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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Every declared national emergency has been where Congress has passed a budget not including the funds and with Congress not voting to allocate the funds. ALL declared "national emergencies" have been presidents acting specifically outside of how Congress voted on budgets.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    Holy ****balls batman, did you really just ask why do questions regard to the reliability of polls?

    Seriously? You can't think of any scenario where bad poll questions skew data?

    When Wording Skews Results in Polls - WSJ

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    Yes, got it, the wording matters, but the results of the poll still tell you how the surveyed population answer bad/misleading/good/bad/indifferent questions. That's just rephrasing exactly what I said above...

    You dismissed a poll. if you have a concern about the wording, tell us why? If you can't point to any problem with the wording, then you just don't like the results and so are dismissing what you don't like, what doesn't fit your preferred narrative, not what is illegitimate.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Yep, if you're not licking Trump's feet you're a RINO.
    Kind of ironic (and funny) that a former Democrat and Clinton supporter like Donald Trump has become the face of American Conservatism, and ANYONE in the GOP who dares to oppose him is automatically dubbed a "RINO". We live in some weird times.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Every declared national emergency has been where Congress has passed a budget not including the funds and with Congress not voting to allocate the funds. ALL declared "national emergencies" have been presidents acting specifically outside of how Congress voted on budgets.
    So now you are an expert on every national emergency that has ever taken place.
    Fascinating.
    Please provide actual facts to prove your assertions.
    We'll wait patiently.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I don’t know of any smear campaigns like that.


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    Because you fell for them.

    Weird, you got to proclaim why people voted for Trump and also why people voted for Democrats. When I do the same, you object. Interesting.

    No wait, the other thing. Tedious.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by PIPEWRENCH View Post
    I like the video. I used to watch them back in the late 70's. They would send a few threw to tie up the 1 border patrol and as soon as he took them in for processing a 100 or more easily would just walk right into our country. I was an MP so as long as they didn't come onto our post all I could do is watch them break the law. The federal government paid me to sit and watch illegal aliens enter our country. It really makes you feel good when you are soldier and a police officer and you have to watch and have orders to do nothing as they break our laws. I bet they still do it today. Nobody but our government would waste so much money and resources.
    Uhh yeah it is absolutely imperative that soldiers not be used in a law enforcement capacity. That's like "survival of the republic" level ****, dude.
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Republicans need to think more like Democrats in that they should be willing to use all the resources they have to achieve what republican voters have asked for. The Republican politicians are more worried about themselves than the voters. As long as Trumps emergency declaration can pass muster in the courts, which many constitutional scholars seem to think it will, Republican congressmen should support it. I think when the dust clears we will eventually find some of our republican congressmen were never Trumpers and can't stand that a non politician is President.
    I can't understand why Republicans are always so ready to work with Democrats, because it doesn't happen the other way around.

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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Every declared national emergency has been where Congress has passed a budget not including the funds and with Congress not voting to allocate the funds. ALL declared "national emergencies" have been presidents acting specifically outside of how Congress voted on budgets.
    The majority of "national emergency" declarations had nothing to do with allocating federal funds, instead they seized and/or froze assets belonging to governments or individuals accused of crimes.

    National Emergencies declared by presidents since Carter
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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Does not matter who the judge is, as soon as they here the words, I didn't.need to do this I just wanted it done faster, case closed.

    You can t declare anything you want to an emergency just because you didn't get your way...
    It does matter and I guarantee whoever files suit will make sure that they find a liberal judge to hear the case. Normally, whatever Trump said at a press conference should have nothing to do with the law. But a lib judge will not follow the law and just make it as he/she goes, as they’ve done before.


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    Re: Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because you fell for them.

    Weird, you got to proclaim why people voted for Trump and also why people voted for Democrats. When I do the same, you object. Interesting.

    No wait, the other thing. Tedious.
    Go ahead and detail the smear campaign that Trump launched against Muslims. I said I don't know of one, so let's see it.
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