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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Comparing the massacre of 60 innocent Human beings to saying mean things about Donald Trump is ****ing idiotic. You’re dismissed.
    The hatred of Trump is beyond name calling. It's gotten to the point where it's pathological.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    The hatred of Trump is beyond name calling. It's gotten to the point where it's pathological.
    Yeah? how many Trump supporters have been victims of mass murder? Your victim card is played out, I’m taking it away, you can collect it after class.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    I'd support that, as long as we could do the same with Islamic terrorists.

    Alas, our governments do not burn Muslim terrorists alive. They give them free housing and welfare when they return from training with ISIS until they carry out their attack.
    Thats complete bollocks, they send them to prison for long term or try and stop them returning if they possibly can.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    In a thread where the murderers are right wing nuts, you figure out how to make Trump supporters the victims.
    For some inexplicable reason, before I got disgusted and changed the channel to the BBC, I watched CNN's Don Lemon connecting a dot between the massacre in Christchurch and Trump. Even before the blood on the pavement had dried, he had a veritable parade of guests piling in on the idea that somehow this was all Trump's fault.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Nothing is sacrificed. Immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than the natural born. Your culture is not lost. The culture of the nation is not yours to preserve at all, and never was.
    First, not all immigrant groups commit crime at the same rate. Clearly South-east Asian and European immigrants commit lower than average crime than the average of natural borns (which is disproportionally caused by blacks and Hispanics).

    Second, while it is unclear how high a rate of crime there is among legal Hispanic immigrants, it is clearer that illegal immigrants do commit higher rates of crime. Moreover, it is also clear that the 2nd generation of Hispanic immigrants commit up to 8 times the rate of their parents.

    Last, if they weren't in the US then thousands of dead individuals would still be alive - regardless of actual rates.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Yeah? how many Trump supporters have been victims of mass murder? Your victim card is played out, I’m taking it away, you can collect it after class.
    Christians are murdered every day, often in mass, by radical Muslims and we hear nary a peep about it from the left-wing U.S. media. E.g., a couple of weeks ago...

    At Least 32 Christians killed as mob burns homes, church in Nigeria
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    I've seen the video. Truly shocking and horrific. Plenty of sites are taking it down but it is still available.

    Frankly, as an atheist, I am tempted to believe there is a hell for these people to burn in for all eternity. Alas.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    I'd support that, as long as we could do the same with Islamic terrorists.

    Alas, our governments do not burn Muslim terrorists alive. They give them free housing and welfare when they return from training with ISIS until they carry out their attack.
    Your opinions are vile and repugnant and are repudiated thoroughly. Disgusting.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Christians are murdered every day, often in mass, by radical Muslims and we hear nary a peep about it from the left-wing U.S. media. E.g., a couple of weeks ago...

    At Least 32 Christians killed as mob burns homes, church in Nigeria
    What do all Christians have to do with Trump supporters? you think all Christians are Trump supporters? Nigerian Trump supporters? You’re double dismissed.
    Last edited by HenryChinaski; 03-15-19 at 07:57 PM.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    For some inexplicable reason, before I got disgusted and changed the channel to the BBC, I watched CNN's Don Lemon connecting a dot between the massacre in Christchurch and Trump. Even before the blood on the pavement had dried, he had a veritable parade of guests piling in on the idea that somehow this was all Trump's fault.
    At it's very essence, yes it was. Today, once again, Trump referred to the immigration at the southern border as an 'invasion'. These is the exact words that the shooter in New Zealand used and the exact words the shooter at the Tree of Life synagogue used.

    There's a great contrast between how the New Zealand Prime Minister responded to this terrorist attack and Trump's response. The moral clarity with which she spoke by clearly stating, "these white supremacists, this extremism - does not belong here. They are not our people and they do not belong anywhere in the world." Trump had the opportunity to make a firm, unflinching distinction between evil and good, and to take some affirmative actions based on those distinctions. He failed to come even close to that depth of conviction. His administration has done nothing more than turn a blind eye to growing domestic terrorism. The U.S. Govt has even gotten completely rid of any grants intended to be used to combat white nationalist terrorism.

    The Anti-Defamation League tracks white supremacist incidents, they say there's been a 182% increase in those incidents from 2017 to 2018. How can Trump denounce these acts of terror as simply "a small group of deranged people", it's just ludicrous. One massive terrorist attack on Muslims in New Zealand and BOOM - their gun laws are going to change immediately. Trump's tweet to the Prime Minister of New Zealand, "my warmest sympathy and good wishes goes out to the people of New Zealand" is not nearly enough. That's what you say when someone's grandpa died at 92. Trump had a duty as president of the United States to soundly denounce white nationalism in no uncertain terms and make it clear that there's no place for it here. 'Warm sympathy and good wishes' is pointless, it changes nothing.

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