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Black woman violently beaten by gun-wielding white man faces felony charge

I stated she was wrong LONG before charges were brought up.....

You stated that she was wrong because of the charges. When the charges are brought up is irrelevant.

There isn't enough squirming in the world for you to get away from this intellectual chokehold you put yourself in.

Which is the one that matters:

Is she wrong because of the charges or is she wrong in spite of the charges?




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Those are actions, not intent. Please show the intent was the break the law and she wasn't just stumbling away and accidentally broke the window as a result. It's so much easier to believe that this was vandalism when nobody supports that claim, not even the DA.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

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They show intent. Her intent was to break the window because she was pissed at the guy.

You don't break a window by "accidently stumbling away"...you are the one making stuff up here.

And you don't know exactly why the DA didn't pursue the charges. In fact its very possible that dropping the charges were in exchange for her testimony against this guy.
 
They show intent. Her intent was to break the window because she was pissed at the guy.

Actions don't show intent, that's just nutty. If i kill someone does that show that I intended to murder them? Nobody here would argue such a ridiculous thing. That's why the prosecutor isn't falling for it and dropped the charges.

Come on guys, you can do this.

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I stated she was wrong LONG before charges were brought up.....but again, they were brought up for a reason,

Tell me why she was charged.....
It isn't uncommon for two people to be charged in a domestic violence/street fight issue; only for one of the parties to later have the charges dropped after one of the parties is determined to have assaulted the other.

This was self defense, buddy. The broken windshield? Irrelevant. The prosecutors feel me.

:)

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If you don't believe her breaking a windshield is wrong...tell me why without bringing the incident up. If you have to EXCUSE it away, you've failed.

It helps to identify the assailant should he leave the scene. Consider the car marked. She did a good job.
 
It helps to identify the assailant should he leave the scene. Consider the car marked. She did a good job.
No time to memorize license plates after that beatdown. Easier to just break a window and identify the assailant's car.

:)

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Ok, so now we've established that you think breaking a windshield is NOT wrong.....


there's really no where else to go....

It's apparently also acceptable to hit someone in the face when they smack a phone out of your hand.

An incredibly foolish escalation.

Two idiots.

Two.

But he'll pay the bigger price for his outsized violent idiocy, as he should.
 
1. Link: Black Woman Violently Beaten by Gun-wielding White Man Faces Felony Charge for Breaking Attacker’s Car Windows (Warning: Violence)
2. Date posted:4/3/19 AT 8:00 AM EDT
3. Excerpt:



The video is here: Video Shows Man Repeatedly Punching Woman In Deep Ellum - CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

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4: Commentary: So, we have a black woman alone in a dark parking lot is stalked, harassed and assaulted by a white male. He brandishes a gun, knocks away her phone when she tries to call for help— then beats her mercilessly with blows to the head. Should the DPD charge this victim with a felony? I don't think this should have happened. The DPD should be protecting victims of violence not going after them. Would be interested to hear what other people think.
I think they're both idiots who deserve each other, and what they got.
 
That's all conservatives know is equivocation and projection. If a kid burns down a school, should we also castigate the kid who didn't turn in his homework? You know, just to be fair? If a man beats up a man who is having sex with his underage son, should he charged? You know, just to be fair? If a woman is assaulted, threatened with a gun, her phone (to call help) physically knocked out of her hand, should she be charged for breaking a wind shield after the assault?

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(Cite: Father assaults man after catching him 'sexually abusing his son' | The Independent)

The answer is no.

The game you're playing if equivocation. And no one is playing that game with you today, Captain America.

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The answer is yes actually.
 
No time to memorize license plates after that beatdown. Easier to just break a window and identify the assailant's car.

:)

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There was once some dudes in my car trying to grab my stereo gear (I've mentioned the car before). I hit the front lawn at full speed and a couple of them ran for a car waiting in the street. One got in and the car started to leave, but the other wasn't in yet. I chased the car and a dude on foot down the block. I was gonna catch him. The car slowed for him and he jumped in just as I was reaching the car. With two blows, my arm went through the back window and I tried to grab someone in the back seat by their hair or mouth, but I couldn't get a grip and the car sped away. I had a couple scrapes on my arm from the rear windshield, but nothing to be stitched. Cops came. I told them the whole story, including to look for a regal with the rear windshield out. I was not arrested or charged with anything.
 
There was once some dudes in my car trying to grab my stereo gear (I've mentioned the car before). I hit the front lawn at full speed and a couple of them ran for a car waiting in the street. One got in and the car started to leave, but the other wasn't in yet. I chased the car and a dude on foot down the block. I was gonna catch him. The car slowed for him and he jumped in just as I was reaching the car. With two blows, my arm went through the back window and I tried to grab someone in the back seat by their hair or mouth, but I couldn't get a grip and the car sped away. I had a couple scrapes on my arm from the rear windshield, but nothing to be stitched. Cops came. I told them the whole story, including to look for a regal with the rear windshield out. I was not arrested or charged with anything.


You were lucky.. if someone other than you had gotten hurt.. you would have probably been charged.

They did not charge you because their obviously was no witnesses to your actions. If later these folks had been caught.. you might have ended up with some charges if someone was hurt.
 
You were lucky.. if someone other than you had gotten hurt.. you would have probably been charged.

They did not charge you because their obviously was no witnesses to your actions. If later these folks had been caught.. you might have ended up with some charges if someone was hurt.

Someone woulda been hurt alright.

No one ever came for my car again.

And there were witnesses. One couldn't keep up with me. They talked to the cops too. No one lied. I'm a white male hetero ex-paratroop. I do what I want.
 
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This forum is out of control. It is, by all standards, a safe space for white supremacy and a sanctuary from logic and decency. :shock:

You can't be serious. You must have lived a sheltered life, or, at least, never debated a bunch of Stormfronters on an unmoderated board. Because if you think the board Nazis who moderate this thing are too lenient you wouldn't have lasted a day on an unmoderated board. :lol: (I'm not Jewish, but I wish I had a shekel for every time I was cursed at or personally attacked as a Jeeoooo for having the nerve to engage some of these morons.)

I cannot shake the feeling that things would be different if this was a black man who did the same thing to a white woman.

No, since you quoted my post in making this comment, let me say that in my case it would have been the same. I would still have said that she could have shot him when he began repeatedly beating her in the head with his fists. The only difference would have been that I probably would have called her a blond for slugging a guy holding a gun. :shrug:


I've been posting for a few weeks and, after this thread, I've decided to dramatically slow down my participation on these forums. Logic, facts, empathy, compassion, common sense are impenetrable here. The people here bend over backwards to claim discrimination and violence because of their sacred political identity ("waaah, Jussie made Trump supporters look bad") or their white heritage ("Waaah, I can't believe they described the white man who beat this woman as "white" instead of "man. It triggers me!) but now turn around and claim that this woman is just as culpable as the man who prevented this woman from calling help, brandished his weapon, and beat her senseless. The apologism begins and ends with the identity: nothing else matters. For those who don't believe white supremacy exist, it is the embodiment of this folder and the responses therein. I'm out. :peace

Yeah, you probably need a timeout, perhaps reflecting a little on why you would equate my dispassionate discussion of the encounter with white supremacy. Good luck! :2wave:
 
They both appear to be at fault. :shock:

Shush! You can't say that! If you do you're undoubtedly a frustrated white supremacist looking to join the Klan so you can feel important and get a title like Grand Klexter or Imperial Klokard. ;)
 
I've never seen this much infighting over things so stupid.

For a few posts, it's kind of interesting.

But for pages, it's beyond dull.

I know. I think I was just bored for the morning and all of my paperwork was done, so I had nothing better to do.

Apologies for that.
 
I've never seen this much infighting over things so stupid.

For a few posts, it's kind of interesting.

But for pages, it's beyond dull.
******’ a dude! Seriously, this crap happens every day in my neighborhood.

...but hey, I’m vested now! :mrgreen:
 
You were lucky.. if someone other than you had gotten hurt.. you would have probably been charged.

They did not charge you because their obviously was no witnesses to your actions. If later these folks had been caught.. you might have ended up with some charges if someone was hurt.

Yes indeed.

Incredibly foolish, dangerous and childish conduct.
 
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There was once some dudes in my car trying to grab my stereo gear (I've mentioned the car before). I hit the front lawn at full speed and a couple of them ran for a car waiting in the street. One got in and the car started to leave, but the other wasn't in yet. I chased the car and a dude on foot down the block. I was gonna catch him. The car slowed for him and he jumped in just as I was reaching the car. With two blows, my arm went through the back window and I tried to grab someone in the back seat by their hair or mouth, but I couldn't get a grip and the car sped away. I had a couple scrapes on my arm from the rear windshield, but nothing to be stitched. Cops came. I told them the whole story, including to look for a regal with the rear windshield out. I was not arrested or charged with anything.

I saw this Starsky and Hutch on Nick At Nite! :)

It's also the one where Huggy Bear adopts a Vietnamese war orphan, but things don't turn out quite the way Huggy expects! :doh

Cool that David Soul is posting here.

:rock
 
I saw this Starsky and Hutch on Nick At Nite! :)

It's also the one where Huggy Bear adopts a Vietnamese war orphan, but things don't turn out quite the way Huggy expects! :doh

Cool that David Soul is posting here.

:rock

Flattery.
 
You can't be serious. You must have lived a sheltered life, or, at least, never debated a bunch of Stormfronters on an unmoderated board. Because if you think the board Nazis who moderate this thing are too lenient you wouldn't have lasted a day on an unmoderated board. :lol: (I'm not Jewish, but I wish I had a shekel for every time I was cursed at or personally attacked as a Jeeoooo for having the nerve to engage some of these morons.)

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Yeah, you probably need a timeout, perhaps reflecting a little on why you would equate my dispassionate discussion of the encounter with white supremacy. Good luck! :2wave:

Dispassionate? Please. You're defensive, at best, and, at worst, angry. 50 pages in one thread to absolve a white man pulling a gun and attacking an innocent human being. 50 pages in one thread playing whataboutism and bothsideism for the sole purpose of diminishing an attack to an innocent human being. Stormfront? Stormfront doesn't allow free expression, in fact, Stormfront corals non-supremacists into specific folders as to not disturb their safe space. This place is Stormfront 2.0.

Kuchiyose No Jutsu

Here you go.

 
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Dispassionate? Please. You're defensive, at best, and, at worst, angry. 50 pages in one thread to absolve a white man pulling a gun and attacking an innocent human being.

Can you give an example from this thread of anyone trying to "absolve" the guy who pulled the gun and hit the woman?

50 pages in one thread playing whataboutism and bothsideism for the sole purpose of diminishing an attack to an innocent human being.

Who tried to diminish the attack? From what I read, everyone without exception agreed that the man involved was very much in the wrong. The point of disagreement has been whether the woman was also wrong to break a window after the fact - and everyone has also said that her wrong was far less than his.
 
You were lucky.. if someone other than you had gotten hurt.. you would have probably been charged.

They did not charge you because their obviously was no witnesses to your actions. If later these folks had been caught.. you might have ended up with some charges if someone was hurt.

It is hard to say who might be charged in today's screwed up judicial system. George Zimmerman had to shoot Trayvon Martin in self defense to get him to stop beating him mercilessly and yet democrats wanted him lynched for that. When many blacks hear a cop shoots a black man in self defense to them that is an inexcusable murder for which the cop should be severely punished.
 
It is hard to say who might be charged in today's screwed up judicial system. George Zimmerman had to shoot Trayvon Martin in self defense to get him to stop beating him mercilessly and yet democrats wanted him lynched for that. When many blacks hear a cop shoots a black man in self defense to them that is an inexcusable murder for which the cop should be severely punished.

Except Zimmerman did not shoot martin in self defense. The law is clear on that.

He should have been found guilty of manslaughter. If we reversed color..and it was a black man armed with a handgun that pursued a white teenager through their own neighborhood.. and that white teenager in defense of their life.. tried to defend themselves and was shot by the black man..

That black man would have been found guilty of manslaughter..

and if the white boy had successfully defended himself and killed the armed black man.. the white boy would be hailed as a hero.
 
Dispassionate? Please. You're defensive, at best, and, at worst, angry. :shock: 50 pages in one thread to absolve a white man pulling a gun and attacking an innocent human being. 50 pages in one thread playing whataboutism and bothsideism for the sole purpose of diminishing an attack to an innocent human being. Stormfront? Stormfront doesn't allow free expression, in fact, Stormfront corals non-supremacists into specific folders as to not disturb their safe space. This place is Stormfront 2.0.

Huey, I'm not angry. Concerned? Yeah. Perplexed? Yeah. Passionate? Yeah. Angry? No, at least not to the point where I want to riot or burn down my neighborhood, start a movement, or even slug somebody. But I have to note an irony here: Your username was inspired by one of the angriest black men I could name: Huey P. Newton, cofounder, along with Bobby Seale, of the Black Panther Party. I assume you knew that. Perhaps you knew as well that "pissed off" doesn't begin to describe Huey. And apparently some other brothers were so pissed off at Huey that they murdered him. Are YOU angry, Huey? Is Huey Newton a hero of yours, or do you just like the cartoon character based on him? I'm trying to understand. What is it you find admirable, if anything, about either one? :confused:

But Stormfront 2.0? Seriously? Have you met the Captain yet? :lol: You have no idea how many bigoted, tin-hat loons TRY to establish a presence on this board, but, as most of them tend to not be very bright, end up violating the terms of service and get the boot. :( Take names, notes, and observe. And don't forget the report button, although, personally, I've never used it even though I could retire if I had a dollar for every time some SJW idiot took offense to something I wrote and felt the need to attack me personally. In any case, I was hoping you wouldn't quit in a huff, because if we all agreed with each other this wouldn't be much of a debate board, would it? But this I promise you: No matter how you might label me or what your opinion is of me, I will do my best to respect you and your opinions. It's been more than thirty years since I studied logic and ethics, but I still have my original copy of Damer's Attacking Faulty Reasoning. That means you better be prepared to be challenged, assuming you don't get disgusted to the point of quitting again. :2wave:

Finally, I watched your video. No offense, but I can't get into it. It comes off as a brainwashing hack piece from SJW University. I mean, I have no problem listening to people and trying to understand their point of view. That's common sense. But here's just one example of where I think common sense gets tossed out the window:

Forcing (people of color) to shoulder the burden of fighting for equality, requiring them to be friendly and helpful in the face of white ignorance, and expecting them to give white people the benefit of the doubt is not only wrong but also makes well-meaning white people complicit in their oppression.

To be frank, what a truckload of crap. Civil society depends on people behaving civilly. That means EVERYBODY has an oar to row. So, yeah, everyone should listen and try not to get defensive. Try to understand and, whenever possible, accommodate the other person's point of view. But NO ONE as a matter of course should get a pass to act like a dick because he feels oppressed or takes offense at something that was said or done to him. Respect begets respect. People remember and revere Marin Luther King because he forced Americans to look at the ugly part of themselves, not only with the moral force of his argument, but, when engaged in confrontation, by doing it in a poignant, non-violent, non-threatening, and, therefore, civil manner. Resorting to violence in this instance would have meant surrendering the moral high ground. His argument for civil rights for all Americans was more effective without it. Huey Percy Newton, on the other hand, is rarely remembered, revered by no one with the exception of the occasional leftist loon, and thus is and will always be nothing more than a flyspeck on a page from the Book of American History.
 
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Except Zimmerman did not shoot martin in self defense. The law is clear on that.

The problem with that argument is that he was found not guilty by reason of self defense. Under the law.

... If we reversed color..and it was a black man armed with a handgun that pursued a white teenager through their own neighborhood.. and that white teenager in defense of their life.. tried to defend themselves and was shot by the black man..

That black man would have been found guilty of manslaughter..

The problem with this argument is that it's no more than your version of something that didn't happen. Anyone can make up a "would have" story. Based on the facts (i.e., what actually did happen), the jury acquitted.

and if the white boy had successfully defended himself and killed the armed black man.. the white boy would be hailed as a hero.

For what it's worth, I'll join in your alternative reality. If what you describe happened - if a white boy (or "white Hispanic" or whatever) beat a black man to death for following him, he would certainly not be a hero in my eyes.
 
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