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Court files reveal role of McCain, aide in spreading anti-Trump dossier

Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post

it is scary to me how many of those who fashion themselves as patriots are so vested in destroying a person because their person didn't win. I can see how good people could have been manipulated by deep state and the news media to believe anything and everything that comes out is bad and believable even though it has proven to be true.

What the trump presidency as revealed is how unstable leftist really are and that they are not mentally able to deal with people.
Some guy just had this car tires slashed by a woman becausee he had a maga hat in his car.

seriously? i mean seriously?
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if you are so unhinged that you have to destroy peoples property because of a view they have then you have serious issues.
that is how unhinged these leftists are.



Yeah I saw a piece about a woman that rammed a guy's car because he had a Trump bumper sticker on it. She was arrested for hit and run. My favorite was the woman that was stealing Trump signs from a guy's yard . He had put the sign on a long tether. When she it the end of the tether she was sent sprawling. He had it on security video. :lamo
 
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SLC said:
So HRC and the DNC pay Russian agents for dirt on Trump but you are worried about a Russian Lawyer that wanted to talk about Russian adoption and had no dirt on Hillary. Weird.

You do know Politico isn't a valid source. :lol:
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Heck, you probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if you actually believe any of that fairy tale nonsense.
 
lurchadams said:
Hey, Buddy! Coming down to San Antonio the week of the 25th. Unbeknownst to my company, they're going to put me up in a B&B on the Riverwalkthis time :)
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Try Las Canarias to eat if you can. If you have not seen it already check out the Alamo. I have family that fought in the battle of San Jacinto.


Helsinki summit: Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence - CNNPolitics

Report: Trump Directed Cohen to Lie About Moscow Tower Project | Vanity Fair
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Vanity Fair and CNN? Seriously Lurch? Can't you find an unbiased source?

Never mind that neither of those articles rise to the level of treason. How do I know? If either one exposed treason Mueller would be on it like a fly on sh**. Try again.

Have a go time in San Antonio! If you get bored try Gurene Texas and eat at the Grist Mill about an hour from San Antonio.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Heck, you probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if you actually believe any of that fairy tale nonsense.
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Its a fact that HRC funneled money Steele through Perkins Coie to Steele via Fusion GPS. Steele himself said his sources were Russian Agents deep within the Kremlin. So money from Hillary and the DNC funded getting dirt on Trump from agents from the Kremlin.

I bet Putin loved feeding disinformation to Steele. :lol:
 
GDViking said:
Nope not a one...
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Yeah, but bad guys are good guys if Trump says so. And of course anyone who doesn't worship at the feet of Trump isn't part of the cult, and is thus bad by definition.
 
lurchadams said:
Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! You mean John McCain lied to help expose a traitor? Good for him! I wish more GOP politicians would find a spine and expose trump for the lying traitorous piece of **** he is.

John McCain is the last good GOP politician.
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So, you've bought into the political propaganda 'news' media's constant narrative barrage have you?

What courtroom level evidence have you to offer to demonstrate any treason that you, and any TDS afflicted, have imagined? Any at all?

From what any reasonable person would have gathered, the 2+ years of political propaganda 'news' media's constant barrage of gaslighting on 'Trump / Russian' collusion has completely and utterly fallen apart. How is this imagined 'treason' any different?

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

In actuality, John McCain, the political elite, mainline injected fabricated poison, just like fentanyl, into the federal government's LEO and IC. More deep state crap.
 
SCrider said:
Are these the Facts that you rely on to make your "informed" opinion on?
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#FollowTheMoney

Donor money =>HRC=> DNC=> Perkins Coie => Fusion GPS => Steele=> senior foreign ministry figure, top level Russian intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin. Seniorr Kremlin official.

It appears Kremlin was playing both sides against each other - Chicago Tribune

In the Clinton case, Fusion GPS, the firm working on the Trump opposition research, paid Steele, a foreigner, with the campaign’s money. Britain, of course, is a U.S. ally; Russia is an adversary. But the information Steele produced came mainly from Russian sources. Unlike lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who once did legal work for the domestic intelligence arm of the Russian spy agency known as FSB in a minor property dispute, these sources were really well-connected, if Steele is to be believed. They included, according to the version of his dossier published by BuzzFeed, “a senior Russian foreign ministry figure,” “a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin,” “a senior Russian financial official” and “a senior Kremlin official.”
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Putin and his misinformation campaign is playing the Democrats Trump haters live a Stradivarius :lol: You guys are taking it Hook Line And Sinker.
 
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SLC said:
#FollowTheMoney

Donor money =>HRC=> DNC=> Perkins Coie => Fusion GPS => Steele=> senior foreign ministry figure, top level Russian intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin. Seniorr Kremlin official.

It appears Kremlin was playing both sides against each other - Chicago Tribune



Putin and his misinformation campaign is playing the Democrats Trump haters live a Stradivarius :lol: You guys are taking it Hook Line And Sinker.
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I suppose that you have proof that any informant, be they Russian or otherwise was payed by Perkins Cole, Fusion GPS or Orbis. Time to put up or shutup.
 
Atomic Kid said:
I suppose that you have proof that any informant, be they Russian or otherwise was payed by Perkins Cole, Fusion GPS or Orbis. Time to put up or shutup.
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Steele would have paid some; others may have volunteered. That's the way it works.
 
trixare4kids said:
Please verify that Fox New's headline mentioned in the O/P is false.
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I didn't claim it was false. Why the straw man?

Lay it out for us... I'm betting you never read either one of the depositions, (Steeles or Kramers) unsealed and released on Th.
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I read Steele's and didn't see much there and haven't seen much quoted other than what's been known for at least months. I read part of Kramers. What did I miss? If it's that McCain might have spread it, OK, could be. But you ignored the question in my post. Why is it terrible if CNN runs with an unverified "dossier" for weeks, but not years of birther BS? Or Fox running for weeks or months with the bogus Seth Rich nonsense? Before that the Vince Foster murder, etc.....................

McCain was directly implicated by Kramer who acted as an intermediary when meeting with Steele. Kramer says he has NO idea how copies of the dossier were given to about a dozen media outlets but he does admit sharing the dossier with Buzzfeed and then when they published it acted "so shocked" and "upset." I don't believe that last part of his testimony. Kramer wanted it out there, and I suspect, while I cannot prove, McCain did as well.
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I think the problem is you assume the entire "Russian collusion" story is bogus, and that it was made up from whole cloth by people who just wanted to smear Trump. So if McCain wanted the story out there it was because he's a traitor who didn't like Trump and wanted to use something he knew was bogus to take him down. I don't share that view.
 
Jack Hays said:
Steele would have paid some; others may have volunteered. That's the way it works.
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Yeah and I suppose you were there for it all. Now who is posting **** that they don't know. You've got some proof of that, Jack? If not you can take that same advice.
 
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Re-upping this from May: "We should be clear about this. John McCain haunts the Trump White House, not because of his votes or policy disagreements, but because he represents the man that Donald Trump cannot ever be."
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McCain giving the dossier to the FBI was an act of patriotism. The Trump cult looks at that act as betrayal, because they ARE a cult. They care more about their Fearless Leader than they do their country, facts or the truth.
 
trixare4kids said:
Because the final version, the updated version and memos, of the Steele document and subsequent memos were released in Dec. '16.

Originally released were only 33 pages... In Dec. it became 35 pages.
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I guess my point is the FBI was getting the reports which made up the "dossier" from the beginning, because Steele was in regular contact with them from July 6 or so on.
 
trixare4kids said:
Don't accuse me of being a liar when if you weren't so lazy you could easily read the depositions linked above and see for yourself.

If you don't have the time to read the aforementioned deposition, here is a brief summary.
Deposition Reveals Late Senator McCain’s Role in Spygate Scandal
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Nothing in what you quoted or the parts of the links I read indicated anything like "If you read Steele's testimony from the scribd link, he wouldn't say who his sources were and apparently Comey's FBI didn't care either."

You've in other replies have quoted testimony that Steele named his sources to Kramer, and it's inconceivable a former member of British intelligence would make an effort to share his reports with the FBI and refuse to name his sources to them. The reports are worthless to anyone in intelligence without those names. Nothing in anything you quoted indicates the FBI didn't CARE who his sources were.

So it's not that I'm "lazy" but that I do in fact know a lot of the details and know your summary of them was complete nonsense, baseless, made up.
 
trixare4kids said:
The FBI told you that Steele's sources are on the up and up?
Um, when????
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Holy moving the goal posts to another city Batman!!

Post ANY evidence that the FBI from July 2016 through (pick a date - your choice) didn't care about who Steele's sources were. Anything. Post any evidence, testimony, etc. that Steele didn't share his sources in that first meeting in July 2016. I'll wait right here while you cannot do it.
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If you'd like to address my ACTUAL question, do it. But don't insult me by changing my question to something I didn't ask.... :roll:
 
Atomic Kid said:
I suppose that you have proof that any informant, be they Russian or otherwise was payed by Perkins Cole, Fusion GPS or Orbis. Time to put up or shutup.
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Its Perkins Coie not Perkins Cole. It makes no difference if the informants were paid or not . I assume they didn't give the information out of the goodness of their heart and there is a 20 year prison sentence in Russia for that kind of thing. But it makes no difference if they got anything. Hillary and the DNC paid for the information that they provided. And that makes a HUGE difference.

They were probably given a bonus by Putin for doing such a great job screwing with the Democrats little minds. :lol:
 
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SLC said:
Try Las Canarias to eat if you can. If you have not seen it already check out the Alamo. I have family that fought in the battle of San Jacinto.


Vanity Fair and CNN? Seriously Lurch? Can't you find an unbiased source?

Never mind that neither of those articles rise to the level of treason. How do I know? If either one exposed treason Mueller would be on it like a fly on sh**. Try again.

Have a go time in San Antonio! If you get bored try Gurene Texas and eat at the Grist Mill about an hour from San Antonio.
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I'll try that Las Carnitas, thanks! Can never get enough Tex-Mex! I've been to the Alamo several times. I stay at a hotel that's walking distance from it.

I realize the sources are biased, but what trump did in Helsinki was nationally televised. We all saw it. If you don't think bashing our own intelligence agencies publicly while kissing up hard to a brutal dictator that just attacked us - you obviously perceive things differently than I.

Regarding trump lying about "no deals in Russia": Based on what I know about trump, I think it's pretty likely that's true.

I'm headed to Northern CA on Tues. I might take the skiis with me to get one of the bigger resorts in the Sierras while ski season is still happening!

Have a great week!
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eohrnberger said:
So, you've bought into the political propaganda 'news' media's constant narrative barrage have you?

What courtroom level evidence have you to offer to demonstrate any treason that you, and any TDS afflicted, have imagined? Any at all?

From what any reasonable person would have gathered, the 2+ years of political propaganda 'news' media's constant barrage of gaslighting on 'Trump / Russian' collusion has completely and utterly fallen apart. How is this imagined 'treason' any different?

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

In actuality, John McCain, the political elite, mainline injected fabricated poison, just like fentanyl, into the federal government's LEO and IC. More deep state crap.
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You're from MO, and "show you"?

Well, I'm from WA, so bl _ _ me! <-- just kidding :)

I mean - courtroom level evidence? What courtroom level evidence has inspired the right's convicting the Clintons of all kinds of horrible **** over the past 30 years including an underground pedophile den in a pizza parlour in NY?

Our president's a piece if ****. You know it I know it. The difference between you and I is that I have come to terms with it.
 
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