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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I read the entire Steele Deposition and he names no sources.
    Well, I wouldn't figure that his sources would be in the dossier itself. Form where Vanity Fair got these quotes is a fair question.
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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Well, I wouldn't figure that his sources would be in the dossier itself. Form where Vanity Fair got these quotes is a fair question.
    I wouldn't trust Vanity as far as I could throw them.

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Because this is not breaking news, it was common knowledge that McCain turned over a copy to the FBI as soon as it was given to him...
    I heard him admit he's the one that turned it over. Not sure where it comes from that he lied. Must be Fox, right?
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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by jghiretire View Post
    I heard him admit he's the one that turned it over. Not sure where it comes from that he lied. Must be Fox, right?
    Could just be one of those viral emails cultists like to share and believe...

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I wouldn't trust Vanity as far as I could throw them.
    How far do you think you could throw Trump and Fox News?

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    This dossier should have never been released to the media.
    The public should have never even known about it until the congressional judiciary committee and the GAO told us how the FBI used it to spy on US citizens illegally. And then they should have only known there was an unverified document that FBI used as a tool to go after Trump and the Trump admin; the latter they squeezed to go after Trump.

    The public should have never seen the document but thanks to McCain and his vindictiveness and Trump vendetta, here we are.
    I'm a little confused about what the standard for the media is here. Fox News (and many other right wing outlets) ran with the "Democrats murdered Seth Rich" bull**** for weeks. Why is that fair game, but not the dossier? Same with Jerome Corsi's book about the Obama birth certificate - it was bull**** from start to finish but right wing outlets went with that nonsense for YEARS. Why should the public be shielded from the dossier, but not Corsi's bull****, and I'm assuming for the sake of argument the dossier was all false?

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Actually, if you watch the video, read the transcript, Trump was saying that if you are famous you can get away with doing that, not that he had done that himself.

    But since when would anyone expect any sort of accuracy from the media when it comes to their reporting on Trump. Right? So often wrong they've been, almost count on it.
    That's too much to let slide. He was obviously boasting about what HE gets away with. He might have been full of crap, but there's no question he's referring to DJT:

    Trump: Yeah, thatís her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, Iím automatically attracted to beautiful ó I just start kissing them. Itís like a magnet. Just kiss. I donít even wait. And when youíre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

    Bush: Whatever you want.

    Trump: Grab íem by the pussy. You can do anything.

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    The Prague thing has not been debunked, just not verified.

    Cohen claims it wasn't him, however we do not know that it was not someone else, and I am still not sure it wasn't Cohen...
    You can't prove a negative. Even Isikoff admits that parts of the dossier are likely false. He said reporters have scoured Prague and can find no evidence that Cohen has ever been there.
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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Good question.

    According to Wiki,

    Doesn't seem likely Comey had the dossier before then.

    TrumpĖRussia dossier - Wikipedia

    If you know of something else, let us know.

    That's because it was unverified. McCain didn't care though....He just wanted to get it out there, lie about his role, and ruin Trump.
    The dossier was given to David Kramer -- a former State Department official and McCain associate. He was responsible for getting copies of the dossier to a dozen journalists at outlets including CNN, BuzzFeed and The Washington Post. McCain denied and lied that he had a role in the dossier getting to BuzzFeed.
    Glenn Simpson said Steele went to the FBI (in Europe, first, Greece as I recall):

    https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/I...0118-SD002.pdf

    MR. SIMPSON: He originally said: I think we should go -- this information
    is national security information. I think we should report it to the FBI. That was
    in July or late June, shortly after the first memo.

    MR. ROONEY: Sixteen?
    MR. SIMPSON: Sixteen.
    Later on Simpson puts it around July 5 or 6.

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    Re: Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So in other words, this particular copy of the Steele dossier was never vetted by US intelligence analysts before being used by the FBI?

    Considering its foreign source (From Russian Intel to Steele to the FBI), one would have thought this to be standard practice and a wise precaution, considering where it was going to be used, i.e. FISA court in support of a FISA warrant.

    Me thinks someone dropped the ball here, perhaps on purpose.
    Steele met with the FBI in early July 2016. This is well known, so I'm not sure why you're talking about copies of the dossier released months later.

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