militias are accountable to no one. And that's a problem.
 
Saladin4 said:
Antifa was at the Border?.....You seem confused, photos showed angry white men with NO legal authority roaming around like terrorists
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You didn't make the distinction you only wanted to shoot terrorists at the border.


I should have realized the nickel head club wasn't smart enough to understand.
 
JacksinPA said:
Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border | US news | The Guardian

The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law

Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.

Several videos taken at the border in New Mexico this week appeared to show men belonging to a group that calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots approaching migrant families and children, ordering them to sit down, calling federal agents on them, and at one point potentially misrepresenting themselves by saying “border patrol” as they approached.
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Hmmm.... Armed squads of vigilantes roaming our borders & illegally 'detaining' groups of migrants? I'll bet they all voted for Trump.
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We had a jackball like that in Arizona a few years ago, JT Ready. A complete psychopath, he actually threatened to kill a friend of mine.

So, this white trash loser was living at a girlfriend's house, sponging off her, found out she was cheating on him, he killed her infant daughter, two more kids, the girlfriend, and mercifully, himself.

The vigilantes should be thrown in a PMITA prison. That isn't how the law works.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Wrong. The constitution allows Americans to defend it from enemies both foreign and domestic. Illegals killing Americans is also illegal...I didn't see you up in arms about that. How come?
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OK internet tough guy, how about you go down and join them?

Feel free to report back.
 
VanceMack said:
Shows how ****ed up and idiotic the American left is. US Citizens preventing people from entering the country illegally...why thats bad. Illegal immigrants...thats good.


****ing morons...the lot.
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If you feel that way, why don't you put some flashing lights on your car, put a siren on it, and get a fancy uniform with a badge and go out and arrest bad people.

Tell me how it goes for ya....:lamo
 
If people were not crossing the border illegally the militia would have no one to detain.
 
Chillfolks said:
If people were not crossing the border illegally the militia would have no one to detain.
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That could be argued for any vigilantism. The Union of Patriot Douchebags read too many comics.
 
JacksinPA said:
Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border | US news | The Guardian

The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law

Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.

Several videos taken at the border in New Mexico this week appeared to show men belonging to a group that calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots approaching migrant families and children, ordering them to sit down, calling federal agents on them, and at one point potentially misrepresenting themselves by saying “border patrol” as they approached.
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Hmmm.... Armed squads of vigilantes roaming our borders & illegally 'detaining' groups of migrants? I'll bet they all voted for Trump.
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Armed squads of vigilantes consists of half a dozen guys.

their duties include “watching the border, standing guard over people who want to hand themselves in to Border Patrol and pursuing those who don’t.”

United Constitutional Patriots militia vows to 'assist the border patrol' until wall is built - Washington Times


"... ABC-7 spoke with members of the United Constitutional Patriots in March 2019. The group told ABC-7 its members are armed, but they are aware they are not allowed to detain, approach or engage people entering the U.S. illegally. The group said it is merely at the border to alert Border Patrol agents when undocumented immigrants cross into the U.S. ..."

'Patriot' group records video of hundreds of migrants entering US - KVIA


Nothing illegal ... except for a lot of BS in OP's article.
 
Barnacle said:
Armed squads of vigilantes consists of half a dozen guys.

their duties include “watching the border, standing guard over people who want to hand themselves in to Border Patrol and pursuing those who don’t.”

United Constitutional Patriots militia vows to 'assist the border patrol' until wall is built - Washington Times


"... ABC-7 spoke with members of the United Constitutional Patriots in March 2019. The group told ABC-7 its members are armed, but they are aware they are not allowed to detain, approach or engage people entering the U.S. illegally. The group said it is merely at the border to alert Border Patrol agents when undocumented immigrants cross into the U.S. ..."

'Patriot' group records video of hundreds of migrants entering US - KVIA


Nothing illegal ... except for a lot of BS in OP's article.
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So, you are all for vigilantes, provided they are vigilantes you agree with?


Hypocrisy.....
 
Chillfolks said:
If people were not crossing the border illegally the militia would have no one to detain.
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Are these militia boys hired as private security for the private citizen who owns the land they're trespassing on?
That is one scenario where they would actually have some authority, same as any other armed security guards.

If the land is state or federal land, and they're not sworn law enforcement or sworn military, they have ZERO authority, unless they have been duly deputized by law enforcement or sworn by official state militia. Outside of that, there are reasons why ordinary people aren't supposed to dress up as fake military and attempt to do what the military does, or fake law enforcement and attempt to do what law enforcement does.

As was mentioned earlier, it opens the door to abuse, because fake military and fake cops are not accountable to anybody.
In a free country, things like accountabilty and authority are supposed to actually mean something.

If you're going to support this nonsense, then you just gave me the all the authority I need to go rounding up people like you in the middle of the night, or pulling you over on the road. See, I can go buy camo and guns and tactical vests, too...and I can self appoint and grant myself all the authority I need, too.
I can even say that GOD HIMSELF GAVE me the authority to arrest right wingers.

Thanks! Where do you live? If you live out East, maybe I can send "Officer" George Zimmerman instead.
He thought HE was a cop, too.

OfficerZimmerman.jpg
 
JacksinPA said:
Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border | US news | The Guardian

The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law

Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.

Several videos taken at the border in New Mexico this week appeared to show men belonging to a group that calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots approaching migrant families and children, ordering them to sit down, calling federal agents on them, and at one point potentially misrepresenting themselves by saying “border patrol” as they approached.
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Hmmm.... Armed squads of vigilantes roaming our borders & illegally 'detaining' groups of migrants? I'll bet they all voted for Trump.
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This is where the "law and order" party suspend their love for "law and order" because other things they want are more important.
 
beefheart said:
So, you are all for vigilantes, provided they are vigilantes you agree with?
Hypocrisy.....
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"vigilantes" is the term JacksinPA used, not me ... hence my referencing the term he used in bold and Italic.


Dense ...
 
Barnacle said:
"vigilantes" is the term JacksinPA used, not me ... hence my referencing the term he used in bold and Italic.


Dense ...
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What descriptive noun better fits a group of armed civilians who take the law into their own hands?
 
Manc Skipper said:
What descriptive noun better fits a group of armed civilians who take the law into their own hands?
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Nobody in that group that takes the law into their own hands - read post #37 and the links.

If they did, the Border Patrol would have already gotten rid of them.

You may now untwist your knickers ...
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Are these militia boys hired as private security for the private citizen who owns the land they're trespassing on?
That is one scenario where they would actually have some authority, same as any other armed security guards.

If the land is state or federal land, and they're not sworn law enforcement or sworn military, they have ZERO authority, unless they have been duly deputized by law enforcement or sworn by official state militia. Outside of that, there are reasons why ordinary people aren't supposed to dress up as fake military and attempt to do what the military does, or fake law enforcement and attempt to do what law enforcement does.

As was mentioned earlier, it opens the door to abuse, because fake military and fake cops are not accountable to anybody.
In a free country, things like accountabilty and authority are supposed to actually mean something.
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None of that changes the simple fact if people didn't illegally cross the border then these yahoos wouldn't have anyone to detain.
If you're going to support this nonsense, then you just gave me the all the authority I need to go rounding up people like you in the middle of the night, or pulling you over on the road.
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If you think you have the authority then try it. Trying to round up people who are not breaking the law is a good way to end up in jail yourself or worse.
See, I can go buy camo and guns and tactical vests, too...and I can self appoint and grant myself all the authority I need, too.
I can even say that GOD HIMSELF GAVE me the authority to arrest right wingers.
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If you do, make sure your life insurance is up to date for your loved ones.
Thanks! Where do you live? If you live out East, maybe I can send "Officer" George Zimmerman instead.
He thought HE was a cop, too.

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In Va. George is a douche and proven himself not responsible with a firearm. Excluding the Martin incident his alleged abuse and other antics show him unstable
 
Barnacle said:
"vigilantes" is the term JacksinPA used, not me ... hence my referencing the term he used in bold and Italic.


Dense ...
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Go ahead, join them if you are so sure of what they are doing is right....report back.
 
JacksinPA said:
Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border | US news | The Guardian

The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law

Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.

Several videos taken at the border in New Mexico this week appeared to show men belonging to a group that calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots approaching migrant families and children, ordering them to sit down, calling federal agents on them, and at one point potentially misrepresenting themselves by saying “border patrol” as they approached.
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Hmmm.... Armed squads of vigilantes roaming our borders & illegally 'detaining' groups of migrants? I'll bet they all voted for Trump.
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Guess the ACLU has never heard of this thing called a citizen's arrest.....
 
Saladin4 said:
White Trash Morons with NO legal authority taking the law into their hands...Your "kind" proud of that?
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It's called a citizens arrest, and unfortunately for you (and them), is quite legal.
 
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