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Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

Casca XV said:
Today "Conservative" is about maintaining the principles of US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Pro Slave Confederates hated the US Constitution just like the Left does today. obama charter of negative liberties - Bing video
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Is that the part of the Constitution where the founders said **** Congress if a President need pander to the base he may disregard the will of Congress and spend money as he pleases? :lamo

What about the part of the Constitution where they said The Press is the Enemy of the People. Or, the part where they said due process for immigrants is a disgrace :lamo

How about the part of the Constitution where it says **** Congress, the President may wage as many wars in countries that didn't attack us as he sees fit.

Oh, man you guys have forever lost ground on claiming you give two ****s about the Constitution, and that fake National emergency was just the icing on the cake. The Constitution bahhahahh Trump is more hostile to the Constitution than snakes to rodents.
 
Casca XV said:
Liberals but not Leftist.

Liberals back then were closer to what Right leaning Libertarians are today. They were Individualists not wannabe Socialists.

The pic in the link say it all as to why the Left jumps on the Civil Right bad wagon


lbj i'll have them voting democrat - Bing
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Don't do that. Not when it's me you're talking to. I know what 'liberal' means, and it hasn't changed in hundreds of years. You bunch of conservatives just realized that the founders of your country were liberals and decided you needed to invent a way you are their heirs so you 'redefined' liberalism. Doesn't fly. Here's a start for you- no liberal would ever be in favour of socialism. Socialism is a left-wing ideology, yes, but no liberal would support it. Ever. And liberals are still fighting for personal rights and liberties. Wanna go further into that subject?
Here's another uncomfortable truth- conservatism hasn't changed in hundreds of years either and when liberals were fighting your revolution conservatives were booking passage to Nova Scotia.
Same as it ever was.
 
Winston said:
Just to keep this thread on track..

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Since 2016 it's only gotten worse, in regards to Radical Right Wing Terror.
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DISQUALIFIED: The ADL is notorious for counting hoaxes and never removing them. They still count the Fort Hood shooter and San Bernardino shooters as work place violence. They counted the Pulse night club shooter a Muslim Registered Democrat who killed 49 as a right wing anti gay attack. They still count the Jewish kid who phoned in bomb threats from Israel as anti sematic.
 
Casca XV said:
DISQUALIFIED: The ADL is notorious for counting hoaxes and never removing them. They still count the Fort Hood shooter and San Bernardino shooters as work place violence. They counted the Pulse night club shooter a Muslim Registered Democrat who killed 49 as a right wing anti gay attack. They still count the Jewish kid who phoned in bomb threats from Israel as anti sematic.
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Your irrational bias noted:

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They aren't wrong.
 
Casca XV said:
DISQUALIFIED: The ADL is notorious for counting hoaxes and never removing them. They still count the Fort Hood shooter and San Bernardino shooters as work place violence. They counted the Pulse night club shooter a Muslim Registered Democrat who killed 49 as a right wing anti gay attack. They still count the Jewish kid who phoned in bomb threats from Israel as anti sematic.
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Lol.

Military Sites And Personnel: A Common Target for Islamic Extremists.

You are being redirected...

The Orlando Shooter’s Many Paths to Violence

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
Casca XV said:
The entire philosophy of MLK was "Judge people by the content of their character not the color of their skin."

The Left sees nothing but skin color, they are more obsessed with it than any Klansmen who ever lived.

As LBJ said "I'll have those N***ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." That is why Leftist Democrats jumped on the Civil Right Band Wagon.

Aside from original slavery every racists policy in all US History came from Democrats.

Over the last 100 years since Woodrow Wilson all racist policies came from Left Wing Democrats.

About 70 years ago The Democrat party realized that Traditional Racism was no longer a winning political strategy. So, they started exploiting racism from the exact opposite direction. Replacing Traditional Racism with Racial Identity Politics and Replacing the KKK (a Democrat invention) with Race bating poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.

Todays Left are still the same nasty racists they have always been.
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Wow, you have really weaved an alternate reality with your cognitive dissonance.

The sad part is that you really don't have the ability to understand how messed up your thinking is.
 
Casca XV said:
The entire philosophy of MLK was "Judge people by the content of their character not the color of their skin."

The Left sees nothing but skin color, they are more obsessed with it than any Klansmen who ever lived.

As LBJ said "I'll have those N***ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." That is why Leftist Democrats jumped on the Civil Right Band Wagon.

Aside from original slavery every racists policy in all US History came from Democrats.

Over the last 100 years since Woodrow Wilson all racist policies came from Left Wing Democrats.

About 70 years ago The Democrat party realized that Traditional Racism was no longer a winning political strategy. So, they started exploiting racism from the exact opposite direction. Replacing Traditional Racism with Racial Identity Politics and Replacing the KKK (a Democrat invention) with Race bating poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.

Todays Left are still the same nasty racists they have always been.
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I repeat, it was liberals, northern republicans and democrats who supported the civil rights laws King proposed and advocated for, conservatives who opposed them. Go back to the 50s, it was liberal democrat Hubert Humphrey who stood up to the segregationists in his own party. White southerners turned from solid democratic to solid republican. LBJ may have welcomed black votes as you suggest, but he predicted the loss of the white South. Why? He signed civil rights legislation. Reagan kicked off his presidential claim in Mississippi, talking about "states rights," code for segregation, not far from where the three civil rights workers were killed. Strangely, he didn't mention the incident. Within months of the gutting of the Voting Rights Act by the Supreme Court, southern legislatures started cutting into black votes through voter ID laws. Strangely, these were the same states that previously denied the vote to blacks.

This doesn't mean that republicans are racists either. Yet black people dont seem to vote for them.
 
Winston said:
Is that the part of the Constitution where the founders said **** Congress if a President need pander to the base he may disregard the will of Congress and spend money as he pleases? :lamo

What about the part of the Constitution where they said The Press is the Enemy of the People. Or, the part where they said due process for immigrants is a disgrace :lamo

How about the part of the Constitution where it says **** Congress, the President may wage as many wars in countries that didn't attack us as he sees fit.

Oh, man you guys have forever lost ground on claiming you give two ****s about the Constitution, and that fake National emergency was just the icing on the cake. The Constitution bahhahahh Trump is more hostile to the Constitution than snakes to rodents.
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You mean Obama who arrested members of the Press at a record rate or Trump who was pointing out that an Honest Press is necessary to any Republic or Democracy and when we have a Press this dishonest they are an Enemy of the People".President Obama’s War on Journalists - Accuracy in Media

You mean Trumps actions at the border that the US Constitution gives a president specific authority to do.

Trump's Immigration Order Is Both Legal and Constitutional

Powers of the President of the United States - Wikipedia
 
beefheart said:
Wow, you have really weaved an alternate reality with your cognitive dissonance.

The sad part is that you really don't have the ability to understand how messed up your thinking is.
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feel free to point out what I got wrong
 
Casca XV said:
You mean Obama who arrested members of the Press at a record rate or Trump who was pointing out that an Honest Press is necessary to any Republic or Democracy and when we have a Press this dishonest they are an Enemy of the People".President Obama’s War on Journalists - Accuracy in Media

You mean Trumps actions at the border that the US Constitution gives a president specific authority to do.

Trump's Immigration Order Is Both Legal and Constitutional

Powers of the President of the United States - Wikipedia
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I mean Conservatives cannot simultaneously support Trump and the Constitution. It's logically impossible. 1+1 doesn't equal 3.
 
Casca XV said:
DISQUALIFIED: The ADL is notorious for counting hoaxes and never removing them. They still count the Fort Hood shooter and San Bernardino shooters as work place violence. They counted the Pulse night club shooter a Muslim Registered Democrat who killed 49 as a right wing anti gay attack. They still count the Jewish kid who phoned in bomb threats from Israel as anti sematic.
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In regards to military, is attacking military targets considered terrorism?
 
Casca XV said:
feel free to point out what I got wrong
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Your entire way of thinking.

Others have done a bang up job refuting your garbage, you didn't read their answers, you won't read mine.
 
Grand Mal said:
Show, don't tell.
I'll go first. Liberals fought in the streets and died for civil rights, and they were fighting and being killed by conservatives. Think of attack dogs and fire hoses and who was holding the hose and the leash and who were on the business end, liberals or conservatives.
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If you have to go that far back in time to actually have a chance here. Then I pity you.
 
Winston said:
Then why is David Duke a Trump supporter and not a Democrat supporter?
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I don't care who David Duke supports. Much like the democrats not caring that Richard Spencer supports their policies.
 
Winston said:
I mean Conservatives cannot simultaneously support Trump and the Constitution. It's logically impossible. 1+1 doesn't equal 3.
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That's nonsense and you know it.
 
Oborosen said:
I don't care who David Duke supports. Much like the democrats not caring that Richard Spencer supports their policies.
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Your post belies that you do care, since you felt compelled to "both sides" it.

BTW:

Alt-Right Gathering Exults in Trump Election With Nazi-Era Salute - The New York Times

Richard Spencer said:
As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a Nazi salute. Mr. Spencer called out: “Hail Trump! Hail our people!” and then, “Hail victory!” — the English translation of the Nazi exhortation “Sieg Heil!” The room shouted back.
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7 pages in and no one denied Trump was factually wrong, according to the FBI.
 
Casca XV said:
Slavery was in America 150 Years before the US. The US did not create slavery it inherited it.

By todays standards The Founding Fathers would have been terrible racists. By the standards of their own time they were the least racist and most anti-slave men on earth. Even slave owners like Washington and Jefferson were appalled by it, but they had laws forbidding them from freeing their slaves.

In 1776 Lithuania was the only country that had a 100% abolition of slavery. The Founding Fathers were some of the only people on earth who were even debating the subject. Most of Europe ended slavery before us because they had no industries that needed it and they had Surfs to work the land, Surfs were not Slaves in name only.

The 3/5ths clause was an anti-slave policy. The Pro-Slave Democrats wanted to use the full Slave population count to increase their representation in Congress. Anti-Slave Republicans came up with the 3/5ths compromise.

Traditional racism is one race hating another. Racial Identity Politics is exploiting race hatred from the opposite direction. The political goals of each are exactly the same.

Aside from original slavery every racists policy in all US History came from Democrats.

Over the last 100 years since Woodrow Wilson all racist policies came from Left Wing Democrats.

About 70 years ago The Democrat party realized that Traditional Racism was no longer a winning political strategy. So, they started exploiting racism from the exact opposite direction. Replacing Traditional Racism with Racial Identity Politics and Replacing the KKK (a Democrat invention) with Race bating poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.

In many ways Racial Identity Politics has hurt and divided America a lot more than Traditional Racism.
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Couple of points. first the understanding whom are democrats and whom are republicans has changed over the past century. For instance there was the "Solid South" or Southern Bloc (electoral voting bloc of the states of the Southern United States for issues that were regarded as particularly important to the interests of Democrats in the southern states) that formed during the Reconstruction Era, and then you have the "Dixiecrats" (Southern Democrats who seceded from the party in 1948 in opposition to its policy of extending civil rights.) The South is now regarded as being a republican stronghold. Secondly. Both Washington and Jefferson owned slaves all way to their deaths. Washington was perhaps more opposed to slavery as an institution than Jefferson. Washington privately expressed a belief that slavery would have to end for the nation/union to survive. The 3/5 Compromise flew directly in the face of Jefferson's flowery Declaration of Independence preamble "that all men are created equal". Apparently the exception back in 1787 was to when it comes to forming a new nation/union and government. The 3/5 Compromise was just that, a compromise. And one somewhat on the order of a pact with the devil. It was a concession to slave owning states that free states felt had to made to get the constitution ratified. Even though it gave the southern slave owning states a disproportionate representation in the House of Representatives relative to the voters in free states. So the institution of slavery in America became codified in our constitution. And with that the seed that would nearly destroy our nation almost 80 years later was planted. Racism is racism. Whether it 'traditional' or overt, or modern and coded. Either way it's still as harmful as ever.
 
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beefheart said:
Your entire way of thinking.

Others have done a bang up job refuting your garbage, you didn't read their answers, you won't read mine.
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If there was one point factually wrong you would have a link showing it. Take your "L" and stop wasting my time
 
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