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[W:914,1223] Robert Mueller's report is out

Oh this get better.... ****ty Schiff is holding a presser and it's not very favorable, to in his words, "our immoral, dishonest, unpatriotic POTUS."

LMAOPIMP
 
Bullseye said:
Well, you're half right - far above your usual average. Not I don't support Congress carrying on this ridiculous farce. If Mueller and 19 lawyers working in secrecy can't build a case for obstruction WTF are a bunch of preening politicians fighting for camera time going to produce?
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Desperation?
 
Every two face liberal on Debate Politics can eat one.

Totally denying the Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Clinton, and Holder......... bloodless coup.

But, but.......................................TRUMP!

The Orange Buffoon is still standing and it just eats away on the liberal mind.
 
Roadvirus said:
But there also wasn't enough to justify charging him for it either.

And wasting more time? No.

The American people are tired of this crap and want to see the Dems do something constructive legislatively. If the Dems can't do that, then...bye bye 2020!
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1. The GOP already tried the tactic of obstructing everything the Dems did and then attacking the Dems for not getting anything passed. Obama was still re-elected. The GOP will continue to obstruct everything the Dems try, and their bills will continue to be shot down in the senate. In the rare chance they get through, Trump will veto.

I suspect they'll keep trying to do the things they want, take note as the GOP shoots it all down, and then make the case to the people. What advantage do they have if doing something constructive can only mean passing bills the GOP likes, which therefore do not get shot down? It's not like the modern right is going to say "gee, all those dems supported these ideas I like. Maybe I'll vote for that guy next time."

It'll still be "pwn the libtards" ten years from now. It set in around 2007 and I suspect it'll take a generation.




2. Just because Trump's supporters say the report completely exonerates Trump and should not be mentioned ever more, the middle 10% of the voters are who count.

Those voters, who often voter for a mix of parties over time, are not going to so heartily embrace either the idea to capitulate so as to be seen as doing something "constructive" by people almost certain to attack them no matter what, nor are they going to heartily embrace the idea that this report indicates complete innocence (especially where it says it does not exonerate.....).
 
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Ikari said:
Nice dodge. The question was of partisan integrity and how you now use the "standard the left is applying" instead of one you used before.

So answer the question, did that stop you from complaining about how she was still guilty?
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That's what I thought.
 
Mr Person said:
Psssssst: the GOP already tried the tactic of obstructing everything the Dems did and then attacking the Dems for not getting anything passed. Obama was still re-elected.
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Same things going to happen in 2020
 
Bullseye said:
Well, you're half right - far above your usual average. Not I don't support Congress carrying on this ridiculous farce. If Mueller and 19 lawyers working in secrecy can't build a case for obstruction WTF are a bunch of preening politicians fighting for camera time going to produce?
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it's my understanding that the Mueller team consulted with the DoJ on whether or not they could indict a president and came back with a 'No' answer, since an impending criminal case would interfere with a President's ability to govern.

Rather they passed it to Congress.

The Mueller Report Is an Impeachment Referral - The Atlantic

But if Mueller believes a president could be held to account after he leaves office, he also spelled out another concern with alleging a crime against a sitting president: the risk that it would preempt “constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct.”
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tres borrachos said:
What specifically did Trump do for the unemployed of color that resulted in them being hired? Facts and data, please. Confirmation that business owners hired the unemployed of color because of something specific Trump did. Thank you in advance.
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Outcome is what matters. And just to disabuse you that Trump did anything "for" any racial group, EVERY group is better off because (here it comes) his policies made the business leaders "feel" like they would not be penalized by their government red tape. Apparently, that works. You are welcome.
 
trixare4kids said:
Oh this get better.... ****ty Schiff is holding a presser and it's not very favorable, to in his words, "our immoral, dishonest, unpatriotic POTUS."

LMAOPIMP
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Impeachment is dead. You could tell by listening to Nadler this afternoon. Trump was cleared of collusion and the lame examples of supposed obstruction will do nothing more than keep the base riled up for a little while longer and help CNN prop up its ratings.
 
ecofarm said:
You see Trump as the Pied Piper of black people, don't you? He's gonna put 'em to work and make 'em Republicans. He's gonna free them from the Democratic Plantation like a modern Abe Lincoln. Foxnews is the Underground Railroad.

Ain't that somethin'.
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You have no idea what I "see". Your prognostications, however, may have some future merit.
 
Fruityfact said:
K, you sit on your hands just like the republicans have been for over a decade. I'll go for the solution that has been proven in all other developed nations.
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Yeah...because I personally have the authority to change things. LOL I am willing to listen to all solutions to the problem. How about you?
 
Winston said:
it's my understanding that the Mueller team consulted with the DoJ on whether or not they could indict a president and came back with a 'No' answer, since an impending criminal case would interfere with a President's ability to govern.

Rather they passed it to Congress.

The Mueller Report Is an Impeachment Referral - The Atlantic
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I think thats probably true, but Mueller didnt make any recommendations on obstruction and he cleared Trump on collusion. You are just not going to get any buy in on impeachment without an underlying crime.
 
smallvoice said:
You have no idea what I "see". Your prognostications, however, may have some future merit.
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It's bottom of the barrel stupid and psychotic to pretend jokes and mockery are sincere. One step down is institutionalization.
 
Fletch said:
I think thats probably true, but Mueller didnt make any recommendations on obstruction and he cleared Trump on collusion. You are just not going to get any buy in on impeachment without an underlying crime.
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Do you get a kick out of lying like that ??

" he cleared Trump on collusion"

saying it DEFINETELY does not exonerate him means clearing? you can say he didn't directly indict or charge him with any crimes, that's fine and the truth. But to say he cleared Trump?
 
Fletch said:
Impeachment is dead. You could tell by listening to Nadler this afternoon. Trump was cleared of collusion and the lame examples of supposed obstruction will do nothing more than keep the base riled up for a little while longer and help CNN prop up its ratings.
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I want to see Schiff and Swalwell's evidence. If they won't bring it, they ought to resign.
 
Fletch said:
Impeachment is dead.
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As I and most people on the left on this site have been saying the entire time, impeachment was never in the cards. Not with this GOP in this "pwn the libtards" political climate. Not ever.
 
Fletch said:
Impeachment is dead. You could tell by listening to Nadler this afternoon. Trump was cleared of collusion and the lame examples of supposed obstruction will do nothing more than keep the base riled up for a little while longer and help CNN prop up its ratings.
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Mueller basically says in every way possible that Trump committed obstruction without actually saying he’s guilty of obstruction. (Because Mueller is prohibited from saying such a thing)

The report EXPLICITLY does NOT clear Trump on obstruction.
 
ettoremathedi said:
Do you get a kick out of lying like that ??

" he cleared Trump on collusion"

saying it DEFINETELY does not exonerate him means clearing? you can say he didn't directly indict or charge him with any crimes, that's fine and the truth. But to say he cleared Trump?
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You cant read. Trump was cleared of collusion. The report could not exonerate him on obstruction.
 
I have gone through much of the report. It will take time to review all of it, but I have made some determinations. First, it is really, really, really bad for Donald Trump. The last hundred pages of the report is a legal memorandum. I am trying to find a searchable version that I can quote from directly. I am convinced that if it were not for the proscription against indicting a sitting President, there would (and may still be) a prosecution of Donald J. Trump for obstruction.
 
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