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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    They were all white European ethnics mostly all Christian who were able to blend in to build the USA
    into the greatest economic & military power in the world a half a century before your 'Age of Diversity'
    Jews were considered too shifty and greedy and some believed they would use their power through the banks to bring down the country.
    Nowadays, right-wing nuts believe Jews control the media to spread 'left-wing propaganda.'

    The Irish were considered too violent, drunk, and unsophisticated to adapt to American life.

    The Italians (along with most Southern Europeans) were considered lazy, dumb, violent and indebted to the pope

    Catholics were considered loyal to the pope and not to country. This stereotype was a major point used against JFK during his run for president.

    The Chinese (who are not 'white Europeans', btw) were considered drug addicts and a threat to white native labor (sound familiar?)

    They were all 'rattlesnakes' to the nativists.

    Pretend if you wish that since then the projection of US dominance has not tended downward.
    Empires always overreach and inevitably fall, as a result. Are you going to blame the White Europeans for bringing down the Roman Empire?


    The Chinese! why bring them up?
    Umm, why not? Chinese immigrants were discriminated to the point a federal law was passed to stop their immigration.
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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    I agree. That’s why we should immediately deport everyone who thinks like you and this gang of thugs do. After all, you don’t put the rattlesnake in the crip with the baby.
    So my old pal Tiger begins to chime in, I recall your evaluattions on the events of the 1860’s which were
    decisively more deficient than AOC’s take on modern day economics & that’s saying something.
    Move along!

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    From what I read only one was a confirmed Aussie. How sure are you that none of the attackers are native Kiwis?
    I heard it was the main guy. More coming out today. 2 arrested. One charged with murder due in court today.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I'm sorry Bodi. My thoughts are with you. Just awful.

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    Thnx. I live on the North Island in a very rural area. Day is starting. 8am. News remained stable overnight.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Jews were considered too shifty and greedy and some believed they would use their power through the banks to bring down the country.
    Nowadays, right-wing nuts believe Jews control the media to spread 'left-wing propaganda.'

    The Irish were considered too violent, drunk, and unsophisticated to adapt to American life.

    The Italians (along with most Southern Europeans) were considered lazy, dumb, violent and indebted to the pope

    Catholics were considered loyal to the pope and not to country. This stereotype was a major point used against JFK during his run for president.

    The Chinese (who are not 'white Europeans', btw) were considered drug addicts and a threat to white native labor (sound familiar?)

    They were all 'rattlesnakes' to the nativists.



    Empires always overreach and inevitably fall, as a result. Are you going to blame the White Europeans for bringing down the Roman Empire?




    Umm, why not? Chinese immigrants were discriminated to the point a federal law was passed to stop their immigration.
    Read my post you replied to again. Honestly I don’t know what your point is. If you are attempting to to contradict my post you’ve
    made a very poor unskillful attempt.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I thought about you when I turned on the national news this morning and it was covering this story, and only this story. There is no doubt you or people you know will know people involved in this terrible, heartbreaking story.

    I can't imagine the pain of New Zealand, the entire community of Christchurch, the first responders and medical staff, and the families of the victims are experiencing today. I stand with you all.

    May these poor people rest in peace. What an awful thing.
    Thnx.

    I feel horrible for the little 4-year old in critical. This A-hole shot children too...

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Thnx. I live on the North Island in a very rural area. Day is starting. 8am. News remained stable overnight.
    My thoughts are with you and all New Zealanders. This kind of thing takes its toll on the psyche of many; 9/11 changed a lot for me as a New Yorker. The bright side of this is you often get to see the good side of humanity as people join together to express their outrage at this kind of barbarity. I hope this is a sobering reminder to the peddlers of divisive rhetoric; the debasing of others can inspire already twisted people to the breaking point.

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Neither did Americans.
    I have a feeling ralphcdp is anti US/UK.
    Another Russian troll no doubt
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Thnx. I live on the North Island in a very rural area. Day is starting. 8am. News remained stable overnight.
    Thoughts with you and your country. Spent the happiest 3 months of my life there.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Many Dead in New Zealand Mosque Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I've no idea NZ's Muslim population, but don't you think the terrorists specifically chose to target a couple Mosques full of worshipers because they knew NZ is a gun free country? Has anyone raised the question as to how the perpetrators got their guns? Good thing a Muslim citizen was armed, (illegally?) and was able to stop at least one of these armed maniacs before there were even more casualties.
    NZ is not gun free. You can get a gun with a license. There are gun shops. There are also weapons on the black market, given that known criminals get them too.

    New Zealand mosque shootings: New Zealand’s gun control laws, explained - Vox

    It's also a myth the NZ police are unarmed. They don't normally carry them on their belts but almost all patrols are by car and IIRC every squad car carries a Glock pistol in the front and an AR-15 in the trunk. So response times are slower, but they have them when they need them.

    It also hasn't had a mass shooting in three decades. And hardly had any before that.

    If massacres happened every week there might be some cause to call it a gun-related problem but till more facts come out that doesn't seem to be the issue. Given that NZ has managed almost 30 years without a mass shooting goes some way to showing that it does not have a gun problem. A quick internet search will show there is some gun crime - robberies and incidents involving the police have gone up - but then crime in general has due to its crystal meth problem (locally referred to as 'P' for pure). But angry men don't storm into workplaces, schools and houses of worship every other week.

    Also, does the NRA, which espouses open gun ownership for all really want to see the Muslims arming themselves to protect their mosques? I think given the right-wing mindset about race and religion, that might give them some pause.
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