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William Weld Becomes the First Republican to Challenge Trump in the 2020 Primaries

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William Weld Becomes the First Republican to Challenge Trump in the 2020 Primaries
(BOSTON) — William Weld, a former governor of Massachusetts who two years ago ran for vice president on the Libertarian Party ticket, on Monday became the first Republican to challenge President Donald Trump in the 2020 primaries.

Weld, 73, said in announcing his candidacy that “it is time to return to the principles of Lincoln — equality, dignity and opportunity for all.” He said, “There is no greater cause on earth than to preserve what truly makes America great. I am ready to lead that fight.”

Weld has accused Trump of leaving the nation in “grave peril” and has said his “priorities are skewed toward promotion of himself rather than for the good of the country.” While Trump’s overall approval ratings have been poor for much of his presidency, he remains popular with Republican voters. The Republican National Committee in January issued a nonbinding resolution to declare the party’s undivided support for Trump.
While I believe that Weld's candidacy faces long odds, I think what it will do is expose how shallow Trump's support actually is in the party. Right now, polls show him with 80-90% support among "Republicans" - but, that is a party that has shrunk considerably under his watch. Moreover, that support is based upon the lack of any alternative. Weld, potentially, might change that calculation. It will be interesting to watch what happens with the "never Trump" energy - which still exists strongly within the conservative movement.
 
BREAKING NEWS: William Weld suspends 2020 campaign, because Republicans don't give a **** who that is!

Seriously, it's not going to happen. Happy trying, though.
 
William Weld Becomes the First Republican to Challenge Trump in the 2020 PrimariesWhile I believe that Weld's candidacy faces long odds, I think what it will do is expose how shallow Trump's support actually is in the party. Right now, polls show him with 80-90% support among "Republicans" - but, that is a party that has shrunk considerably under his watch. Moreover, that support is based upon the lack of any alternative. Weld, potentially, might change that calculation. It will be interesting to watch what happens with the "never Trump" energy - which still exists strongly within the conservative movement.

The I think the way YouGov reports favorable polling tells us much more than just support or favorbility. True, over all 85% of Republicans give Trump a favorable rating. Now YouGov breaks that down into very favorable and somewhat favorable. 64% of Republicans view Trump very favorably, they are strong Trump supporters. 21% say somewhat favorable, kind of wishy washy support. Not strong, but support him as he is better than any alternative. Question 55A

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ocwi3vp02h/econTabReport.pdf

Still, 64% is more than enough to ensure renomination. In January of 2017, Gallup put party strength at 29% Republican, 31% Democrat, 39% independent. As of March 2018, Gallup has the current party strength at 26% Republican, 30% Democrat, 42% Independent. Being the margin of error is plus or minus 3 points, that is really no change. So stating the GOP has shrunk considerably is wrong.

If you go back to 2008, the year Obama was elected, Pew Research gave the party's strength as 25% Republican, 36% Democratic, 32% Independent. Comparing those figures with today's shows how much independents has risen over the last decade. From 32% of the electorate to 42%.

Trends in Party Identification, 1939-2014 | Pew Research Center

the Democratic Party has always been the larger of the two parties as the graph shows. The Republican Party has been below 30% of the total electorate since Eisenhower with the Reagan/Bush years. The Democrats average 45% from FDR to Reagan, then 35% from Reagan to Obama and now are down to 30% in 2018.
 
I wonder who is bankrolling him.
 
BREAKING NEWS: William Weld suspends 2020 campaign, because Republicans don't give a **** who that is!

Seriously, it's not going to happen. Happy trying, though.

If we wanted to vote for a Left leaning Republican, Jeb Bush would be president.
 
Not really. Trump has supporters that consists of (many) conservatives, libertarians, moderates, and even blue collar Democrats. The so-called "Conservative Movement" are conservative by name only. They say things that are conservative, and many conservatives like the ideas that are put out there, but when given the opportunity to actually execute any of it, they don't do it. Look at Obamacare: many "conservatives" supported the repeal and replace approach while Obama was President. They didn't try to override his veto, nor did they really want to challenge him. They sat there, twiddled their thumbs, and wondered what they were going to do after they put on that charade. When Trump came into office and DID have another shot to repeal, John McCain, one of the "conservatives", said "nope, not going to happen" and shot it down. Same thing with border security and the border wall, They talked a good game during Obama's time in office, but never really fought hard to get it. Hell, they basically gave the Democrats what they wanted, even when they had both the House and the Senate. They accomplished hardly anything on that front. Then along came Trump wanting the border wall and tougher border security. Once again, the "conservatives" shot it down and instead wanted to give the Democrats what they wanted. Trump said "no" and the government (partially) shut down.

The "Conservative Movement" is nothing more than a bunch of Washington insiders putting on a facade to make it look like that they're up against great odds against the Democrat party, but in reality, they're not much different than their supposed counterparts. So long as they keep face on what they're doing, they'll continue being members of the Washington "elite," which is really what they want. This William Weld guy is one of those so-called "conservatives," who believes in ONLY the fiscal aspect of conservatism but not the social side of it. He sounds more like a lobbyist than a former (conservative) governor. This guy could just be to throw mud at Trump and try to paint him as "unqualified" and "a great danger" to the country. He sounds weak, though, and will be very easy to defeat. It's practically a no contest. The Democrats know this, but they will take ANYTHING at this moment time to try to bring Trump's approval numbers down. Right now, they're (roughly) between 45-51%.

Real conservatives are behind Trump. As mentioned before, he also has the support of many libertarians, moderates, and blue collar Democrats. It was the dream base that the "Conservative Movement" had wanted, but they reject it. The why is simple: because a guy that they deem as a reprobate and an idiot was able to get them, and they couldn't. They don't have the successful business and work record that Trump does. A man who has had more success in life than what these political hacks have had. These "conservatives" are seen as know-it-alls, liars, arrogant, condescending, and self righteous. Trump's base knows that Trump isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but they know what they see is what they get and see him as a guy who cares about the country. Most of his policies ARE conservative, but they see him as working across the aisle in smart and firm way. I believe Trump is going to beat this clown (and any others that might come) that's challenging him in the primaries, and is on a fast track on winning reelection in 2020. If there's anyone that be shown to have shallow support, it'll be Weld and the "Conservative Movement" (which consist only of Never Trumpers).
 
Not really. Trump has supporters that consists of (many) conservatives, libertarians, moderates, and even blue collar Democrats. The so-called "Conservative Movement" are conservative by name only. They say things that are conservative, and many conservatives like the ideas that are put out there, but when given the opportunity to actually execute any of it, they don't do it. Look at Obamacare: many "conservatives" supported the repeal and replace approach while Obama was President. They didn't try to override his veto, nor did they really want to challenge him. They sat there, twiddled their thumbs, and wondered what they were going to do after they put on that charade. When Trump came into office and DID have another shot to repeal, John McCain, one of the "conservatives", said "nope, not going to happen" and shot it down. Same thing with border security and the border wall, They talked a good game during Obama's time in office, but never really fought hard to get it. Hell, they basically gave the Democrats what they wanted, even when they had both the House and the Senate. They accomplished hardly anything on that front. Then along came Trump wanting the border wall and tougher border security. Once again, the "conservatives" shot it down and instead wanted to give the Democrats what they wanted. Trump said "no" and the government (partially) shut down.

The "Conservative Movement" is nothing more than a bunch of Washington insiders putting on a facade to make it look like that they're up against great odds against the Democrat party, but in reality, they're not much different than their supposed counterparts. So long as they keep face on what they're doing, they'll continue being members of the Washington "elite," which is really what they want. This William Weld guy is one of those so-called "conservatives," who believes in ONLY the fiscal aspect of conservatism but not the social side of it. He sounds more like a lobbyist than a former (conservative) governor. This guy could just be to throw mud at Trump and try to paint him as "unqualified" and "a great danger" to the country. He sounds weak, though, and will be very easy to defeat. It's practically a no contest. The Democrats know this, but they will take ANYTHING at this moment time to try to bring Trump's approval numbers down. Right now, they're (roughly) between 45-51%.

Real conservatives are behind Trump. As mentioned before, he also has the support of many libertarians, moderates, and blue collar Democrats. It was the dream base that the "Conservative Movement" had wanted, but they reject it. The why is simple: because a guy that they deem as a reprobate and an idiot was able to get them, and they couldn't. They don't have the successful business and work record that Trump does. A man who has had more success in life than what these political hacks have had. These "conservatives" are seen as know-it-alls, liars, arrogant, condescending, and self righteous. Trump's base knows that Trump isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but they know what they see is what they get and see him as a guy who cares about the country. Most of his policies ARE conservative, but they see him as working across the aisle in smart and firm way. I believe Trump is going to beat this clown (and any others that might come) that's challenging him in the primaries, and is on a fast track on winning reelection in 2020. If there's anyone that be shown to have shallow support, it'll be Weld and the "Conservative Movement" (which consist only of Never Trumpers).
This is a very interesting post. I can't say I necessarily agree with it all, or even to the degree you do, but I think you represent your position well.
 
William Weld Becomes the First Republican to Challenge Trump in the 2020 PrimariesWhile I believe that Weld's candidacy faces long odds, I think what it will do is expose how shallow Trump's support actually is in the party. Right now, polls show him with 80-90% support among "Republicans" - but, that is a party that has shrunk considerably under his watch. Moreover, that support is based upon the lack of any alternative. Weld, potentially, might change that calculation. It will be interesting to watch what happens with the "never Trump" energy - which still exists strongly within the conservative movement.w
Who's that? :lol:
 
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The Republican National Committee won't allow Trump to be primaried.

Democracy, GOP style.
 
The republicans have sold their souls to trumpism.

Their embrace of odious, hate filled, and vengeful politics has displayed how grotesque this nation truly is.
 
Trump gets to finish off what once was the Republican party one on one.
 
William Weld Becomes the First Republican to Challenge Trump in the 2020 PrimariesWhile I believe that Weld's candidacy faces long odds, I think what it will do is expose how shallow Trump's support actually is in the party. Right now, polls show him with 80-90% support among "Republicans" - but, that is a party that has shrunk considerably under his watch. Moreover, that support is based upon the lack of any alternative. Weld, potentially, might change that calculation. It will be interesting to watch what happens with the "never Trump" energy - which still exists strongly within the conservative movement.

As a kicker, his primary campaign issue is handling National Debt, which I can certainly relate to. With his history of working with Dems and getting stuff done, I'd vote for him in R Primaries, ... if given a chance.
 
yawn...

Who...specifically.

And, are you sure they are Republicans?

Well, it sure ain't Liberals. Do you see Libs behind
everything that goes against trump, really?
 
Well, it sure ain't Liberals. Do you see Libs behind
everything that goes against trump, really?

I don't "see" anything. That's why I asked.

Evidently, you don't "see" anything, either...but instead of asking, you don't mind making **** up.

Moving on...
 
I don't "see" anything. That's why I asked.

Evidently, you don't "see" anything, either...but instead of asking, you don't mind making **** up.

Moving on...

Yes, run along, your suggestion was obvious and I have no doubt you believe that it is the case, after a ll no real Republican would challenge the donald.
 
Yes, run along, your suggestion was obvious and I have no doubt you believe that it is the case, after a ll no real Republican would challenge the donald.

LOL!!

I have no doubt there are some stupid "real Republican" NeverTrumpers who would waste their money trying to challenge Trump.
 
LOL!!

I have no doubt there are some stupid "real Republican" NeverTrumpers who would waste their money trying to challenge Trump.

I am sure there are some smart ones also, hence why they resist the donald, they aren't sheep like some.
 
I am sure there are some smart ones also, hence why they resist the donald, they aren't sheep like some.

They are "Don Quixote's".
 
The Republican National Committee won't allow Trump to be primaried.

Democracy, GOP style.

Yeah but Putin won't be hacking the RNC either.

Or if he does he won't be using it publicly.

Weld has enough resources to get him on ballots and into a high energy campaign. He's smart, sharp, witty, strident and bold, culturally sophisticated and politically savvy to the point he's going to strip Trump of a lot of face. It'll be the debonair Weld vs Trump the thumper and philistine. It won't cost Trump the nomination by any means but it will reduce Trump and his public image. Then the Democratic nominee will go to work on Trump daily over the next six months or so.

In 1960 Joe Kennedy Sr., Jack and Bobby knew they needed Lyndon to win so they schmoozed him in. Nixon in 1972 was so hell bent on eliminating his opposition it cost him his presidency and that was after he won 49 states. Ford lost to peanuts after Reagan primaried him. Peanut Man lost to Reagan in '80 despite Ted Kennedy blowing his own primary challenge completely. Bush 41 lost after Buchanan challenged him and forced GHW into a convention so full of crackpot rightwingers it both turned enough Boomers to Clinton and turned on enough crackpots to vote big time for the crackpots' crackpot Perot. Incumbent Potus have had it better since but Trump is the guy who can be hurt in the general by an agile and smartass primary challenger who knows the ropes of campaigning and governing.

I was back in my native Massachusetts when Weld won in '90. Although I voted for numerous Republicans over the previous decades I didn't vote for Weld who snagged a 5 percent victory margin over the Democrat president of BU, Dr. John Silber originally from Texas which didn't help him at all. John "Shoot Straight" Silber shot himself in the foot from the get-go. Moreover Weld was reelected with 70% of the vote to include mine. He has a good record to run on and a ton of wits and smarts.

Had Weld run against Ted Kennedy instead of Romney fumbling it, it might have turned out differently. Yes Trump's not your conventional opponent, it is a primary challenge and it's the Potus but Weld is adaptative and agile whereas Trump is in fact predictable and easily bamboozled. It will be Trump the flamethrower against Weld the firedancer.
 
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