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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    It should come as no surprise that a right wing killer should admire Trump. A left wing crazy might cite Che Guevara and an islamist praise bin Laden. Sadly they all have their heroes. That doesn't mean we can lay it all at Trump's feet just because some of his views and those of his followers are somewhat similar. The vast majority would never go and shoot up a Mosque.

    However Trump does deserve some minor blame for emboldening a resurgent right to believe its time has come. It's impossible to say this or other racially motivated attacks both at home and abroad would not have happened were it not for the Age of Trump, but they sure have gone up in recent years.

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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity' | TheHill

    One of the suspects in a pair of deadly New Zealand mosque shootings wrote in a manifesto that he supported President Trump "as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose," according to The Washington Post.

    The suspected shooter reportedly wrote in a more than 70-page manifesto that he somewhat supported Trump: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
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    Trump's message of hatred & intolerance toward 'non-whites, non-Christians' seems to have had worldwide appeal to all the wrong people.
    In other words, the shooter is NOT a Trump supporters, but is anti-Trump, meaning by your messages you and the shooter are on the same page about President Trump.

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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity' | TheHill

    One of the suspects in a pair of deadly New Zealand mosque shootings wrote in a manifesto that he supported President Trump "as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose," according to The Washington Post.

    The suspected shooter reportedly wrote in a more than 70-page manifesto that he somewhat supported Trump: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
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    Trump's message of hatred & intolerance toward 'non-whites, non-Christians' seems to have had worldwide appeal to all the wrong people.
    Just your usual partisan hackery of President Trump hate! It's garbage like this that will help president Trump win reelection in 2020.
    Just more of it's president Trumps fault.... No matter what it is!
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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by uptower View Post
    right wing killer should admire Trump.
    You left out eco-terrorist, anti-capitalist, and communist sympathizer (all of which hate anything Trump stands for). In other words, he didn't know what the hell he stood for.


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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    White Guy = Lunatic
    Brown Guy = Terrorist

    Got the playbook down everybody?
    Nothing says that they can't be both. What is the big deal with nomenclature - will the courts in New Zealand handle the accused any differently if the media in the US calls him a terrorist, gunman, or mass murderer?
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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity' | TheHill

    One of the suspects in a pair of deadly New Zealand mosque shootings wrote in a manifesto that he supported President Trump "as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose," according to The Washington Post.

    The suspected shooter reportedly wrote in a more than 70-page manifesto that he somewhat supported Trump: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
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    Trump's message of hatred & intolerance toward 'non-whites, non-Christians' seems to have had worldwide appeal to all the wrong people.
    Obama said that the Cambridge police acted stupidly, and forevermore he was blamed for every shooting of a police officer.

    Trump, aided and abetted by his right hand troll Stephen Miller, has been trash talking Muslims for 2 years, including recently telling his drooling fans that Muslims were in the caravans from Honduras who were coming this way to rape our children and kill us all, and he bears no responsibility.

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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    You left out eco-terrorist, anti-capitalist, and communist sympathizer (all of which hate anything Trump stands for). In other words, he didn't know what the hell he stood for.


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    Yes he had a pretty broad swathe of issues, which is why I said Trump can't be blamed entirely for this guy's actions.

    He called himself an eco-fascist, whatever that is, which shows that despite his hatred of brown people, he apparently cares for the environment. So what? He may also have a favorite flavor of ice cream, but that is not the side of his personality relevant to his actions as a mass shooter or his choice of targets.

    His environmentalism, economic concerns and preferred ice cream didn't drive him to kill Muslims: hatred of brown people did. And that's the part he shares with Trump. He claims to have been inspired by Trump. Trump inspires other ethno-nationalists. On that count at least they're kindred spirits.

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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    Not like the president just threatened all who oppose him with violence from his supporters this week or anything? Or has said anything degrading about Muslims? Or spread narratives about a slow rolling invasion into this country?
    You he suggested that the violence and anarchy favored by the left may actually come back on them? Or that, horrors, SOME Muslims are terrorists? Seems like entering another country illegally in record numbers just might be a "slow rolling invasion. Got anything else?
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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    White Guy = Lunatic
    Brown Guy = Terrorist

    Got the playbook down everybody?
    It's not an either/or choice.
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    Re: New Zealand suspect wrote in manifesto he supported Trump 'as a symbol of renewed white identity

    Quote Originally Posted by uptower View Post
    Yes he had a pretty broad swathe of issues, which is why I said Trump can't be blamed entirely for this guy's actions.

    He called himself an eco-fascist, whatever that is, which shows that despite his hatred of brown people, he apparently cares for the environment. So what? He may also have a favorite flavor of ice cream, but that is not the side of his personality relevant to his actions as a mass shooter or his choice of targets.

    His environmentalism, economic concerns and preferred ice cream didn't drive him to kill Muslims: hatred of brown people did. And that's the part he shares with Trump. He claims to have been inspired by Trump. Trump inspires other ethno-nationalists. On that count at least they're kindred spirits.
    His stated ultimate objective was to get everybody agitated and arguing. Seems that objective hit its mark.


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