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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    In short "I'm going to make some totally vacuous statement because I don't want to admit that you are citing facts.".
    Ah, no. In short, I think you're full of crap.

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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Just as you are not responsible for what Mr. Trump does (albeit you might have had a bigger say in having him as your head of government than I did with respect to Mr. Trudeau) I am not responsible for what Mr. Trudeau does.
    Well, isn't that convenient for you, seeing as, though I won't do a search, I am pretty sure that you have at least offered a few "likes" for people in here disparaging Trump supporters as "complicit....

    Indeed, actually complying with and enforcing the laws of the country is completely despicable - isn't it? Aren't you glad that Mr. Trump is only "administering" the United States of America so that it is only doing ONE of those two things? I mean, Mr. Trudeau is obviously twice as bad because he is doing both.
    Great! Now that you are for "the law", then you should have no objection to our border security turning away illegal entrants to our country, or internal enforcement removing them....Right?

    Did I miss the announcement that Mr. Trudeau was wanting to send Canadian troops to the Canada/US border in order to "protect Canada from a flood of illegal aliens"?
    No, but you are conveniently avoiding the strife over immigration in your own country by refusing to acknowledge that your own leader thought he was being cute by poking Trump in the eye on the subject, then having to walk back his nonsense...In short your usual dishonest, and too clever by half nonsense.

    No I don't. I just happen to be aware of both "the problem" (hyper-inflated and massively distorted as some people make it out to be) and the law (which some people posting on this issue would be well advised to learn).
    Real easy to make that stupid "hyper inflated" comment when your country doesn't have to deal with level of pressure due to illegal immigration isn't it....You should be thanking your lucky Labatt's that you have America as a buffer.

    Well, since Canada would be bound by the "Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries" that is the law in both Canada and the United States of America, the Canadian border personnel would just comply with its terms. I would agree with that action - wouldn't you if the situation were reversed?
    I don't buy that line of BS for one moment from you....Again you should be thanking us for not making it YOUR problem....

    Curmudgeons do not normally rate very high on the "Polite Scale".
    I knew a guy like you, who relished in the self described title of "asshole".... He thought that made him special from everyone else....In the end he wasn't either, it was all a facade....And he ended up being basically friendless, and lonely.....I see much the same here.
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, isn't that convenient for you, seeing as, though I won't do a search, I am pretty sure that you have at least offered a few "likes" for people in here disparaging Trump supporters as "complicit....
    The search should be fairly easy as there are only 13 of them to "research".

    Of course, your comment has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what I said, but you knew that when you wrote it - didn't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Great! Now that you are for "the law", then you should have no objection to our border security turning away illegal entrants to our country, or internal enforcement removing them....Right?
    Absolutely none.

    On the other hand since,

    1. a person who crossed the US border and applies for "refugee" or "asylee" status is NOT an "illegal entrant"
    2. a person who crossed the US border and has been in the US for LESS THAN one year without applying for either "refugee" or "asylee" status is still NOT an "illegal entrant"; and
    3. it is NOT a crime under US law to enter the US at a point other than an "official point of entry", so doing that does not make a person an "illegal immigrant" either;


    I probably have a different definition of what "following the law" is than someone who thinks that:

    1. a person who crossed the US border and applies for "refugee" or "asylee" status IS an "illegal entrant"
    2. a person who crossed the US border and has been in the US for even one second without applying for either "refugee" or "asylee" status IS an "illegal entrant"; and
    3. it IS a crime under US law to enter the US at a point other than an "official point of entry";


    as you appear to.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, but you are conveniently avoiding the strife over immigration in your own country by refusing to acknowledge that your own leader thought he was being cute by poking Trump in the eye on the subject, then having to walk back his nonsense...In short your usual dishonest, and too clever by half nonsense.
    I see, so the fact that Mr. Trudeau is a jerk means that Mr. Trump is NOT one too?

    Yeah, right, sure!

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Real easy to make that stupid "hyper inflated" comment when your country doesn't have to deal with level of pressure due to illegal immigration isn't it....You should be thanking your lucky Labatt's that you have America as a buffer.
    I make the "hyper inflated" comment based on what the American media and politicians say the level of "the problem" is in comparison to the data actually available.

    If the US doesn't want to be a "buffer" that's too bad because it happens to sit squarely astride the Mexico/Canada migration path.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't buy that line of BS for one moment from you....Again you should be thanking us for not making it YOUR problem....
    Strange as it may seem to you, the laws of the United States of America actually ARE the laws of the United States of America. If you consider that the laws of the United States of America are BS, that isn't my problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I knew a guy like you, who relished in the self described title of "asshole".... He thought that made him special from everyone else....In the end he wasn't either, it was all a facade....And he ended up being basically friendless, and lonely.....I see much the same here.
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    The search should be fairly easy as there are only 13 of them to "research".

    Of course, your comment has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what I said, but you knew that when you wrote it - didn't you?



    Absolutely none.

    On the other hand since,

    1. a person who crossed the US border and applies for "refugee" or "asylee" status is NOT an "illegal entrant"
    2. a person who crossed the US border and has been in the US for LESS THAN one year without applying for either "refugee" or "asylee" status is still NOT an "illegal entrant"; and
    3. it is NOT a crime under US law to enter the US at a point other than an "official point of entry", so doing that does not make a person an "illegal immigrant" either;


    I probably have a different definition of what "following the law" is than someone who thinks that:

    1. a person who crossed the US border and applies for "refugee" or "asylee" status IS an "illegal entrant"
    2. a person who crossed the US border and has been in the US for even one second without applying for either "refugee" or "asylee" status IS an "illegal entrant"; and
    3. it IS a crime under US law to enter the US at a point other than an "official point of entry";


    as you appear to.



    I see, so the fact that Mr. Trudeau is a jerk means that Mr. Trump is NOT one too?

    Yeah, right, sure!



    I make the "hyper inflated" comment based on what the American media and politicians say the level of "the problem" is in comparison to the data actually available.

    If the US doesn't want to be a "buffer" that's too bad because it happens to sit squarely astride the Mexico/Canada migration path.



    Strange as it may seem to you, the laws of the United States of America actually ARE the laws of the United States of America. If you consider that the laws of the United States of America are BS, that isn't my problem.



    Your problem, not mine.
    Not my problem pal....I don't describe myself as some sort of anti social pain in the ass....
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not my problem pal....I don't describe myself as some sort of anti social pain in the ass....
    Do you leave that to those you encounter on the internet?
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Do you leave that to those you encounter on the internet?
    LOL....Your characterizations don't make them mine...
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    I only went back five years and I will admit that my search was a very fast scan, but I didn't find a single incident where "Mexicans soldiers/drug cartels henchmen that shoot at our troops". Possibly you'd like to provide links to the many hundreds of such incidents that I know you are aware of but which both the MSM and the US government are concealing from honest, hard-working, patriotic Americans?

    Then again, possibly you wouldn't.
    Are hundreds of examples necessary?

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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not my problem pal....I don't describe myself as some sort of anti social pain in the ass....
    Ah, but you see, I describe myself accurately.
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nope.

    However, slightly more than ONE, and with something more that "suspected", and possibly a bit more current than July 20, 2014, and maybe one that the Border Patrol had actually said something about, might be a slightly better indicator of what is happening NOW - don't you think?

    PS - "'Triggerman' Convicted in 'Fast and Furious' U.S. Agent Murder" dated Feb. 13, 2019, refers to a 2010 incident so it is NOT with reference to an incident that is more current than the link you posted.

    Please feel free to continue supplying the voluminous evidence that I just know that you have to back up your contention.
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    Re: Trump complains US troops at border 'can't get a little rough, like they would normally'

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Nope.

    However, slightly more than ONE, and with something more that "suspected", and possibly a bit more current than July 20, 2014, and maybe one that the Border Patrol had actually said something about, might be a slightly better indicator of what is happening NOW - don't you think?

    PS - "'Triggerman' Convicted in 'Fast and Furious' U.S. Agent Murder" dated Feb. 13, 2019, refers to a 2010 incident so it is NOT with reference to an incident that is more current than the link you posted.

    Please feel free to continue supplying the voluminous evidence that I just know that you have to back up your contention.
    Moving the goal posts.
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