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Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

noonereal said:
pulling out of TPP and the Iran Deal

bickering with China and Western Europe

This guy is a disaster unlike anything we have ever seen.
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Well, western Europe is now more in compliance with NATO regarding military expenditures and China needed to be bickered with. And I oppose both the Iran deal and TPP so dont believe it will weaken Americans.
 
dixon01767 said:
Im not rich and I received a tax cut. And I dont feel weaker because of it.
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Consider yourself fortunate. Consider America and the ever climbing debt to be the losers.
 
haymarket said:
Tax cuts for the rich and corporate America for one.
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Impeaching Trump isnt a proper reaction to the tax cuts you oppose. Why not also impeach all the Republican members of Congress who approved it?
 
Not a problem.

[FONT=&quot]"I had an obligation to bring to the attention of appropriate officials unproven accusations I could not assess myself, and which, were any of them true, would create a vulnerability to the designs of a hostile foreign power," McCain and co-author Mark Salter wrote in the book. "I discharged that obligation, and I would do it again. Anyone who doesn't like it can go to hell."[/FONT]
 
Jack Hays said:
Not a problem.

[FONT="]"I had an obligation to bring to the attention of appropriate officials unproven accusations I could not assess myself, and which, were any of them true, would create a vulnerability to the designs of a hostile foreign power," McCain and co-author Mark Salter wrote in the book. "I discharged that obligation, and I would do it again. Anyone who doesn't like it can go to hell."[/FONT]
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He gave it to a dozen media outlets, none of them "appropriate officials". Johnny was full of ****.
 
GDViking said:
Just because charges have not yet been filed means nothing, the evidence is overwhelming...
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By evidence you mean some Russians offered the Trump campaign dirt on Hillary and they accepted it. Not anything they can be "charged" with.
 
Jack Hays said:
He did the right thing.

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[h=3][URL="https://news.yahoo.com/former-sen-john-mccain-apos-121722875.html"]Former Sen. John McCain's role in Trump dossier intrigue detailed in deposition[/URL][/h]David Kramer's testimony in a case connected with the Steele dossier's publication provided new revelations about the late Sen. John McCain's role.



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Do you understand that YOUR source confirms my claim?
 
dixon01767 said:
Impeaching Trump isnt a proper reaction to the tax cuts you oppose. Why not also impeach all the Republican members of Congress who approved it?
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Why do you bring up impeachment in connection with tax cuts for the rich or corporations.
 
Mycroft said:
Nonsense.

McCain wasn't thinking about the country. He was thinking about himself and his buddies.

McCain's actions were motivated solely on the fact that he recognized that Trump was a threat to him and the rest of the Congressional Elites.
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Non-sense? I don't think so.

Sen. McCain believed fully in the western balance of power. To that, he believed that the European and U.S. alliance shouldn't be upset. I believe McCain was concerned that that alliance would be threatened with a Trump presidency considering his views on NATO and his nationalist take. Now, if you believe that's him seeing Trump as a threat to his elitist self interest fine...that's your whacked out opinion. I believe McCain believed Trump sitting at the seat of the power had the potential to upset the balance of power across the western hemisphere OR potentially be compromised to the degree that that power balance could become destabilized. Was he being paranoid? Look at the disruptions Trump has caused in U.S./NATO alliances to date and you tell me.
 
Objective Voice said:
Non-sense? I don't think so.

Sen. McCain believed fully in the western balance of power. To that, he believed that the European and U.S. alliance shouldn't be upset. I believe McCain was concerned that that alliance would be threatened with a Trump presidency considering his views on NATO and his nationalist take. Now, if you believe that's him seeing Trump as a threat to his elitist self interest fine...that's your whacked out opinion. I believe McCain believed Trump sitting at the seat of the power had the potential to upset the balance of power across the western hemisphere OR potentially be compromised to the degree that that power balance could become destabilized. Was he being paranoid? Look at the disruptions Trump has caused in U.S./NATO alliances to date and you tell me.
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The only power McCain was afraid Trump would upset is the globalist power that supplied McCain's bread and butter...at the expense of the American people.
 
JANFU said:
From what I recall the FBI had the SD in August 2016 well prior to McCain?
Many news orgs had the dossier as well as McCain and others, but no one was publishing, until Buzzfeed did.
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From John McCain's memoir titled '"The Restless Wave: Good Times, Just Causes, Great Fights, and Other Appreciations"

[snip]McCain previously acknowledged getting a copy of the dossier, which was authored by Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 officer, and giving it to the FBI, which already was aware of the material.

"I had an obligation to bring to the attention of appropriate officials unproven accusations I could not assess myself, and which, were any of them true, would create a vulnerability to the designs of a hostile foreign power," McCain writes in the book. "I discharged that obligation, and I would do it again. Anyone who doesn't like it can go to hell."[/snip]

What we're seeing from Trump is just more hatred and vindictiveness for a man who can't even defend himself, and that's the sign of a very weak man. Years ago, when Donald Trump was sipping martini's with Roy Cohn in NY at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in New York, John McCain was sleeping on a wood-slat be in the 'Hanoi Hilton Hotel' suffering the injuries he sustained in his plane crash in Vietnam. The sheer force of the ejection from his aircraft broke his right leg and both arms, his leg had fractured at the knee –- one of his captors slammed a rifle butt into his right shoulder, shattering it. He was then bayoneted in the abdomen and foot. Between Donald Trump and John McCain, one of these two men had character, the other just is a character.

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John McCain's capture in Vietnam in 1968, he was semi-conscious as his captors ripped at his clothes
 
MauiMan said:
The idea that Trump is infatuated with women pissing on each other is...humorous. People that are into this kind of perversion call it “golden showers”. Trump likes gold and golden stuff, right?
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Meh. :shrug: Not my thing. Rather doubt that its Trump's either.
It is sad that a James Bond type spy came up with this.
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Retired and washed up, from what I seem to recall. Politically biased to be sure. What did the FBI call him? Unsuitable to be a source, I think it was. What makes this bizarre set of claims from an FBI deemed unsuitable source have any more credibility and rumors?
Why and how? Is this what Putin has on Trump? Kompromat is a standard KGB ploy, so it’s not too far fetched that they might have videos of Trump doing this—and then extorting him. This is, actually, what is at the core of the counterintelligence concern that the FBI has. It’s certainly within Trump’s sick character. For example:

Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women - The New York Times

“I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.” — Donald Trump

“I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the *****. You can do anything.” — Donald Trump
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None of which makes the 'golden showers' any more likely.
 
JANFU said:
From what I recall the FBI had the SD in August 2016 well prior to McCain?
Many news orgs had the dossier as well as McCain and others, but no one was publishing, until Buzzfeed did.
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McCain's friend in Australia tipped him off. McCain did what everyone should do. He put country over party.
I didn't agree with his policies but to call him dirty?? WOW
 
trixare4kids said:
McCain lied about having no role in giving the unverified document to the media.
Some people would call that sedition. He wanted to hurt a sitting president, and possibly in doing so, jeopardize national security.

Our country has never been more divided. You going to give McCain a pass on his role?
He's the asshole who got the ball rolling.............
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If he lied about it, why did he mention it in his book??
 
eohrnberger said:
Meh. :shrug: Not my thing. Rather doubt that its Trump's either.

Retired and washed up, from what I seem to recall. Politically biased to be sure. What did the FBI call him? Unsuitable to be a source, I think it was. What makes this bizzare set of claims from an FBI deemed unsuitable source have any more credibility and rumors?


None of which makes the 'golden showers' any more likely.
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It attracted the attention of law enforcement. The possibility of the existence of Russian kompromat, coupled with Trump’s weird rhetoric and bizarre behavior toward the Russians, raised the specter that the President of the United States was being extorted by the Russian government. This possibility required the FBI to open a counterintelligence investigation of the president.

“In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.” — The New York Times

F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia - The New York Times

So, it doesn’t matter if the British agent was washed up. Nor does it matter if Trump is perverted. The concern is whether or not the President of the United States is under the influence of a foreign, hostile government. If you think our law enforcement shouldn’t investigate that possibility, then...well, that seems pretty stupid.
 
jghiretire said:
If he lied about it, why did he mention it in his book??
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Yeah, right? I read it, too.

McCain was an absolute patriot from a military family who dedicated his life to the service of his country. He endured unimaginable suffering as a POW in Vietnam. Then—many years later—along comes this rich, loudmouthed, entitled, crooked asshole whose daddy got him a medical draft deferment after his college deferments ran out.

Trump’s actions show you what kind of a patriot he is—all talk. He hugs flags and talks big, but he is no leader. It’s the president’s job to unify the nation. Trump has fostered division. Terrible leader.

McCain was dedicated to the Constitution of the United States.
Trump is dedicated to—himself.
 
CharisRose said:
Please provide your credentials for diagnosing mental illness. TIA

Roseann:)
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If you want proper credentials, see the people who wrote in THE DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD TRUMP edited by Dr. Bandy Lee.
 
MauiMan said:
It attracted the attention of law enforcement. The possibility of the existence of Russian kompromat, coupled with Trump’s weird rhetoric and bizarre behavior toward the Russians, raised the specter that the President of the United States was being extorted by the Russian government. This possibility required the FBI to open a counterintelligence investigation of the president.

“In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.” — The New York Times

F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia - The New York Times

So, it doesn’t matter if the British agent was washed up. Nor does it matter if Trump is perverted. The concern is whether or not the President of the United States is under the influence of a foreign, hostile government. If you think our law enforcement shouldn’t investigate that possibility, then...well, that seems pretty stupid.
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No, not attracted. Implanted, force fed.

From how many different sources offered this to the FBI again?

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haymarket said:
Why do you bring up impeachment in connection with tax cuts for the rich or corporations.
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Because impeachment is the only legal means to remove the President and the topic of YOUR discussion. .

haymarket said:
Trump is forever tainted by his extreme narcissism and never ever will be clean. He is a monster that cannot be controlled and seeks more victims. He must be removed ASAP by any legal mean necessary.
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MauiMan said:
McCain was dedicated to the Constitution of the United States.
Trump is dedicated to—himself.
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He was a swamp creature who sought to use the IRS to bankrupt the Tea Party groups who dared to oppose him. He advocated for years to get rid of obamacare and then casted the deciding vote to save it to spite Trump AND was key in dissimenating the Russian propaganda in the dossier. Serving in vietnam is honorable but doesnt transform a dishonorable snake into something else.
 
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