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Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

Doc91478 said:
It only matters when white guys are doing the killing. Christians' lives seem to be of very little consequence to the MSM (Muslim Supporting Media). Meanwhile little to no news or angst about the following:

ICYMI: 120 Christians Slaughtered By Muslim Herders In Nigeria – MEDIA SILENT
ICYMI: 120 Christians Slaughtered By Muslim Herders In Nigeria - MEDIA SILENT
By Brock Simmons ~~ March 15, 2019 ~~ As media outlets across the world bring you the minute-by-minute updates of the Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand, those same outlets have been mostly silent on the recent mass slaughter of Christians in Nigeria by Muslim herdsmen. Those attacks have resulted in 120 dead and 140 homes burned to the ground.
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Here's the thing; local terror will always attract more interest than terror that happens in the third-world. It hits people harder since it could've been them that died. I don't blame the media for not reporting terror in Africa or the ME as extensively, but I certainly do blame them for pretending it doesn't happen. The entire response to the Christchurch incident is one of absolute disbelief that Muslims of all people would be targeted...like who could possibly hate the most notoriously violent and oppressive religion in history? Say what you will, but Christians are slaughtered on a daily basis around the world by fanatic Muslims. It's not hard to imagine there would be fanatics on the other side.

The media clearly only has a problem when white people terrorize. They weren't nearly this noisy when a bomber blew up a hall full of children or rammed a car into crowds.
 
Crusader13 said:
Here's the thing; local terror will always attract more interest than terror that happens in the third-world. It hits people harder since it could've been them that died. I don't blame the media for not reporting terror in Africa or the ME as extensively, but I certainly do blame them for pretending it doesn't happen. The entire response to the Christchurch incident is one of absolute disbelief that Muslims of all people would be targeted...like who could possibly hate the most notoriously violent and oppressive religion in history? Say what you will, but Christians are slaughtered on a daily basis around the world by fanatic Muslims. It's not hard to imagine there would be fanatics on the other side.

The media clearly only has a problem when white people terrorize. They weren't nearly this noisy when a bomber blew up a hall full of children or rammed a car into crowds.
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You say that as though you think Christians are saints. Chritians killed far more Jews in 4 years than Muslims have in 1500.
 
trixare4kids said:
You're presumably an adult, right? What if someone told you to jump off a cliff? Whose fault would it be? You're seriously going to blame the person who inspired you to jump should you live and sustain crippling injuries?
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I would if someone lied to you by saying a lion was hot on your ass, and shows you a hologram of one while playing a loop of it roaring.
 
Crusader13 said:
Here's the thing; local terror will always attract more interest than terror that happens in the third-world. It hits people harder since it could've been them that died. I don't blame the media for not reporting terror in Africa or the ME as extensively, but I certainly do blame them for pretending it doesn't happen. The entire response to the Christchurch incident is one of absolute disbelief that Muslims of all people would be targeted...like who could possibly hate the most notoriously violent and oppressive religion in history? Say what you will, but Christians are slaughtered on a daily basis around the world by fanatic Muslims. It's not hard to imagine there would be fanatics on the other side.

The media clearly only has a problem when white people terrorize. They weren't nearly this noisy when a bomber blew up a hall full of children or rammed a car into crowds.
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That's an objective lie. Both of those terrorist attacks, and basically all terrorist attacks are televised and reported on by every news agency for weeks. Islamic terrorism is the only kind of terrorism people will talk about, this will be quickly forgotten.
 
Nickyjo said:
What did he do that was so evil? He hated good people? Coulda fooled me. What laws did he break? As I understand it, he helped integrate the Kodak Corp in Rochester and he organized white working class people in Chicago to better their lives. A friend of mine went to the organizing school he set up and did great things in St. Louis with poor people. One of Alinsky’s students, Fred Ross, “organized” Cesar Chavez, who helped thousands of farm workers. He was a strategist. Back in my organizing days I used his tactics successfully, as have the Tea Party more recently. What’s not to like?
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He’s Jewish. That’s all they need.
 
JustHanging said:
This guy belongs to the group Trump publicly stated contains some "very fine people."

If you support Trump, a man who publicly defends the KKK and Neo Nazis, of course you're going to accused of being part of the problem of White Nationalism. What the hell did you expect?
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Critical thinking.
 
calamity said:
You say that as though you think Christians are saints. Chritians killed far more Jews in 4 years than Muslims have in 1500.
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Nazis weren't Christians.
 
ClaraD said:
He wasn't a member of the KKK after 1952, he actually says he left in 1948 and no longer paid dues. The guy has been dead for 9 years and said that his membership in that and participation in segregation was the biggest mistake of his life.
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That makes it all ok then? So people can change and shouldn't be judged by something they did many years ago?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
That's an objective lie. Both of those terrorist attacks, and basically all terrorist attacks are televised and reported on by every news agency for weeks. Islamic terrorism is the only kind of terrorism people will talk about, this will be quickly forgotten.
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What I meant was that the media is generally very composed when an Islamic terror attack takes place. Very neutral, careful with their wording, leaving the motives or religion/race of the attacker out of it.

The last 24 hours reporting on Christchurch have just been the words "right-wing white man" on repeat.
 
Mass killings has turned into entertainment. If it happened in America, it would have been a 72 hour breaking news story in America. Since it happened in New Zealand, it is a story that will be around for decades.
 
Crusader13 said:
Nazis weren't Christians.
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Clearly some would have been. If we're talking about Hitler specifically, then his comments on the matter are contradictory.
 
Doc91478 said:
It only matters when white guys are doing the killing. Christians' lives seem to be of very little consequence to the MSM (Muslim Supporting Media). Meanwhile little to no news or angst about the following:

ICYMI: 120 Christians Slaughtered By Muslim Herders In Nigeria – MEDIA SILENT
ICYMI: 120 Christians Slaughtered By Muslim Herders In Nigeria - MEDIA SILENT
By Brock Simmons ~~ March 15, 2019 ~~ As media outlets across the world bring you the minute-by-minute updates of the Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand, those same outlets have been mostly silent on the recent mass slaughter of Christians in Nigeria by Muslim herdsmen. Those attacks have resulted in 120 dead and 140 homes burned to the ground.
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What you actually see is the general indifference of the western world regarding Africa. A few deaths in Europe or in western countries are always covered more extensively than the same amount of casualties in Africa regardless of the perpetrator. AIDS, and famine have killed thousands of people there and for the most part it does not trigger any outrage in the west. People who try to escape from genocides, are actually treated as criminals by the "cultured" westerners. Do not try to pretend that you give a s*** about these people when you refuse to accept African immigrants! And just like with the Middle East, terrorist groups there kill not only christians but anybody who resists their plans.
 
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Crusader13 said:
Nazis weren't Christians.
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They were. Germany was 67% protestant, 33% Catholic. Antisemitism was rife.

"...Some Nazis, such as Hans Kerrl, who served as Hitler's Minister for Church Affairs pushed for "Positive Christianity", which was a uniquely Nazi form which rejected its Jewish origins and the Old Testament, and portrayed "true" Christianity as a fight against Jews, with Jesus depicted as an Aryan...."

"...[FONT=&quot]In 1928 Bishop [/FONT]Otto Dibelius[FONT=&quot] wrote about the "solution" to the "Jewish Problem". He argued that all Jewish immigration from eastern Europe should be prohibited. As soon as this prohibition takes effect, the decline of Jewry would set in. "The number of children of the Jewish families is small. The process of dying out occurs surprisingly rapidly." It has been claimed by one historian that Bishop Dibelius' anti-semitic sentiments were "well nigh representative of German Christendom" at the time... 2[/FONT]
 
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marke said:
The shooter praised communist China and hated American conservatism. You cannot link him to republicans in America. That would be stupid.
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i saw nothing that concluded that the shooter hated American conservatism. What I did read is that he hailed Trump as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose." This is undeniable. Both Trump and the shooter used the term "invasion" to describe migrants.

If the shooter praised communist China and hated American conservatism provide a citation.
 
Nickyjo said:
What did he do that was so evil? He hated good people? Coulda fooled me. What laws did he break? As I understand it, he helped integrate the Kodak Corp in Rochester and he organized white working class people in Chicago to better their lives. A friend of mine went to the organizing school he set up and did great things in St. Louis with poor people. One of Alinsky’s students, Fred Ross, “organized” Cesar Chavez, who helped thousands of farm workers. He was a strategist. Back in my organizing days I used his tactics successfully, as have the Tea Party more recently. What’s not to like?
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If you read his Rules for Radicals and see nothing wrong with it and him then you are not likely to ever see good in any republican or conservative principle of good government.
 
HumblePi said:
I ignore nothing, I know statistics. According to ACL statistics, in 2018, in the United States, 78% of U.S. terrorism killings were done by white supremacists. In that same year in the U.S. 2% of terrorism killings were done by Islamist terrorists.
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What's an ACL? Anterior Cruciate Ligament? Austin City Limits?
 
trixare4kids said:
You're presumably an adult, right? What if someone told you to jump off a cliff? Whose fault would it be? You're seriously going to blame the person who inspired you to jump should you live and sustain crippling injuries?
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I would not blame them in that scenario. I would blame myself and take responsibility for my own actions. If this happened to you, however, not only would I view you as responsible for your own actions, I would also view the person who deliberately talked you into it as playing a role in your decision and would call them out accordingly, because encouraging someone to engage in dangerous behavior is hideously immoral, even if the decision to actually do so was yours. If that person refused to accept social and moral responsibility for the role they played in your injury, then I would not hesitate to judge them as an immature, irresponsible coward.
 
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lwf said:
Of course the killer is to blame. But we all know that no decision is made in a vacuum. I don't think you really believe this. Do you blame ISIS as a whole for the actions of a lone wolf suicide bomber? What about Michelle Carter who talked her boyfriend into suicide? You know responsibility is shared among all who were involved, including those who inspired it. Yes, the person who commits a horrible act bears the legal responsibility and deserves the lion's share of the blame. But those who inspire him to do so through irresponsible rhetoric and hatred ABSOLUTELY share in the responsibility for it and deserve to be called out for the role they played in the carnage. And those who refuse to take responsibility for their words are the worst kinds of cowards.
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I don't ever post insincerely and wouldn't post what I don't believe.

Don't try to compare what one young woman did, and she absolutely did goad her very vulnerable friend, with someone who commits mass murder.
 
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