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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongidig View Post
    You guy's are more concerned about a Trump Tweet than the fact that 49 people have lost there lives.

    Get a life!
    49 people dying didn't make Mr. Trump look like an insensitive dork - he accomplished that all by himself.
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually don't believe in the death penalty for heinous acts.

    I would prefer they get life without parole in a 4x8 cell without a window. No TV no books. Nothing. Sit there and think about what you did as you go slowly insane.

    THAT would be a ****ing deterrent.
    Actually, if you look at the studies, the PUNISHMENT seldom has an actual deterrent effect.

    For "property crimes" and "white collar crimes" the deterrent is "I will get caught.", but the average person committing those crimes simply doesn't believe that they WILL get caught.

    For crimes of violence (without economic motive) the time between "thinking about committing" and "actually committing" is generally too short to allow for any rational introspection.

    For "mass shootings" the prospect of punishment simply doesn't enter into the "I'm going to show THEM!" that causes the crime to be committed (and the realization that they likely won't survive the commission of the crime does tend to introduce a "What the HELL!! I'm STILL going to show THEM!!" motivation.
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Actually, if you look at the studies, the PUNISHMENT seldom has an actual deterrent effect.

    For "property crimes" and "white collar crimes" the deterrent is "I will get caught.", but the average person committing those crimes simply doesn't believe that they WILL get caught.

    For crimes of violence (without economic motive) the time between "thinking about committing" and "actually committing" is generally too short to allow for any rational introspection.

    For "mass shootings" the prospect of punishment simply doesn't enter into the "I'm going to show THEM!" that causes the crime to be committed (and the realization that they likely won't survive the commission of the crime does tend to introduce a "What the HELL!! I'm STILL going to show THEM!!" motivation.
    Maybe a live feed from each cell so we can all watch them go stark raving mad?

    But I know what you're saying. Its just that in my cosmology execution is an "easy out".
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Absolutely not a random act. It let's the base know he hasn't forgotten their concerns.
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    The tweet was made by a "rogue intern" whose identity "will not be released due to privacy concerns" but who "is no longer associated with Mr. Trump".

    Right?
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually don't believe in the death penalty for heinous acts.

    I would prefer they get life without parole in a 4x8 cell without a window. No TV no books. Nothing. Sit there and think about what you did as you go slowly insane.

    THAT would be a ****ing deterrent.
    I don't believe in treating mass murderers in the same manner we treat a gas station robber. There needs to be harsh punishment for hate crimes. Nobody has given those 49 people a choice, their lives were snuffed out in an instant. This is just too horrible to be punished by a life sentence in a prison cell. That sort of sentence will not deter anyone who wants to copycat that crime.

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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    I don't believe in treating mass murderers in the same manner we treat a gas station robber. There needs to be harsh punishment for hate crimes. Nobody has given those 49 people a choice, their lives were snuffed out in an instant. This is just too horrible to be punished by a life sentence in a prison cell. That sort of sentence will not deter anyone who wants to copycat that crime.
    Actually, what I propose is officially considered "cruel and unusual" while execution is not. Leads to insanity. No human contact, no "enrichment", no exercise.

    Hell, I think the victims or their families should determine the sentence and the convicting jury decides if it fits the crime. If they want the perpetrator drawn and quartered and the jury agrees then bring on the horses!

    I suspect that the prospect of being burned alive or slowly flayed would indeed serve to deter some folks.
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    As i said in the other thread, this can't be blamed on Trump alone, but people of that mindset are cut from the same cloth.

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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    So, once again Trump shows he is who we think he is and links to crap like this and it doesn't bother his cult.

    Yet the right wingers were apoplectic when Obama wore a tan suit...
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    Re: New Zealand shooting: Trump tweets link to Islamophobic website ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongidig View Post
    You guy's (sic) are more concerned about a Trump Tweet than the fact that 49 people have lost there (sic) lives.

    Get a life!
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