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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    My friend, you are swimming in the kool-aid. This is the first post I've seen longer than a few sentences where everything that was written is provably false. I mean usually there are at least a few facts sprinkled in to lend credence to your position, but you are completely misinformed. You need to get your information from more reputable and balanced sources.
    Yeah that has white supremists propaganda written all over it...

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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Trump has a core base that's roughly about 35%-37%, that will support him no matter what. Far right wing wacko's like these white nationalist types/nazi's (same ****), make up a a portion of his core support. He's very aware of this fact.

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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Don't be an ass. Racism isn't a left-wing ideology. It's a cornerstone in the conservative temple.
    While blacks can't sit at a Starbucks without the cops being called.

    Liberals are all about black people until one sits next them.
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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Casca XV View Post
    So another propaganda graph that has no link to the incident information they are counting.

    We live in a world where when Leftist reports are actually solved, Jessie Smollett end up being the 90% rule not the exception.

    We live in a world where almost every crime committed by a none leftist is counted as a right wing hate crime or terrorism and the daily attacks by Antifa are ignored.
    Daily attacks by Antifa?

    Well, if you want to count such behavior as terrorism then you have to count every fistfight by Trump's "tough guys" outside of bars as terrorism too. There is a difference between a murder and a fistfight.

    You want a link for statistics about right wing terrorism?

    Here is one from GAO (which is bipartisan). Ing tis two years old but it gives the brand picture





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    Since September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. As shown in figure 2, fatalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violet extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 119, respectively).

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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    It's good to see that I can still touch that same regressive nerve. So long as it remains so damn tender.

    You seem to be ignore the same trap about identity politics, that the left has made their standard over the last three years. Not to mention the acts of sexism and the extended bigotry of low expectations.
    Because in the last few years we've seen the left conflate racism with nearly anything and everything it could. Being it conservatism, all the way to nationalism itself. In the meantime embracing noted racist and sexist themselves.

    Sarah Jeong and Farrakhan and even George Ciccariello-Maher. The lefts protected terrorist groups like Antifa and BLM, or even just criminals in general. So long as their stances have aligned with it's own.
    As for the BLM, the idea that it is a terrorist organization is ludicrous. This is a result of what you have heard from trolls (including Russian trolls) posing deliberately as BLM blacks spreading divisive messages

    The largest Black Lives Matter page on Facebook was a scam - Vox

    Trying to to equate the whole BLM crowd based on the actions of some black terrorists who kill police officers is like trying to equate the Trump crowd based on the action of some nuts who are obviously Trump supporters.

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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    It's because it's a part of his base. Not every Trump voter is a white nationalist, but every white nationalist is a Trump voter. Trump ran the most bigoted campaign since George Wallace, yet he got more Republican Primary votes than any other candidate in history, and that was despite a very crowded field. That tells you all you need to know about the Republican base today.

    They he announced his candidacy and made the following statement:

    "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

    The day Trump made that statement his candidacy for president would have been over in a non-racist party. In the majority of political parties on earth, Trump's candidacy would have been over the day he announced. Yet in the Republican base, they love him precisely because they believe he hates the same groups they hate.
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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by pamak View Post
    As for the BLM, the idea that it is a terrorist organization is ludicrous. This is a result of what you have heard from trolls (including Russian trolls) posing deliberately as BLM blacks spreading divisive messages

    The largest Black Lives Matter page on Facebook was a scam - Vox

    Trying to to equate the whole BLM crowd based on the actions of some black terrorists who kill police officers is like trying to equate the Trump crowd based on the action of some nuts who are obviously Trump supporters.
    Only a racist would argue that Black Lives Matters is a terrorist organization. The fact is, the Republican Party today is basically a white evangelical party. There are more minorities in professional hockey than in the Republican Party. Now why is that? If you ask the typical Trump voter, they will argue that minorities don't vote Republican because either:

    1. They like free stuff

    Or.

    2. They are basically too stupid to know what is good for them.

    They are so damn un-self aware, that they can look at the sea white people at a Trump rally, or for that matter at the Republican National Convention, and it never occurs to them that this lack of diversity in their party might be something they are doing.
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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    What do you expect? White nationalists are part of trump's base. He's always going to tacitly support them while taking every opportunity to beat down Muslim folks and immigrants. It's what keeps the current, broken GOP going these days, unfortunately.
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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Here are some other statistics from the liberal and supposedly more tolerant NY

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    https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/c...ual-report.pdf

    Hate Crime in New York State 2016 Annual Report


    Crimes Against Persons


    Within the anti-religion category, anti-Jewish bias (49) and anti-Islamic bias (29) accounted for 78 of the 83 incidents.

    If one takes in consideration the relative small Muslim population in NY (2% of the NY population) he can see that Muslims in NY are actually more vulnerable personally than even religious Jews (5% of the NY population) since the crimes against Muslim persons per capita in NY is actually higher.

    Here is a site with the population percentages of the different religions in NY

    The Religion and Politics of New York: A State Portrait from PRRI’s American Values Atlas | PRRI

    Who do you think is attacking the Muslims in NY? Is it the extremist left or the extremist right?
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    Re: Trump on white nationalism: Not a rising threat

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    The 'destruction of prosperous societies' that I am aware of those in Rhodesia, South Africa
    & Venezuela were definitely not caused by what you call 'white supremacy' those prosperous societies were actually created by
    white statesmen and were destroyed by an ill equipped non-white majorities who now after that damage would take back their votes if they could in these states where democracy failed.


    BINGO!

    1. After World War II, the people in many colonies made a BIG mistake in demanding immediate independence.

    2. What they got was corrupt and brutal government instead of genuine independence.

    3. If their European big brothers had been allowed to tutor them for a longer period, maybe some of those countries today (like Zimbabwe) would be prosperous, peaceful, and orderly nations.

    (I have a suspicion that many Hong Kongers wish that their rulers were still the British.)

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