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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    I have a link to the full manifesto that can clear up lots of this blame game. Anyone know if it has been posted here? Anyone think i should post it in a seperate thread?

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Without any facetiousness, my first two thoughts were: (1) Wait, New Zealand?? And (2) where the Hell did someone get a gun in New Zealand to commit a mass-shooting with?
    New Zealand has some fairly stringent gun laws. It is obvious that those gun laws did not stop this deranged barbarian from mass murder. Gun laws never eliminate threats of gun violence, unless the disarming of the populace is mandated and enforced by a brutal regime supported by heavily armed loyal regime soldiers.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    This is just cowardice. Of course the killer is to blame. But we all know that no decision is made in a vacuum. I don't think you really believe this. Do you blame ISIS as a whole for the actions of a lone wolf suicide bomber? What about Michelle Carter who talked her boyfriend into suicide? You know responsibility is shared among all who were involved, including those who inspired it. Yes, the person who commits a horrible act bears the legal responsibility and deserves the lion's share of the blame. But those who inspire him to do so through irresponsible rhetoric and hatred ABSOLUTELY share in the responsibility for it and deserve to be called out for the role they played in the carnage. And those who refuse to take responsibility for their words are the worst kinds of cowards.
    You're presumably an adult, right? What if someone told you to jump off a cliff? Whose fault would it be? You're seriously going to blame the person who inspired you to jump should you live and sustain crippling injuries?

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin4 View Post
    Seems you angry white men are in denial...Your guy is the terrorist in New Zealand
    It is obvious you have not read the shooters manifesto and just seek to smear the right with this. Had you read it, you would realize your error. Nice assumptions, angry black guy.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you praise a gun ban in preventing crime yet you are against gun bans?

    I have posted at least 100 times on this board that regulations preventing dangerous or reckless use of firearms are perfectly legitimate.
    The hell?

    Their gun ban worked. All statisical data confirms that. There is simply no question about this.

    Our situation is not so easy here, in this country,

    They are not comparable. If you want to compare actual data, I'm game.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyCock View Post
    I have a link to the full manifesto that can clear up lots of this blame game. Anyone know if it has been posted here? Anyone think i should post it in a seperate thread?
    post it here

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    post it here
    Here it is but i am going to make a thread on it. Those trying to pin the tail on the right, will bury this link.

    Christchurch Mosque shooter Brenton Tarrant’s full manifesto

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyCock View Post
    How boring, you excuse violence inspired by leftist (notice you ignored the ball field shooter, bike lock attack and countless other acts of political violence, remember this? ) 2017 Chicago torture incident - Wikipedia
    2017 Chicago torture incident - Wikipedia
    In January 2017, a white mentally disabled youth in a suburb of Chicago, Illinois, was filmed ... The attackers are heard shouting "**** Trump" and "**** white people" in ... Additional charges, such as kidnapping, were dropped as part of her plea deal. .... "Woman pleads guilty to hate crime in beating of disabled teen live on ...

    (GRAPHIC) Full Video: Man Tortured for Being White in Chicago ...
    YouTube
    Jan 5, 2017 - Disturbing video of a 18 year old special needs man being tortured by ... being tortured for being white and for being a Donald Trump supporter.


    imagine if THAT was white Trump supporters and a black teen, it would STILL be front page news.
    I ignore nothing, I know statistics. According to ACL statistics, in 2018, in the United States, 78% of U.S. terrorism killings were done by white supremacists. In that same year in the U.S. 2% of terrorism killings were done by Islamist terrorists.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    This is coming from a guy who has spewed lie after lie after lie, while trying to use the deaths of innocents to advance his hate filled attacks on whites, gun ownership and Trump?

    Spare me the sanctimonious hypocrisy
    Yeah, what's with his ongoing hatred of WHITE people who post to this forum?
    Maybe he is a racist and a person of color?

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    I ignore nothing, I know statistics. According to ACL statistics, in 2018, in the United States, 78% of U.S. terrorism killings were done by white supremacists. In that same year in the U.S. 2% of terrorism killings were done by Islamist terrorists.
    US Gov. Accountability office says something else... I know who I am going to believe.

    Violent extremism is generally defined as supporting or committing violent acts to achieve political, ideological, religious or social goals, said an April 2017 report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

    Perpetrators of violent extremism include white supremacists; anti-government groups; groups with extreme views on abortion, animal rights, the environment or federal ownership of public lands; and radical Islamist entities, such as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

    The 9/11 terrorist attacks resulted in the largest number of deaths in the United States caused by violent extremism, the GAO report said. About 3,000 people were killed in the attacks.

    Since then — from Sept. 12, 2001, to Dec. 31, 2016 — there have been 85 attacks in the country by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths. GAO reported citing data from the U.S. Extremist Crime Database.

    Of those 225 deaths:

    • 106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;

    • 119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;
    A look at the data on domestic terrorism and who’s behind it | PolitiFact

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