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Senate rejects Trump border emergency as Republicans defect

gulfman said:
This sends a clear message to 12 Republicans who won't be reelected
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Voters have short memories. Romney will become the leader of the Anti-Trump pro-Democrats Republicans.
 
Sabre said:
I view it as 12 RINO's lacked the spine to support their President. I will give the dems credit for one thing, no matter how rotten their officials are they stand behind them to keep their party intact.
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They weren't elected to support the President. They were elected to represent their Constituents.
 
NWRatCon said:
8 more is all they need in the Senate, and there are two that are already regretting not voting for the resolution. The House, though, is a harder haul, as they need 30 more. Is or possible? Yes, though not likely. I've had a chance to communicate with at least one Soldier on the border (deliberately being non-specific) who described the ridiculousness of their task. There were not enough areas to string concertina wire, so the ended up restringing the same length of fence...SIX TIMES. Yeah, that's a thoughtful use of resources.
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Been there done that...
 
Sabre said:
I view it as 12 RINO's lacked the spine to support their President. I will give the dems credit for one thing, no matter how rotten their officials are they stand behind them to keep their party intact.
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They are not there to support their president, they are there to represent their constituents!!!

Miss that class in school???
 
joko104 said:
Interesting that both Houses of Congress just voted that THEY passed unconstitutional legislation granting the President Emergency power - something they apparently didn't realize with President Obama and President Bush used it.

So, should everyone in Congress who voted for the Emergency Powers Act be impeached and removed for defying the US Constitution when they passed that law?
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That is not what they voted on. The National Emergencies Act even provides for this process of Congressional disapproval of an emergency declaration.
 
Sabre said:
Just to be sure of what you are alluding: If you support your President are automatically a racist?
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That is exactly what the Liberals think. If you don't agree with them your a racist.
 
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Sabre said:
I view it as 12 RINO's lacked the spine to support their President.
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I knew it wouldn't be long before a Trumper labeled the 12 as RINO's.

As predictable as Trumps idiocy.
 
tres borrachos said:
Ayep. This will be held up the courts forever.

Trump Fan Nation will be screaming about those 12 RINOs any second now.
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This is just as good for TRump.

He is better off not getting his wall and keeping the cult screaming for it. The poor dears, everyone is against them. Even some of their own.
 
There are 16 state Attorney's General suing Trump regarding his national emergency.

This Congressional result can now be an exhibit of the plaintiff's court brief.
 
holbritter said:
I wasn't asked. Were you?
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I was polled twice the last 2 weeks. I don't know if this was one of them that polled me. After a while they all seem to be the same as the last one.

I was asked about the declaration in both polls.
 
GDViking said:
They are not there to support their president, they are there to represent their constituents!!!

Miss that class in school???
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Love the way Libs have to work a slight into all the responses the conservative's post. No, did not miss a thing, I was in school when these things were actually taught.

Now for you and others I was responding to the post that said this: I didn't think 12 conservatives had the spine to do the right thing, and take a stand against the moronic Racist in Chief.

It addressed the Chief, i.e., President, directly so I responded in kind referring to the president in my post - not the 3 branches of government or constituents but in direct comment on the previous post. I claim only responsibility for what I write, not for what you think was written.
 
tres borrachos said:
They weren't elected to support the President. They were elected to represent their Constituents.
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Wow I had not read down to your post before I wrote mine.

Sorry I was not trying to plagiarize you...
 
Roadvirus said:
And how many of these idiots have seen what's been going on at the border lately?
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They're all members of Congress and many of them, from both parties, have been to the southern border. Nine congressional representatives serve the districts that line the 2,000-mile southern border. They are men, women, freshman politicians and Washington veterans. The Democrats among them span liberal ideologies, while one of them is a Republican. But they all have one thing in common: each is against Trump's border wall.

These are specifically Congressional representatives from border districts. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez, a Democrat and one of the lawmakers along the southern border who voted against funding the wall said "It's a 4th-century solution to a 21st century problem." And, he's right. Walls are archaic method of border security and in modern times technology has replaced the need for physical walls that are more expensive and less effective. During a private dinner with Trump last year, the congressman suggested a "virtual border wall," one that would use technology and existing military surveillance equipment currently not in use. But Trump wasn't interested in non-physical alternatives. He wants the physical wall to make his base say 'yay! we got a real wall'. His 'crisis' and 'national emergency' are bogus.

Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican who represents more of the southern border than any other member of Congress, was one of a handful of Republicans to side with Democrats last on the funding bill. Hurd, who is the only black Republican in the 116th House of Representatives, won a second term in Congress during the midterms despite campaigning against the wall. Congressman Hurd is a former undercover CIA agent and had introduced another idea: legislation for a "smart border wall," a technology-focused initiative that he claimed would cost less than $1 billion.

But nope, even though there's better solutions that would be more effective and less costly, Trump and his base just 'have' to see a physical wall. Remember when everyone had a fenced in yard to keep their dog from roaming? Nobody does that anymore, it's too expensive. So they use invisible fencing. It's technology that has improved the way people keep dogs in their yards without the costly expense of a physical barrier. Unfortunately, I have to sometimes go back to this simplistic way of explaining logic to conservatives, they just can't comprehend the whole concept of security without costly physical barriers.
 
I'd love to be a fly on the Oval Office wall right now. Someone is getting an ass chewing.

You know Trump never accepts responsibility for a defeat.
 
Sabre said:
Love the way Libs have to work a slight into all the responses the conservative's post. No, did not miss a thing, I was in school when these things were actually taught.

Now for you and others I was responding to the post that said this: I didn't think 12 conservatives had the spine to do the right thing, and take a stand against the moronic Racist in Chief.

It addressed the Chief, i.e., President, directly so I responded in kind referring to the president in my post - not the 3 branches of government or constituents but in direct comment on the previous post. I claim only responsibility for what I write, not for what you think was written.
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You clearly wrote that you thought that the senators listed did not live up to your perceived responsibilities...
 
Rogue Valley said:
I'd love to be a fly on the Oval Office wall right now. Someone is getting an ass chewing.

You know Trump never accepts responsibility for a defeat.
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Hopefully it's Stephen Miller getting an ass chewing. That man is just a troll.

He'll probably blame this on Pence, McConnell, Romney, Pelosi, Schumer, my cat, and Hillary.
 
HumblePi said:
They're all members of Congress and many of them, from both parties, have been to the southern border. Nine congressional representatives serve the districts that line the 2,000-mile southern border. They are men, women, freshman politicians and Washington veterans. The Democrats among them span liberal ideologies, while one of them is a Republican. But they all have one thing in common: each is against Trump's border wall.

These are specifically Congressional representatives from border districts. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez, a Democrat and one of the lawmakers along the southern border who voted against funding the wall said "It's a 4th-century solution to a 21st century problem." And, he's right. Walls are archaic method of border security and in modern times technology has replaced the need for physical walls that are more expensive and less effective. During a private dinner with Trump last year, the congressman suggested a "virtual border wall," one that would use technology and existing military surveillance equipment currently not in use. But Trump wasn't interested in non-physical alternatives. He wants the physical wall to make his base say 'yay! we got a real wall'. His 'crisis' and 'national emergency' are bogus.

Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican who represents more of the southern border than any other member of Congress, was one of a handful of Republicans to side with Democrats last on the funding bill. Hurd, who is the only black Republican in the 116th House of Representatives, won a second term in Congress during the midterms despite campaigning against the wall. Congressman Hurd is a former undercover CIA agent and had introduced another idea: legislation for a "smart border wall," a technology-focused initiative that he claimed would cost less than $1 billion.

But nope, even though there's better solutions that would be more effective and less costly, Trump and his base just 'have' to see a physical wall. Remember when everyone had a fenced in yard to keep their dog from roaming? Nobody does that anymore, it's too expensive. So they use invisible fencing. It's technology that has improved the way people keep dogs in their yards without the costly expense of a physical barrier. Unfortunately, I have to sometimes go back to this simplistic way of explaining logic to conservative, they just can't comprehend the whole concept of security without costly physical barriers.
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They should leave this to the experts and the experts say barriers are needed. A barrier is need to slow down the flow of illegals crossing out Southern border everyday.
Are you saying you want shock collars on every illegal alien trying to cross the border? That is how an invisible fence works. Gues you don't understand the concept do you. A truly silly response!!!
 
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