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Mueller report summary sent to Congress

Cardinal said:
I didn't know you were even eating cheerios. How would I know where they were so that I could pee in them? It's sad that even after getting the White House and both chambers of Congress you'd still feel like a victim. Is there ever an occasion in which you're not a victim?
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:2dance::drink:popcorn2:
 
gulfman said:
Absolutely not.First sue the DNC for the cost of the Mueller report then go after Hillary and the rest of her confederacy of fools .
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You have complained for how many years - yet didn't like the results but are willing to buy the Trump bs lock stock and bilge pump and you call us fools??
WOW that's quite the stretch.
 
j-mac said:
Man you are too much....one of the only ones I know on DP that see a clearly funny post, and have to turn it to ****....Congrats...
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So you have read the entire Mueller Report?
 
Linc said:
House Repubs were caught on hot mic 🎤 admitting that Benghazi was about the election.

But now we have Spineless Democrats saying we should take the high road here, like we all know trumpubs would.

That’s why the GOP owns the Federal Judiciary for decades to come, because Democrats are spineless compared to repubs.
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I think that's changing.
 
Chomsky said:
That's a fair point.

But here's what I'd do if I were the Dems:

Seeing as both the President and Barr can release the full report together, or independently, I'd run hard against Trump to release the report right into 2020. I'd make it personally about him (Trump).

"RELEASE THE REPORT!"

I think the above would be a winning move, when 80% of the public wants the report released.
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I think that's partly what will happen. They also need to have better policies and pound the fact that he has not done one thing he promised he would do.
 
hanger4 said:
True and I hope they do. I hope the House Democratic majority reinvestigates everything Mueller investigated.
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Me too!! The GOP house went so far as to destroy evidence. I hope they prove that.
 
Mach said:
You're trying to rationalize your lack of ethics, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, that's not how ethics work.

There is nothing preventing Republicans from correcting Trump, and demanding he behave, while simultaneously voting to support him, and supporting the policies they do agree with.

Why defer all that power to Trump...you like being his subordinates? Trump is supposed to work for the people. Are you saying Republicans just like being his bitch? Or are they scared? Or is it just as you and I said, they are corrupt and as long as they get what they want, they overlook the bad.

So stop making excuses, look in the mirror, and admit it. Look, if you're really a good person, you can reform based on that. If you're really not a good person, you're holding yourself back with this belief you're really not bad. Unleash the real you, either way :)
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What a load of moralistic tripe and indignation puffery. For all the snorting you never do explain "how ethics work", other than to imagine that Republicans haven't corrected Trump or demanded that he behave - where did you live in during the campaign and the last two years, at the bottom of a salt mine?

Ever heard of Jeff Flake, Ben Sassie, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Ted Cruz, John McCain, Jonah Goldberg, Paul Ryan, Dean Heller, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Rob Portman, Bob Corker, and Lamar Alexander? How about Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida, Justin Amash of Michigan, Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois as well as former Congressmen Joe Scarborough of Florida and J. C. Watts of Oklahoma?

Or maybe you've never heard of John Kasich of Ohio and Brian Sandoval of Nevada, Susana Martinez of New Mexico, Charlie Baker of Massachusetts, and Larry Hogan of Maryland o4former New Jersey Governor Christine Todd Whitman and former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Or didn't you know the anti-Trump world has included previously and/or currently: Glenn Beck, Max Boot, L. Brent Bozell, David Brooks, Mona Charen, Ross Douthat, Erick Erickson, Niall Ferguson, David Frum, Robert George, Michael Gerson, Jonah Goldberg, Stephen Hayes, Margaret Hoover, Robert Kagan, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, Matt Lewis, Dana Loesch, Rich Lowry, Meghan McCain, Michael Medved, Russell Moore, Michael Mukasey, Charles Murray, Ana Navarro, Peggy Noonan, Daniel Pipes, John Podhoretz, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, Steve Schmidt, Thomas Sowell, Ken Starr, Michael Steele, Bret Stephens, Charlie Sykes, Cal Thomas, Nicole Wallace, or George Will?

The notion that Republicans have not demanded better behavior from Trump while supporting him is unfathomable nonsense. Not only have they often sought better behavior, they often have NOT supported him because of it.

If your grasp on ethics is as solid as your perception that no one in the Republican party has criticized Trump for his behavior, I suggest you rush to your nearest junior college and take a course in moral philosophy and current history.
 
maxparrish said:
Not only have [Republicans]often sought better behavior, they often have NOT supported [Trump] because of it.
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Lies. The reality, in contrast to your fantasy, is that Trump enjoys a 90% approval rating among Republicans.

Trump approval by party (R, I, D).

2019
2019 Mar 1-10 90 33 4
2019 Feb 12-28 90 35 6
2019 Feb 1-10 89 38 5
2019 Jan 21-27 88 32 5
2019 Jan 2-10 88 31 6
2018
2018 Dec 17-22 89 39 8
2018 Dec 10-16 86 37 7
2018 Dec 3-9 89 38 7
2018 Nov 26-Dec 2 89 39 6
2018 Nov 19-25 86 34 9
2018 Nov 12-18 90 37 6
2018 Nov 5-11 91 34 5

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump
 
Mach said:
I definitely think the vast majority of it should be released, no doubt
If they really do try to use Barr's summary and such, in their stonewall efforts, that's just sad. I think given the immense pressure on this, they won't win-out. I'd like to think Barr is gonna do the right thing in all meaningful ways.
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The house voted 420 - 0 in favor of releasing the Mueller report.
Mitch McConnell just blocked it in the senate. But hey they look so innocent.:roll::roll:
 
SkyFox76 said:
I've always thought Mueller would do a detailed and efficient investigation. I'm not so sure Barr's conclusion on obstruction will stand just from everything that's known.

I've always thought it was a mistake for the president to open the doors to a SC with the firing of Comey because his life hasn't always been the diary of a choir boy. Mueller farmed out a lot from what I understand. Just another phase that might otherwise have been ovr with had he just let the FBI finish what they started.
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Exactly!!
 
Mach said:
Lies. The reality, in contrast to your fantasy, is that Trump enjoys a 90% approval rating among Republicans.

Trump approval by party (R, I, D).

2019
2019 Mar 1-10 90 33 4
2019 Feb 12-28 90 35 6
2019 Feb 1-10 89 38 5
2019 Jan 21-27 88 32 5
2019 Jan 2-10 88 31 6
2018
2018 Dec 17-22 89 39 8
2018 Dec 10-16 86 37 7
2018 Dec 3-9 89 38 7
2018 Nov 26-Dec 2 89 39 6
2018 Nov 19-25 86 34 9
2018 Nov 12-18 90 37 6
2018 Nov 5-11 91 34 5

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump
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Maybe you need to read what you write before wasting our time with a non-sequitur response. You stated that "There is nothing preventing Republicans from correcting Trump, and demanding he behave, while simultaneously voting to support him, and supporting the policies they do agree with."

I provided a list of many Republicans of some public stature or note, some of whom won't support Trump under any circumstance, and many of whom do EXACTLY what you asserted does not happen - they often correct him for bad behavior but simultaneously support him and/or the policies they do agree with.

So of course those polls show that support of Trump even if those critics do criticize him while supporting him.

My advice, when you shoot an evidentiary gun, remember to shoot at something that will give credibility to your prior claim, not shoot off your own foot.
 
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jghiretire said:
The house voted 420 - 0 in favor of releasing the Mueller report.
Mitch McConnell just blocked it in the senate. But hey they look so innocent.:roll::roll:
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"McConnell countered that the president has had to wait two years while the investigation was ongoing and "it's not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner."

McConnell blocks resolution calling for Mueller report to be released publicly | TheHill
 
jghiretire said:
The house voted 420 - 0 in favor of releasing the Mueller report.
Mitch McConnell just blocked it in the senate. But hey they look so innocent.:roll::roll:
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Yeah, I can't tell at this point if they are just obstructing because that's what Republicans do and have done for ages, or they are honestly trying to prevent it. Seems like we'll eventually find out.
 
Mach said:
Yeah, I can't tell at this point if they are just obstructing because that's what Republicans do and have done for ages, or they are honestly trying to prevent it. Seems like we'll eventually find out.
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It’s both.
 
Tangmo said:
Mueller report stonewalled.
It's also the case that you guys on the Right who remain politically wounded and emotionally scared for life by my recount thread of November 2016 misrepresent it and grossly so. You guys seem to take turns referencing it here and there since. And the farther away we get from it the taller the tales misrepresenting it become. Enuf said by me about an event here of two and a half years ago that gets continual resurrecting depending on how vulnerable and hard pressed youse guyz are over there. And that gets wrongfully characterized by youse in all of youse butthurt that youse took good and hard.
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There is no stonewalling you once again prove why you have no friggen clue what you are talking about.
Just like before. the only butt hurt people are the people that were depending on this report to get rid of trump.
didn't work
no collusion
no obstruction
 
Just had FOX on earlier and one of the guests was Alan Dershowitz. He feels Mueller failed to do his complete job by not making a decision on obstruction and passing the ball.

Then I switched over to MSNBC and same discussion was taking place questioning why Mueller refused to make a decision.

I find myself agreeing. I don't think his conclusion would have been seen in the same sense many are looking at with Barr's stating no, no obstruction.

The video can be seen at this link:

Dershowitz: Mueller '''hedged,''' should have said '''unequivocally''' no obstruction | Fox News
 
SkyFox76 said:
Just had FOX on earlier and one of the guests was Alan Dershowitz. He feels Mueller failed to do his complete job by not making a decision on obstruction and passing the ball.

Then I switched over to MSNBC and same discussion was taking place questioning why Mueller refused to make a decision.

I find myself agreeing.
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Is it possible that he chose a more pragmatic approach? Let just consider the reality we live in. I do not believe that any intelligent person really expected a smoking gun. It is just not the nature of the beast and absent of that circumstantial evidence even strong one would have resulted in possible impeachment and no conviction in in the Senate. A net loss with a possible boost for Trump as the same was for Clinton.
On the other hand, while the rabbit Trump supporters dance and shout no collusion, NY is pursuing diligently the leads uncovered by Mueller. Their actions are not subject to Trump and his minions actions. Wait and see what that brings.
 
Barnacle said:
Don't know, I but I can assure you they weren't for Russian collusion.
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I never said they were. Sheesh! So sick of righties who lack reading comprehension putting words in my mouth and interpreting my posts in accordance with who THEY think I am.
 
Barnacle said:
Ahh, well, there you go. And that's what the democrats were calling for ... until Trump made it happen ...
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Trump does what he does for TRUMP, not for you or me. He couldn't give a rat's ass what any of us think.
 
TamleeB said:
I think there is an assumption by some that those who are accepting of Muellers results besmirched his name in the past, which is not necessarily the case. If I came across arrogant that was truly not my intention. I am glad the Mueller investigation is complete.
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Me, too. Now I need to see it. What do you think our chances are of that?
 
Idiometer said:
I never said they were. Sheesh! So sick of righties who lack reading comprehension putting words in my mouth and interpreting my posts in accordance with who THEY think I am.
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I never put any words in your mouth ... and I never claimed or insinuated that you said anything. :lol:
 
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