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WikiLeaks' Julian Assange arrested; U.S. seeks extradition from U.K.

3leftsdoo said:
Well, it shouldn't be.

But Assange is the target of one of the most vicious attack campaigns I've ever seen.

You'd think he was Hitler.

Or Gandhi...
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And the US is planning a political show trial as revenge for Assange making them look stupid. The jury would not consist of his 'peers', that is Australians, but of Americans guaranteed to hate him and primed with anti-Assange propaganda. It will be a dark day for US ,justice' and damaging to the USA's standing in the world.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The UK doesn't extradite to countries with a death penalty.
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It does for "non-capital" offences and/or where the requesting country had assured the UK government that no death sentence will be sought or imposed.

Admittedly that second half isn't going to be much comfort to the first person who is extradited to "Country A" based on those assurances and then executed. But that execution would likely stop ALL extraditions to "Country A" REGARDLESS of alleged offence.
 
3leftsdoo said:
I wish you did care.

The attacks on Assange are attacks on speech, the free press, government transparency, our Constitution, the UN Declaration, and basic decency.

I'm sure he has his faults, but his fate is a matter of great importance to everyone in the world.
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Aww, poor little hacker got busted, and now he's paying the price.

My heart bleeds for him.
 
Thoreau72 said:
You don't know that was done. You've been told that by the same gang of liars that told you about WMD 18 years ago.

You believe known liars, while I am most skeptical of their statements.
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Sorry, Assange fanboi. How is it that you believe everything Assange says but not actual, reputable journalists?

Or do you consider ****-smearing Assange a reputable journalist, but not the others?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
It does for "non-capital" offences and/or where the requesting country had assured the UK government that no death sentence will be sought or imposed.

Admittedly that second half isn't going to be much comfort to the first person who is extradited to "Country A" based on those assurances and then executed. But that execution would likely stop ALL extraditions to "Country A" REGARDLESS of alleged offence.
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The thing is, the charges laid leave the possibility open of the DP being brought into play, Despite "verbal assurances" from the USA that he won't.

It seems Sweden might want him first!

There's a critical flaw in the US indictment against Julian Assange. It changes everything | The Canary
 
Jack Hays said:
He tried actively to assist the theft.
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Allegedly

He has smeared **** on walls , allegedly

He has skateboarded through the embassy corridors , allegedly

He was rude to staff at the embassy , allegedly

Notice a pattern here ?

Even if all of the above is true his conduct still is nowhere near as criminal as the people you elected into office and on whose hands there is much blood, in fact serious crimes that will never see justice being served on the perpetrators . And you will be happy with that
 
Superfly said:
Sorry, Assange fanboi. How is it that you believe everything Assange says but not actual, reputable journalists?

Or do you consider ****-smearing Assange a reputable journalist, but not the others?
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" Reputable journalists " :lamo

Where has Thoreau 72 shown any sign that he " believes everything Assange says " ? He said he was skeptical of the MSM journalists and he has very good grounds to hold that view

You keep making the claim about **** smearing and dodging the requests to show some evidence
 
oneworld2 said:
Allegedly

He has smeared **** on walls , allegedly

He has skateboarded through the embassy corridors , allegedly

He was rude to staff at the embassy , allegedly

Notice a pattern here ?

Even if all of the above is true his conduct still is nowhere near as criminal as the people you elected into office and on whose hands there is much blood, in fact serious crimes that will never see justice being served on the perpetrators . And you will be happy with that
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There is evidence to support the charge. The rest of your post is just propaganda.
 
Jack Hays said:
There is evidence to support the charge. The rest of your post is just propaganda.
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From what I am hearing it's pretty **** evidence and that's why they are having to put the squeeze on Chelsea Manning

The rest of my post , not that there was much of it anyhow , was not propaganda but verifiable fact. Facts you run a mile from and wish to shield yourself and others from but facts nonetheless
 
oneworld2 said:
From what I am hearing it's pretty **** evidence and that's why they are having to put the squeeze on Chelsea Manning

The rest of my post , not that there was much of it anyhow , was not propaganda but verifiable fact. Facts you run a mile from and wish to shield yourself and others from but facts nonetheless
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Sorry, but no.
 
oneworld2 said:
AFAIK his lawyers are said to have commented on the incident so I am not strongly disputing it happened , or something happened , I am just sceptical of how this , like everything else regarding Assange is being depicted. The picture I have seen was a toilet in the embassy apparently free from anything by the looks of it. Nothing on the walls either. No dead bodies. No dead kittens. etc etc


My view is that the really big issues surrounding this new Assange situation , legality , IMF loans , vindictive revocations etc etc are being dodged and supplanted with trivial smears against the man himself with little or no evidence to support it thus far.

The Daily Mail ( tory rag in the uk ) released footage of him on a skateboard yesterday. It showed him standing around playing around with one and them he scooted all of about 7 foot across the floor of what looked like the room he is living in. A far cry from him skateboarding through the corridors of the embassy itself which, IIRC , was what had been stated earlier

What do you know about it 3leftsdoo ?
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Well, the plutocracy will do any thing to smear Assange, including accusing him of smearing.

They don't want to draw attention to the crimes he's uncovered - theirs - so we have the litter box nonsense.

People are sheepy, so they buy into it and condemn him because the idiot box tells them to do so.
 
Sweden said:
And the US is planning a political show trial as revenge for Assange making them look stupid. The jury would not consist of his 'peers', that is Australians, but of Americans guaranteed to hate him and primed with anti-Assange propaganda. It will be a dark day for US ,justice' and damaging to the USA's standing in the world.
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Indeed.
 
Superfly said:
Aww, poor little hacker got busted, and now he's paying the price.

My heart bleeds for him.
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Send not to learn for whom the bell tolls...
 
Superfly said:
Sorry, Assange fanboi. How is it that you believe everything Assange says but not actual, reputable journalists?

Or do you consider ****-smearing Assange a reputable journalist, but not the others?
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There are few journalists more heroic and reputable than Assange.

But there are many sniveling ass-suckers of the plutocracy who call themselves journalists & hate real, heroic journalists like Assange.

And there are many fools who believe their propaganda.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Well, the plutocracy will do any thing to smear Assange, including accusing him of smearing.

They don't want to draw attention to the crimes he's uncovered - theirs - so we have the litter box nonsense.

People are sheepy, so they buy into it and condemn him because the idiot box tells them to do so.
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There is also , imho , that cowardly stuff based on accepting and supporting the demonization of the likes of Assange , Manning , Snowden precisely so you don't have to face the stark realities of the crimes they have highlighted. It's the dodging of having to actually deal with them themselves
 
Superfly said:
Sorry, Assange fanboi. How is it that you believe everything Assange says but not actual, reputable journalists?

Or do you consider ****-smearing Assange a reputable journalist, but not the others?
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Simple: Wikileaks and Assange SO FAR have published only true and accurate, and very legitimate, articles and information, data. No spin required, no spin delivered. Just the truth, ma'am.

Reputable Journalists??? :lamo

If you're talking about the Presstitute Media that is the mainstream media in this country, you have just offered an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. In this country today, considering the mainstream media, there is no such thing as a reputable journalist.

Sharyl Attkisson and a few others, all the good ones, were driven out by the special interests.
 
3leftsdoo said:
I'd buy "heroic investigative journalist."
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I don't like Assange one little bit, never have. But even self-important creeps should not be dragged before a political court to answer to make-believe crimes. Justice for all even those who may not be heroes!
 
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