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Christchurch attack was a "false flag", conspiracy theorists claim

spud_meister said:
The Truman Show is a work of art, Carrey's magnum opus.:2mad:
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The Truman Show is the USA in a nutshell except, as I recall, it never covered the centuries long USA evil very well.
 
metabunkers, you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. They think evidence is what their lying governments tell them. Nobody is as gullible as Americans.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
What you have to remember is that the Donald Trump mentioned in that pathetic loser's so-called "manifesto" was NOT the same Donald Trump who is the President of the United States of America.

I mean there are at least 4,750 "Donald Trump"s in the United States of America alone, so (just considering the USA) there is only around a 0.02% chance that the murderer was referring to President Donald J Trump and that chance is so small as to be statistically insignificant.

[The above post has been approved by "Devoted Online Lovers of Trump".]
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So it was likely a different DONALD TRUMP referred to is the killers manifesto?
 
apdst said:
The funniest part was when idiots blamed President Trump. :lamo
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The man was credited in the New Zealand killers manifesto.
 
haymarket said:
They are not alone. I love the right wingers who pretend that the Christ Church massacre came from the left wing. Delusional does not begin to describe their desperation to defend the fringe right.
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The evil killer in Christchurch said in his 'manifesto' that the state which he most identifies is communist China. I do not think that this makes him a member of the 'fringe right'. Do you?
 
Sweden said:
The evil killer in Christchurch said in his 'manifesto' that the state which he most identifies is communist China. I do not think that this makes him a member of the 'fringe right'. Do you?
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His racist based hatred is certainly part of the fringe right wing.
 
ralphcdp said:
metabunkers, you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. They think evidence is what their lying governments tell them. Nobody is as gullible as Americans.
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Sadly their are people even more gullible than Americans. They are called Conspiracy Theorists.
 
haymarket said:
His racist based hatred is certainly part of the fringe right wing.
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There is as much hatred on the left as on the right. I cite the British Labour Party - not a fringe group but a very large political party - which is, say many of its members, rife with vile anti-semitism.
 
Sweden said:
There is as much hatred on the left as on the right. I cite the British Labour Party - not a fringe group but a very large political party - which is, say many of its members, rife with vile anti-semitism.
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The New Zealand killer was a right winger who embraced racial hatred and acted accordingly.
 
haymarket said:
The New Zealand killer was a right winger who embraced racial hatred and acted accordingly.
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In your opinion but not in his. In his self-proclaimed 'manifesto' he says he particularly hates converts to Islam. So it is Islam that he attacked not some 'race'.

I know that in your world view anyone who does anything unspeakably bad is, by definition, 'right wing', by it aint necessarily so.
 
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Sweden said:
In your opinion but not in his. In his self-proclaimed 'manifesto' he says he particularly hates converts to Islam. So it is Islam that he attacked not some 'race'.

I know that in your world view anyone who does anything unspeakably bad is, by definition, 'right wing', by it aint necessarily so.
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The New Zealand killer was a right winger. That is a fact. He has been described all over the world as a right winger. It is only the right wing that disputes this out of lying self preservation.
 
haymarket said:
The New Zealand killer was a right winger. That is a fact. He has been described all over the world as a right winger. It is only the right wing that disputes this out of lying self preservation.
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Partly correct. He is described by leftists all over the world as a 'right winger'. Leftists who, to their shame, do not hesitate for a second to attempt to make political capital out of a tragedy.
 
Sweden said:
Partly correct. He is described by leftists all over the world as a 'right winger'. Leftists who, to their shame, do not hesitate for a second to attempt to make political capital out of a tragedy.
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Right libertarians tend to view anybody with a political opinion who is not one of them as a leftist. It comes with the disease.
 
Sweden said:
In your opinion but not in his. In his self-proclaimed 'manifesto' he says he particularly hates converts to Islam. So it is Islam that he attacked not some 'race'.
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Are you being obtuse? Obviously Americans, and White Supremacists in general, associate Islam with brown skinned people. Christ.

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This can be seen now that the racist Southern Strategy has gathered nearly all the racists under the Republican banner:

GOP House candidate once called Obama a secret Muslim

Poll: 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a Muslim

Racists gonna racist, eh. No wonder Trump bases his campaign strategy around his base being largely composed of ignorant cowardly racists. If you're a low enough POS to actually do it, it really is a no brainer strategy, isn't it. And if there's one thing we've learned about Trump, it's that there ain't nobody lower or a bigger POS.



I don't remember any white POTUS being accused of being secret Muslims. Do you?
 
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Sweden said:
In your opinion but not in his. In his self-proclaimed 'manifesto' he says he particularly hates converts to Islam. So it is Islam that he attacked not some 'race'.

I know that in your world view anyone who does anything unspeakably bad is, by definition, 'right wing', by it aint necessarily so.
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The dude already said "He was racist and hateful there-fore he is a right winger". Which defines him as an extreme left winger automatically.
 
Sweden said:
Partly correct. He is described by leftists all over the world as a 'right winger'. Leftists who, to their shame, do not hesitate for a second to attempt to make political capital out of a tragedy.
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No. Actually everyone who isn't out of an alt-right/fascist leaning agrees he was a "right winger".
 
dirtpoorchris said:
The dude already said "He was racist and hateful there-fore he is a right winger". Which defines him as an extreme left winger automatically.
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That's just what Fundamentalist Christian organizations like the KKK are. They're conservative. You know, "right wing."

Jesus, being truthful is now "extreme". I suppose in Trump's America, nobody finds this surprising.

President Trump has made 6,420 false or misleading claims over 649 days

Just a normal day for 1/3 of America, eh?
 
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ralphcdp said:
metabunkers, you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. They think evidence is what their lying governments tell them. Nobody is as gullible as Americans.
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Evidence sure as hell isn't a comment by an anonymous poster who just joined a debate forum sometime this month. What's your actual evidence? Link please.
 
haymarket said:
Right libertarians tend to view anybody with a political opinion who is not one of them as a leftist. It comes with the disease.
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To those out on the extreme right wing, to those out where fascism dwells, everyone else in the world looks like a "leftist".
 
JustHanging said:
That's just what Fundamentalist Christian organizations like the KKK are. They're conservative. You know, "right wing."

Jesus, being truthful is now "extreme". I suppose in Trump's America, nobody finds this surprising.

President Trump has made 6,420 false or misleading claims over 649 days

Just a normal day for 1/3 of America, eh?
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So how come some Australian who hates Muslims falls at Trump's feet? Im not even in favor of this president but I dotn see the line connnecting them. The dude was a Muslim hater from Australia who did an attack in New Zealand. Why arent you raging at the Australian Prime Minister who ranted and warned about the Muslim hate in his country? The shooter also shouted "Subscribe to PewdiePie!" why arent you blaming PewdiePie the youtuber?

I think its probably because you have an accidental agenda and you dotn even know it.

The guy was a psychopathic, wanna-be internnet celebrity, Muslim hater. THATS IT. NOTHING MORE. NOTHING LESS.


He just wanted to be remembered forever and was psychopathic. I say we grant him that privilege and hand him off to Muslim tribal town and record what happens. :rock:bon_voyag:skull::skull::skull:
 
haymarket said:
Trump was listed in the killers manifesto and helped create the climate for the killing spree.
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He also aligns closely with the ideology of China.

Said he’s not a conservative.

Said he’s not a Nazi.

Said he was influenced above all by Candace Owens. Imagine that, a white nationalist praising a black woman.

And last but not least, to keep in context your Trump "helped create the climate", the shooters next sentence asked whether he supported Trump “as a policymaker and leader? Dear God no.”

The shooter's manifesto is a nonpartisan fanatic extremists rant. He drifts all over and attempting to place him in a box is just partisan hackery.
 
hanger4 said:
He also aligns closely with the ideology of China.

Said he’s not a conservative.

Said he’s not a Nazi.

Said he was influenced above all by Candace Owens. Imagine that, a white nationalist praising a black woman.

And last but not least, to keep in context your Trump "helped create the climate", the shooters next sentence asked whether he supported Trump “as a policymaker and leader? Dear God no.”

The shooter's manifesto is a nonpartisan fanatic extremists rant. He drifts all over and attempting to place him in a box is just partisan hackery.
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He can say anything he wants to say. It is what he DID that brands him as a right winger.
 
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